Stevie replaced by Sting

[David]

Stevie and Sting. Weren’t there a couple of songs that were allegedly lifted from some Sting tracks? Edge of 17 and Bombay Sapphires?

[bombaysaffires]

She wanted him to sing with her on Bombay... but she says she chickened out. Her record company or managers or whoever also worked with Macy Gray and suggested they use her instead.

Edge of 17 is lifted from Bring on the Night. Listen to the opening guitar and drums....
Waddy even admitted to it once... he said in an interview that he listened to the Police and thought to himself "Gee we really are ripping them off aren't we" and then of course the inevitable walking it back because... someone was upset that he'd said it so he tried to pretend he didn't.

I have never heard any leaked songwriting demos of EO17 so I do have to wonder if she was listening to Bring on the Night and started singing over their music (as she'd done with music by Prince, and Mark Knopfler and Lindsey etc) She's been lucky no one has called her out or sued her (or else they've done a really good job of keeping it quiet). Prince could easily have demanded credit on Stand Back, Lindsey could demand credit on Wild Heart...The Police on Edge.... it does look like she had to credit Mark Knopfler on She Loves Him Still in order to use it....

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

She wanted him to sing with her on Bombay... but she says she chickened out. Her record company or managers or whoever also worked with Macy Gray and suggested they use her instead.

Edge of 17 is lifted from Bring on the Night. Listen to the opening guitar and drums....
Waddy even admitted to it once... he said in an interview that he listened to the Police and thought to himself "Gee we really are ripping them off aren't we" and then of course the inevitable walking it back because... someone was upset that he'd said it so he tried to pretend he didn't.

I have never heard any leaked songwriting demos of EO17 so I do have to wonder if she was listening to Bring on the Night and started singing over their music (as she'd done with music by Prince, and Mark Knopfler and Lindsey etc) She's been lucky no one has called her out or sued her (or else they've done a really good job of keeping it quiet). Prince could easily have demanded credit on Stand Back, Lindsey could demand credit on Wild Heart...The Police on Edge.... it does look like she had to credit Mark Knopfler on She Loves Him Still in order to use it....

There definitely could have been a lawsuit. I wonder if there was a secret payment or The Police did not care.
Waddy was not happy that Stevie led him to rip off the Police (see attached article). She was much more careful on her next album when she was going to rip off Prince but called him.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/stev...-of-seventeen/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz1mEMiNPHQ

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

There definitely could have been a lawsuit. I wonder if there was a secret payment or The Police did not care.
Waddy was not happy that Stevie led him to rip off the Police (see attached article). She was much more careful on her next album when she was going to rip off Prince but called him.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/stev...-of-seventeen/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz1mEMiNPHQ

the 5:40 mark you can hear an early version that, if you ignore her dancing, shows how much they tried to copy the Police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG3uqW7IyhQ

it's also interesting that in the promo for the documentary on session players that Waddy is featured in, the bit they highlight is "his" riff on EO17..... maybe not the best example of his "originality"

[krrrby]

I dunno, I'm not into this tour. From watching all her shows on YouTube when I get a chance, she just looks tired and bored, like she just wants to throw in the towel and retire. Her mojo that had even back in 2014 is just not there anymore. Maybe she's just unhappy having to tour with another name like Billy Joel. She barely sang a duet with him like what 2 or 3 nights then stopped? I remember her tour with Rod and she was pissy during that too especially when Rod messed up her Leather & Lace lyrics and didn't practice.

She needs to do whatever she needs to do to make her happy and put the touring to rest so she can have more energy to do something else.

[krrrby]

Someone mentioned doing one more tour with Mac, but we all know damn well if Lindsey will not be there, it's not going to be FM. And even after all the crap that went down, do I really wanna chunk money down to see 2 people on stage who still hate each other and can't get along and didn't get a chance to do a proper farewell tour with Chris...I dunno.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by krrrby

I dunno, I'm not into this tour. From watching all her shows on YouTube when I get a chance, she just looks tired and bored, like she just wants to throw in the towel and retire. Her mojo that had even back in 2014 is just not there anymore. Maybe she's just unhappy having to tour with another name like Billy Joel. She barely sang a duet with him like what 2 or 3 nights then stopped? I remember her tour with Rod and she was pissy during that too especially when Rod messed up her Leather & Lace lyrics and didn't practice.

She needs to do whatever she needs to do to make her happy and put the touring to rest so she can have more energy to do something else.

WHAT does she have left? Remembering her glory days of 40-50 years ago? I don't know why these people are so afraid to retire.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by krrrby

I dunno, I'm not into this tour. From watching all her shows on YouTube when I get a chance, she just looks tired and bored, like she just wants to throw in the towel and retire.

When I saw the Mac in 2009 they were already several months on the road. She looked not bored but tired (that's why in 2014 I chose one of the first dates). 14 years later, at 75, it's not surprise to get tired faster than in the past. I agree with Homer, there's no reason to fear retirement. And one has to know when it is time.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by krrrby

I dunno, I'm not into this tour. From watching all her shows on YouTube when I get a chance, she just looks tired and bored, like she just wants to throw in the towel and retire. Her mojo that had even back in 2014 is just not there anymore. Maybe she's just unhappy having to tour with another name like Billy Joel. She barely sang a duet with him like what 2 or 3 nights then stopped? I remember her tour with Rod and she was pissy during that too especially when Rod messed up her Leather & Lace lyrics and didn't practice.

She needs to do whatever she needs to do to make her happy and put the touring to rest so she can have more energy to do something else.

SheÂ’s recently said she plains to tour for five more years. Now that the Billy Joel shows end in March (really December since March is a one-off make up date), will she do arena shows and then festivals in the summer?
Her setlists for 2022 and 2023 have taken Stevie two steps back from the advancement she made in the IYD 2011 and 24KG 2016 Tours. Even on the 24KG Tour, I noticed there was energy missing. No high notes in Stand Back, less high notes in Gypsy, slow twirls, the diminished kicks. Compare her energy with Debbie Harry and Mick Jagger who are older.
Again, I say Irving and her team are running her like Elvis with endless touring with unreasonable ticket prices for a concert that is not special and contains two covers.

I liked her singing the ballad with Billy Joel but that was done for one show. I think if stopped because she was too tired after her opening set to wait to come out during his.

I think if she did a show with 8 rarities, people wouldnÂ’t care because they lap up everything she says. And doesnÂ’t Stevie have trouble seeing the audience because of glaucoma or something? I doing she can see them leaving their seats in the dark.

[In Your Dreams]

Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks show just added in Chicago for June 21 at Soldier Field.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by In Your Dreams

Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks show just added in Chicago for June 21 at Soldier Field.

Billy just announced a show in Seattle at T-Mobile Park in May but without anyone else co-headlining.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Billy just announced a show in Seattle at T-Mobile Park in May but without anyone else co-headlining.

It's interesting that he needed her to sell tickets at the Diamondbacks Stadium in Phoenix but doesn't need her to sell tickets at T-Mobile Park as they're both baseball fields. All of the other dates he did with Stevie were football stadiums. So no Lumen Field in Seattle or State Farm Stadium (Arizona Cardinals) in Phoenix.

Yay for another tour with Billy!