Rumours of Lindsey leaving the band?

[FuzzyPlum]

I dont want anyone new joining Fleetwood Mac. However, if they are intent on replacing Lindsey with a name/names then maybe they could have sounded out Bryan Adams. I think he could have probably been a decent fit.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

I dont want anyone new joining Fleetwood Mac. However, if they are intent on replacing Lindsey with a name/names then maybe they could have sounded out Bryan Adams. I think he could have probably been a decent fit.

Why???????

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

Why???????

Just think he has the right sound, image, skills, etc.
He has (or at least had) a good rock voice that would have belted out some of the PG-era songs well. I also think he could have done justice to the likes of GYOW. As the principle male vocalist I just cant see Neil Finn singing those sorts of songs. Bryan Adams is also a very good guitarist. If they retained Neale Heywood they probably wouldn't have needed an additional guitarist/vocalist.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

If they retained Neale Heywood they probably wouldn't have needed an additional guitarist/vocalist.

Did they get rid of all of the backing band members with ties to Lindsey, too? Do we know of any other casualties of this battle?

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

I think you are being a bit unfair. I don't think Neil Finn is the right choice for Fleetwood Mac at this particular time, but to say he sucks is quite ridiculous. Through various bands/solo he's actually had more top 40 hit singles in the UK than Fleetwood Mac have had in total since 1967 (21 against 16).

I wouldnt say his voice is like nails down a chalk board, however I don't think its distinct enough to juxtapose against Chris and Stevie.

We all have different tastes in music Fuzzy
I am aware of Crowded House and always hated them. I was I never a fan of the pop new wave of the late 1980s.
One thing we do agree on (whether we like him or not) is his voice just does not fit with Stevie and Christine.
Its so funny you mentioned Bryan Adams. In the mid-80's I used to fantasize the duet he did with Tina Turner (Its only love) was sung by Stevie or Chris. Play the song and picture each one singing with Bryan. I don't know who I would have picked but I think either would have done better than Tina.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Did they get rid of all of the backing band members with ties to Lindsey, too? Do we know of any other casualties of this battle?

Sorry, that's just me speculating.
With 2 guitarists in Mike and Neil I'm not sure they'd need the services of Neale as well, but who knows?

[Matt Lucas]

Hello all---

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Hmmm. I think he's going to have to reign it in. He'll need to get used to a rigid set list and rehearsed speeches. Mark my words, he wont get the freedom he's used to- Its not just Lindsey that likes the routine.

Oh, I think you’re absolutely correct. Neil is joining the circus. Hopefully someone told him there are two or three ringleaders. He’s a pretty easy-going yet confident guy, so I think he’ll be okay. I expect he’ll probably just ride the wave and enjoy it while it lasts. I can’t imagine anyone thinks this a long-term collaboration. Does anyone think that? The press release itself states that Lindsey isn’t involved in this particular tour. It doesn’t mention the future, does it?

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Now that its been one day to get over this Lindsey debacle I can say another thing.
This Crowded House guy sucks. I have no idea about his guitar skills but I hate his weak and wavering voice. For the love of God, those who love classic rock but hate the Mac because they are too wimpy. How about a man's voice as a singer? Just like Lindsey's critique of Billy and Rick. You cant replace me so why try. Go in another direction. Gosh his voice is nails down a chalk board IMHO.

You have every right to be unhappy about this whole situation. But I think it’s unkind to bash a guy that some of the people here like. Nobody is saying you can’t express your displeasure at the situation and your dislike for Neil Finn. But how about, “I don’t really care for his voice.” Or, “His style isn’t one that I enjoy.” If you’re feeling particularly angry, you could try, “He should stick to his own music and leave FM alone.”

But saying he “sucks” and has a “weak and wavering voice” that sounds like “nails down a chalk board” is crossing the line. I get it. You’re not happy, and you don’t like Neil. Fair enough. But there’s no reason to be ugly and disrespectful.

You suggest that the band get “a man’s voice as a singer.” Have you ever listened to Lindsey? Until he lost his top end and started shouting more, Lindsey’s range was similar to that of most female singers. Have you heard him sing “Crystal?” I know several people who thought it was a woman singing that song. And Lindsey often sings in a hushed whisper, not unlike the vocal style used by Finn on some of his ballads. On the other end of the spectrum, both of them resort to shouting on their louder tunes.

I’m not saying this to criticize Lindsey, because I like his voice and his vocal range. He’s the main reason I’ve stuck with FM all these years, and he’s the only member whose solo work I buy and whose solo show I’ve attended. But he has a not-very-masculine vocal range and an exceptionally idiosyncratic vocal style (using lots of effects and vari-speed).

I’m just saying he’s not exactly a mountain of manly vocals.

matt

[Macfan4life]

C'mon Matt. Its out of this world to call me disrespectful and ugly because I don't like Crowded House. They do suck. IMHO they are one of the worst bands I ever heard. I am allowed to have my opinion. Their music is dreary and not very musical IMHO. I don't like his voice and never did. I don't think I am being disrespectful at all. You are free to praise this choice and I don't judge you for it. His voice is like nails down a chalkboard for me. I don't care how many top 10 hits they had in the UK. Its sappy music plain and simple. They are not from the UK but became popular in that late 80s British new wave pop era. That is my least favorite music. IT SUCKS. You are free to disagree with my opinion without judging me
If you want to read something harsh, see what the Heartbreakers fans say about Fleetwood Mac LOL

[Matt Lucas]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

C'mon Matt. Its out of this world to call me disrespectful and ugly because I don't like Crowded House. They do suck. IMHO they are one of the worst bands I ever heard. I am allowed to have my opinion. Their music is dreary and not very musical IMHO. I don't like his voice and never did. I don't think I am being disrespectful at all. You are free to praise this choice and I don't judge you for it. His voice is like nails down a chalkboard for me. I don't care how many top 10 hits they had in the UK. Its sappy music plain and simple. You are free to disagree with my opinion without judging me

Oh, I’m not judging you.

And now that you’ve pointed it out, I realize that I’VE stepped over the line, and I’m sorry for that. I said, “There’s no reason to be ugly and disrespectful.” What I meant to type was, “There’s no reason to say things that are ugly and disrespectful.” And there’s a difference. I don’t know you at all, but based on your comments in the forums, I genuinely believe that you are not an ugly or disrespectful person.

I also think there’s a difference between saying you don’t like something and saying it sucks. But, whatever. It’s not like discussing it is going to change your opinion of Neil Finn or how I perceive your criticism of Neil’s music.

If nothing else, we can hopefully agree that this news about Lindsey’s firing was a shock. The fact that we haven’t heard a response from him is somewhat curious. Is he waiting and watching to see how the fans and music media react? Is he keeping quiet and not burning any bridges, just in case he’s welcomed back at some point?

Fleetwood Mac has always been a band whose members brought in very different artistic strengths, and taking Lindsey out of the mix will have a huge impact. Neither Mike Campbell nor Neil Finn---both very good guitarists---is a Lindsey-level player. And neither of those guys prowls around the stage and owns it like Lindsey. So it will be a very different vibe when this new line-up takes the stage.

But the plus side is the band is getting two talented guys who can cover a lot of ground, musically, and their presence will probably ease a lot of the tensions.

matt

[DreamIsOver]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Sorry, that's just me speculating.
With 2 guitarists in Mike and Neil I'm not sure they'd need the services of Neale as well, but who knows?

More speculation on my part but as a guitar player Neil is a good songwriter, not a technician and you don't get someone with a distinctive style like Mike Campbell and ask him to play someone else's parts note for note so somebody else will have to be around in the background to play Lindsey's parts on most songs. Depends on what they play. I can see Mike doing his own thing yet still doing justice on "Dreams" but I can't see him playing "Little Lies" or Sara" or whatever note for note. Could he do it? Sure, he is a world class guitarist but that defeats the purpose of bringing in someone of his caliber.

[Mr Scarrott]

A well-written article on the situation which raises some interesting points.

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/10/fle...things-to-come

[Matt Lucas]

Originally Posted by DreamIsOver

More speculation on my part but as a guitar player Neil is a good songwriter, not a technician and you don't get someone with a distinctive style like Mike Campbell and ask him to play someone else's parts note for note so somebody else will have to be around in the background to play Lindsey's parts on most songs. Depends on what they play. I can see Mike doing his own thing yet still doing justice on "Dreams" but I can't see him playing "Little Lies" or Sara" or whatever note for note. Could he do it? Sure, he is a world class guitarist but that defeats the purpose of bringing in someone of his caliber.

Neil has taken his playing to a whole other level since Crowded House broke up back in the mid-1990s. As I said before, he's no Lindsey, but then, who is?

I'm confident that Neil can handle any of Lindsey's parts from the songs (unless they decide to cover those guitar instrumentals from OUT OF THE CRADLE!), and I know that Mike Campbell can as well.

Of the two of them, I'd say Campbell is the better (but more traditional) player, so I would expect that he will handle 75-90 percent of the lead work. And I think he will do well covering Lindsey's parts. He might not copy them note for note, but I think he'll convey the general mood of the parts. Same thing with Finn.

I think they both know their role, and neither of those guys is a glory-hound. They're both smart enough to know that they'd be fired if they stepped into Stevie's spotlight.

matt

[golddustboy71]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

A well-written article on the situation which raises some interesting points.

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/10/fle...things-to-come

I was just about to post this too! .. it doesn’t deflect from my still bitter upset and sorrow over all this....but does actually cast an interesting and positive view ( debatable I know)

[sue]

I’m gonna look on the bright side.
There isn’t any other way, really.

Lindsey will get to do what he wants.....new music and be happy.
The tour will take on a new vibe, it has to, with 2 new members on stage.
Stevie could take on a new lease of life and stop being a parody of herself.

Mick will get loads of money, and John will be John.
Job done....MAYBE.

[Matt Lucas]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

A well-written article on the situation which raises some interesting points.

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/10/fle...things-to-come

Thanks for sharing that one. It says everything I was thinking about the new guys but makes much better sense of it all.

matt