Rumours of Lindsey leaving the band? - Page 45

Matt Lucas · #**661** 04-10-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango

Many other bands put out an album in a much shorter time.

Peter Gabriel: "Hold my beer. And my keyboard."

matt

FuzzyPlum · #**662** 04-10-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

That last line seems something rehashed from older interviews.
I see, I had forgotten about that line of the "musical differences regarding the tour." Which musical differences regarding the tour could ever warrant a break-up?

Isn't 'musical differences' just a standard generic line that's used whenever band mates just don't get on?

**SisterNightroad** · #**663** 04-10-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Isn't 'musical differences' just a standard generic line that's used whenever band mates just don't get on?

Yes, I thought so too. It's the tour bit that I don't understand in this context.

gldstwmn · #**664** 04-10-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Lucas

Peter Gabriel: "Hold my beer. And my keyboard."

matt

sodascouts · #**665** 04-10-2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Who's managing Lindsey these days? I thought it was Azoff. I thought he was also managing the band....which was weird... in the pressers today it stated Carl Stubner (Mick's manager -- is he Chris's now too?) and Sheryl Louis (Stevie's manager) are managing the band.

Now that's a total takeover. Stevie gets her manager managing the band, plus gets a new ally in Mike who will always side with her. Game of Thrones has nothing on this band.

Remember when her PR Liz Rosenberg was supposed to also be repping the band? And then there was a RS cover story on *just* Stevie during the middle of a BAND tour??? hmmmm.....

Do we think Azoff left with Lindsey? If so, Fleetwood Mac not only lost a key member of their band, they really downgraded in terms of their management, too.

Matt Lucas · #**666** 04-10-2018, 01:00 PM

Hello all---

For what it's worth, we're getting something very different in Neil Finn. Anyone who's paid attention to Lindsey knows that, in spite of his passionate playing, he's very structured in terms of song arrangements and set lists and between-song banter.

Neil is quite the opposite. He's very spontaneous and loves interactive moments with the crowd. He thrives on them. He's known to frequently play requests for rare tunes from his extensive back catalog as well as the unexpected cover.

He's a very underrated guitarist and a talented keyboardist, too.

Here are a few samples from Neil's career.

Neil Finn - Loose Tongue
(A solo rocker.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxqW...D6UqKjCWZ5XKou

Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over
(Their best-known song in the US.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20

Neil Finn - Dizzy Heights
(One of his newest tunes, this one has a nice R&B vibe.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d67s...5XKou&index=11

Crowded House - In My Command
(This one shows off their Beatles influence.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIj_...OJZB0z&index=2

Crowded House - Private Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2xQ...mCSPllxZOJZB0z

Finn Brothers - Part of Me Part of You
(A great piano-driven rocker featuring some great harmonies.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc-9ZJ7ksAI

Crowded House - Weather With You
(Maybe their biggest hit outside the US. The layered percussion reminds me a little of something Lindsey might do.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3Ck43m_ZY

Finn Brothers - Angel's Heap
(Neil sings the higher harmony on this one.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go544-c5GrE

Pajama Club - These Are Conditions
(Something about the layers on this one always reminded me of a Lindsey production.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKa8xhcl6Bo

Crowded House - Instinct
(Not exactly one of their top songs, but the bassline sounds a lot like something John McView would play.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNzqu7GHLsE

Finn Brothers - Suffer Never
(A psychedelic rocker.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4_tAQKsfjk

Split Enz - History Never Repeats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXcYjI1-S8

Crowded House - Silent House (live 2007)
(This is a live version of a tune Neil wrote with the Dixie Chicks. I've always thought it had a Mac vibe to the music. The ending is a great example of his lead playing.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CDw...rFSSwX&index=6

Those aren't necessarily my favorites, but I was trying to share some songs that represent the variety of work Neil has done in his career.

matt

The Catdancer · #**667** 04-10-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts

Do we think Azoff left with Lindsey? If so, Fleetwood Mac not only lost a key member of their band, they really downgraded in terms of their management, too.

Someone said they're now managed by Carl Stubner and Sheryl Louis so basically by Mick & Stevie.

Ench · #**668** 04-10-2018, 01:16 PM

I would say that I'm more of a Lindsey fan than a fan of any other member, though Chris runs him close. It is sad that things have gotten to this point, but I suspect that a full Rumours band tour was off the cards from some time ago. Probably what we are going to get is the best we can hope for.

SYW is one of my favourite FM albums, and it doesn't have Chris on it. (I think it would be far superior if it had the better songs from ITM on it.) So, while we're not getting what we might have, I think it's better than the nothing that may well have been the only realistic alternative.

It does seem odd that they would add someone known most of all for being a songwriter to the band if they never want to do anything new, but given the ages they are, it seems hard to envisage another album.

I'm looking forward to a new LM solo album. I think he's done some of his very best work solo.

FuzzyPlum · #**669** 04-10-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Lucas

Neil is quite the opposite. He's very spontaneous and loves interactive moments with the crowd. He thrives on them. He's known to frequently play requests for rare tunes from his extensive back catalog as well as the unexpected cover.

Hmmm. I think he's going to have to reign it in. He'll need to get used to a rigid set list and rehearsed speeches. Mark my words, he wont get the freedom he's used to- Its not just Lindsey that likes the routine.

btw, I don't have an extensive knowledge of Neil Finn, but I remember Woodface was such a massive album here in the UK when I was a teenager. I really like Four Seasons In One Day.

On another note, Brian Johnson was also at Micks place earlier this year. I wonder if Brian was under consideration. I'd certainly take Neil Finn over Brian Johnson.

missundercover · #**670** 04-10-2018, 01:34 PM

Still haven't decided whether to be angry or sad, but it feels good coming here at least.
Don't know if the article has been linked already, but I LOVE the snark. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...ingham-w518935

But if there's anything we know for sure about Fleetwood Mac, it's that they have no ability to control the torture they inflict on each other (or on us).
They are the band destiny has doomed to suffer for our sins, acting out every couple's messiest secrets in public, reliving every stage of the pain cycle in a ritual repetition, like five Siddharthas of heartbreak.

"Lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice"? They should be so lucky. Only these five gypsies could keep getting hit with the same lightning bolt over and over, electroshocking each other into eternity.

Macfan4life · #**671** 04-10-2018, 01:41 PM

Now that its been one day to get over this Lindsey debacle I can say another thing.
This Crowded House guy sucks. I have no idea about his guitar skills but I hate his weak and wavering voice. For the love of God, those who love classic rock but hate the Mac because they are too wimpy. How about a man's voice as a singer?
Just like Lindsey's critique of Billy and Rick. You cant replace me so why try. Go in another direction. Gosh his voice is nails down a chalk board IMHO.

nicepace · #**672** 04-10-2018, 02:15 PM

Many pop singers and musicians these days put out recordings with other performers and use the term "featuring." It's so common there is an accepted abbreviation ("ft."), for example, "Beyonce ft. Jay-Z" (random example). I don't have enough knowledge of the music biz to know why they do this, why they don't just call their collaboration "Beyonce and Jay-Z," but it seems to me that that's what Fleetwood Mac should do. They should call this new version of the band "Fleetwood Mac ft. Mike Campbell and Neil Finn."

If they did this, it would acknowledge that this band is still FM (which it is, as long as Mick and John are in the band), while revealing that there has been a major personnel change. To just go on calling this Fleetwood Mac without an explanation seems really inaccurate.

I will be really surprised if there is anything recorded with this configuation. I really hope there isn't, after we didn't get a final album from the Rumours lineup. I am not in the slightest bit interested in contributions from the new guys or from Stevie, and if Christine has any songs left in her I hope she saves them for BuckVie II.

FuzzyPlum · #**673** 04-10-2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace

Many pop singers and musicians these days put out recordings with other performers and use the term "featuring." It's so common there is an accepted abbreviation ("ft."), for example, "Beyonce ft. Jay-Z" (random example). I don't have enough knowledge of the music biz to know why they do this, why they don't just call their collaboration "Beyonce and Jay-Z," but it seems to me that that's what Fleetwood Mac should do. They should call this new version of the band "Fleetwood Mac ft. Mike Campbell and Neil Finn."

If they did this, it would acknowledge that this band is still FM (which it is, as long as Mick and John are in the band), while revealing that there has been a major personnel change. To just go on calling this Fleetwood Mac without an explanation seems really inaccurate.

I will be really surprised if there is anything recorded with this configuation. I really hope there isn't, after we didn't get a final album from the Rumours lineup. I am not in the slightest bit interested in contributions from the new guys or from Stevie, and if Christine has any songs left in her I hope she saves them for BuckVie II.

Yes, the most notable example of this would probably be Queen ft Paul Rodgers, Queen ft Adam Lambert, Queen ft... etc.

bombaysaffires · #**674** 04-10-2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Hmmm. I think he's going to have to reign it in. He'll need to get used to a rigid set list and rehearsed speeches. Mark my words, he wont get the freedom he's used to- Its not just Lindsey that likes the routine.
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took the words right out of my mouth.

FuzzyPlum · #**675** 04-10-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Now that its been one day to get over this Lindsey debacle I can say another thing.
This Crowded House guy sucks. I have no idea about his guitar skills but I hate his weak and wavering voice. For the love of God, those who love classic rock but hate the Mac because they are too wimpy. How about a man's voice as a singer?
Just like Lindsey's critique of Billy and Rick. You cant replace me so why try. Go in another direction. Gosh his voice is nails down a chalk board IMHO.

I think you are being a bit unfair. I don't think Neil Finn is the right choice for Fleetwood Mac at this particular time, but to say he sucks is quite ridiculous. Through various bands/solo he's actually had more top 40 hit singles in the UK than Fleetwood Mac have had in total since 1967 (21 against 16).

I wouldnt say his voice is like nails down a chalk board, however I don't think its distinct enough to juxtapose against Chris and Stevie.