2015 Fleetwood Mac Album

[KenshiMaster16]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Ummm Stevie got them on Glee and herself on American Horror Story. If you don't know that by now then you haven't been paying much attention. She has not "went with the flow" as u put it like other band members. She has written notes to stars, cajoled, slipped comments and kissed major booty(especially to get on Glee and maintaining that relationship got her on American Horror Story)
She is smart and doesn't live in the clouds like Lindsey. She knows what it takes. Having other stars sing their and her praises has helped them stay relevant.

Clearly you don't know how Glee works. As a fan of the show, I know for a fact they come up with the song choices WAY before the season begins to get them cleared as there have been atleast over two dozen songs they've had to write off the show and not use because they were never cleared. they've never once been approached by any artist who wanted them to use their music, they use what fits the story they want to tell over the course of the season and even mentioned wanting to do a Rumours tribute at a Paley event way before they even wrote the script and finalized it. The only thing Stevie did in association with Glee was show up on set to show support and give her okay for the songs being cleared. The artists don't just show up on the FOX front door step begging for their songs to be played and if they did, that'd come off as mighty desperate. You're honestly giving Stevie too much credit. She is smart and she knows the game but you're giving her props for things she, and the other members of the band, had little involvement with.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Clearly you don't know how Glee works. As a fan of the show, I know for a fact they come up with the song choices WAY before the season begins to get them cleared as there have been atleast over two dozen songs they've had to write off the show and not use because they were never cleared. they've never once been approached by any artist who wanted them to use their music, they use what fits the story they want to tell over the course of the season and even mentioned wanting to do a Rumours tribute at a Paley event way before they even wrote the script and finalized it. The only thing Stevie did in association with Glee was show up on set to show support and give her okay for the songs being cleared. The artists don't just show up on the FOX front door step begging for their songs to be played and if they did, that'd come off as mighty desperate. You're honestly giving Stevie too much credit. She is smart and she knows the game but you're giving her props for things she, and the other members of the band, had little involvement with.

They came up with song choice of Landslide and Stevie visited the set and gave gushing interviews about how much she loved Glee. On her last day on Earth, Stevie said she will think of Glee... Oh brother... She really poured on the charm.

Anyway, after that visit they decided to do an episode devoted to Fleetwood Macs Rumours.

Stevie is extremely smart. Glee was selling records at the time and getting your music on that show is prestigious.

[ryan4136]

April 2016

Euro leg of tour in spring 2015, a short trip to Aussie land in summer 2015, few weeks off, then a shorter fall tour final leg in the US in 2015. Break for the holidays, then studio time mid january through early March. Album drops in April.

15-16 tracks..single album (5 or 6 for Chris, 6 for LB, SN)

And this will be our last album from the group....even though after they release they will make quasi promises of another "After the next tour we plan to get back in the sudio" LB then will quickly release two solo albums in 2017 and 2018 with the huge amount of material he's been sitting on since 2010.

With the likely the last FM tour starting in Summer 2016 through mid to late 2017.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by ryan4136

April 2016

Euro leg of tour in spring 2015, a short trip to Aussie land in summer 2015, few weeks off, then a shorter fall tour final leg in the US in 2015. Break for the holidays, then studio time mid january through early March. Album drops in April.

15-16 tracks..single album (5 or 6 for Chris, 6 for LB, SN)

And this will be our last album from the group....even though after they release they will make quasi promises of another "After the next tour we plan to get back in the sudio" LB then will quickly release two solo albums in 2017 and 2018 with the huge amount of material he's been sitting on since 2010.

With the likely the last FM tour starting in Summer 2016 through mid to late 2017.

Word has it 2016 is solo. Whatever they are going to do album-wise will have to be done in 2015 (summer?).
Short Aussie tour.
Album comes out.
Return to US for album push late 2015.
The End.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Stevie may be loyal but she's shown a strong resistance to studio work since Say You Will. On a few occasions the band has gotten together to try to start recording an album and Stevie has quashed that idea.

Fact is, Stevie was the only one in FM with a active ongoing record contract. After SYW, Stevie still owed a Warners THREE albums! Why would Stevie record with FM while not only did they NOT have any active contract (and still do not) on top of the fact she didn't entirely enjoy working w/ Lindsey in the studio during SYW after Lindsey acted like his usual bratty self.

You can look at SYW two ways, as there are 2 sides to every story.
It's enlightening to look back today at SYW with this perspective & knowing more of the facts and see how Lindsey did sorta sabotage & poisoned that project for Stevie by not compromising enough. Obviously Stevie finally had it! Stevie had compromised & conceeded with FM her entire career, even before going solo. The difference was that she was no longer in the position to have to anymore after SYW.

Besides, after SYW, Lindsey got his solo ya-yas out, releasing 3 solo records w/o ANY band interference. Surely realizing that commercial, or chart success would always be elusive, he needed the "big machine", even lobbyied for it! Stevie on the other hand didn't. And it's clear for many reasons why she didn't want that. First and foremost she needed to fulfill her record contract. So, obviously Stevie was going to set onward solo with Dave Stewart and her posse in 2010. And while doing so she had such a huge "ah ha" moment of not only enlightenment, but appreaciation -- creating music WITHOUT struggle and conflict. All the while, reinvigorating her creative spark and legacy by releasing another top-notch record with "In Your Dreams."

So, Lindsey & Chris (along w/Mick & John??) went into the studio for a few weeks last Spring and worked out @8 songs which "they" say are great. But who knows if they really are? What I do believe, however, is that if Stevie is not on-board with a new FM record, those songs will be either be released as a EP under Lindsey and/or Christines names, or perhaps a couple of them may be included on a career spanning FM compilation in the future. But they wont be released on an new album under the Fleetwood Mac name. Not as long as Stevie is still a member of FM, and not retired from the band. I don't believe Stevie will ever officially quit FM. She'll just let it sail into the sunset.

[KenshiMaster16]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

They came up with song choice of Landslide and Stevie visited the set and gave gushing interviews about how much she loved Glee. On her last day on Earth, Stevie said she will think of Glee... Oh brother... She really poured on the charm.

Anyway, after that visit they decided to do an episode devoted to Fleetwood Macs Rumours.

Stevie is extremely smart. Glee was selling records at the time and getting your music on that show is prestigious.

They wanted to do Landslide and at the same time already had the idea of doing a Rumours tribute episode so they asked for the rights to the entire Mac catalogue, which was then cleared. Stevie visiting the set came a few months later as they write and clear these episodes months in advance. By the time Stevie visited the set, it was well established in the Glee fandom that a Mac tribute episode was being prepped as spoilers leak for that show like you wouldn't believe. Again, she had nothing to do with the decision other than saying yes. Just because she's a major ass kisser is not the reason a tribute episode was created. I'm assuming you've never watched Glee other than those two episodes (or one) because every guest they have does those gushing, ass-kissing bts interviews. It's nothing new, even Britney Spears did it.

As I said, Glee goes to the stars for permission, not the other way around.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

They wanted to do Landslide and at the same time already had the idea of doing a Rumours tribute episode so they asked for the rights to the entire Mac catalogue, which was then cleared. Stevie visiting the set came a few months later as they write and clear these episodes months in advance. By the time Stevie visited the set, it was well established in the Glee fandom that a Mac tribute episode was being prepped as spoilers leak for that show like you wouldn't believe. Again, she had nothing to do with the decision other than saying yes. Just because she's a major ass kisser is not the reason a tribute episode was created. I'm assuming you've never watched Glee other than those two episodes (or one) because every guest they have does those gushing, ass-kissing bts interviews. It's nothing new, even Britney Spears did it.

As I said, Glee goes to the stars for permission, not the other way around.

Oh Lordy, you keep saying I don't know how Glee works, clearly. you have no clue how our very smart Stevie works.

[KenshiMaster16]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Oh Lordy, you keep saying I don't know how Glee works, clearly. you have no clue how our very smart Stevie works.

Of which I already said that may be the case with other factors, but not a TV show. The choices have to be run by FOX, then get cleared, then they're used. Stevie just can't show up and say "Hey, use my songs, won't you?" That's not the way a scripted show like Glee works. The plan was already plotted before she even showed up on set. The spoilers about the Rumours episode leaked in January of that year, Stevie didn't visit the set until February (which was well documented because of all the actors tweeting about it). I know because by then I'd already been following the show and reading spoiler leaks for some time.

If you wanna give her props for it, then fine. But she had nothing to do with any of it other than giving her blessing. That's it. Hardly fit for a pat on the back.

[Macfanforever]

Don't forgot the cash registers are cha chinging away for FM royalties from TV/Radio commercials like this Bud commercial as a example.



What kills me .How they are going to promote the new album this late in the game.Atlease they could of thrown in a new Lindsey/Chris tune or two in the setlist of this current tour to get the fans a taste of the new music on the album.

A couple of TV show appearances in 2015 is not going to sell albums like promoting it with a full tour.

If Stevie promotes her 24K in 2016 with a tour.The album will be 2 years old by that time. Will it help her to sell a 2 year old album.

[KenshiMaster16]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Don't forgot the cash registers are cha chinging away for FM royalties from TV/Radio commercials like this Bud commercial as a example.



What kills me .How they are going to promote the new album this late in the game.Atlease they could of thrown in a new Lindsey/Chris tune or two in the setlist of this current tour to get the fans a taste of the new music on the album.

A couple of TV show appearances in 2015 is not going to sell albums like promoting it with a full tour.

If Stevie promotes her 24K in 2016 with a tour.The album will be 2 years old by that time. Will it help her to sell a 2 year old album.

My current thinking is Stevie will give them several songs probably after this tour is over, then she'll spend another couple months making another volume of Songs from the Vault, do a small, short tour for both volumes 1 & 2 while Lindsey does another small indie tour, get a month or two break and then the Mac come summer 2016 will release an album and tour through the winter into 2017.

Atleast that is my hopes anyway.

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by tabruns

Well I think the fact that Stevie said she's with FM through the rest of the year pretty much means she's doing the Mac album with them.

This is my feeling as well.

Originally Posted by saradorna

None of us know whats REALLy is going on!

THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this for the last year. There are only 5 PEOPLE who know the real story of how things are planned to go down. And NONE of those 5 people are on this message board.

I have a strong feeling that Stevie is TOTALLY on board with making a record, just that there's nothing set in stone yet as far as studio time/dates and a new record contract...so that's why things are still up in the air. Just my opinion. Either it will happen or it won't, but I really think it WILL. It's just a matter of when.

And if it doesn't happen, the variables that will make it as such will NOT boil down to placing the blame on solely ONE band member.

[tabruns]

I think the current tour isn't as much of a "money grab" as some think. Yeah, they're making bank....but I think the point of the tour is partially to reignite excitement from the fans *as a prep for the new album* and also to give fans what they want: Half the people want a new album, half the people want to see the band live.

My guess is its been something like this:

Nicks: I need to get this contract with WB done. Voila 24 Karat Gold.

Mac: Tour to make money, and for the fans, and to stoke excitement and interest prior to an album coming out.

Nicks: I want to tour behind 24KG.

Mac: We want to get the album done, put it out, then tour behind it.

(negotiation, negotiation, negotiation)

2015: Finish Mac album, do a Fall tour.

2016: Nicks tours IYD/24KG...possibly does Songs From The Vault II.

I don't know if this is the case but what might have been a middle ground would be for Mac to let Nicks perform "Lady" in their set (with McVie on keyboards), and sell 24KG with the t-shirts. Then in return agree to fully participate in a double Mac album and commit to the band through the year.

[MikeInNV]

I'll preface this by saying I'm not at all savvy about the ways of the music business. Does having Stevie free from her WB contract somehow put Fleetwood Mac in a better position to negotiate a record deal? Otherwise, why all the talk of WB being owed one last record? I mean, it's not as if she had been rushing through her contract all along. Why was 2014 so important for giving WB their last record?

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by tabruns

I think the current tour isn't as much of a "money grab" as some think. Yeah, they're making bank....but I think the point of the tour is partially to reignite excitement from the fans *as a prep for the new album* and also to give fans what they want: Half the people want a new album, half the people want to see the band live.

My guess is its been something like this:

Nicks: I need to get this contract with WB done. Voila 24 Karat Gold.

Mac: Tour to make money, and for the fans, and to stoke excitement and interest prior to an album coming out.

Nicks: I want to tour behind 24KG.

Mac: We want to get the album done, put it out, then tour behind it.

(negotiation, negotiation, negotiation)

2015: Finish Mac album, do a Fall tour.

2016: Nicks tours IYD/24KG...possibly does Songs From The Vault II.

I don't know if this is the case but what might have been a middle ground would be for Mac to let Nicks perform "Lady" in their set (with McVie on keyboards), and sell 24KG with the t-shirts. Then in return agree to fully participate in a double Mac album and commit to the band through the year.

Why do they have tour behind album?

[elle]

Originally Posted by MikeInNV

I'll preface this by saying I'm not at all savvy about the ways of the music business. Does having Stevie free from her WB contract somehow put Fleetwood Mac in a better position to negotiate a record deal? Otherwise, why all the talk of WB being owed one last record? I mean, it's not as if she had been rushing through her contract all along. Why was 2014 so important for giving WB their last record?

i have the same question.