Fleetwood Mac Billboard Article 5/7/2014

[Kubrick2788]

If Lindsey wants to show Stevie how many people want to hear new music then they should have released a physical copy of Extended Play. I'm on the younger end of the fan spectrum and had no problem downloading it off of iTunes, but I know there are people that didn't bother looking for it or buying it because it was download only. Record Store Day is a great even for something like that! Even a CD in the merch booth would've been fine! The time they try to be hip and use the internet...they fail to also put out a traditional physical product

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

so his plans were with FM, and then seemingly during the recording (and not even during the tour) something changed and there was no long-term FM plans anymore. so he started recording solo tracks during the tour and when the tour ended he asked not to come knocking, but there was no plans with FM at the time anyway. so he gave them a heads up. that seems fair.

Certainly, when they were promoting SYW, Lindsey said that as far as he was concerned there was no need for him to do any more solo albums, that he could be fulfilled creatively just recording through FM. By the time the tour ended it was clear that no FM record appeared to be in the near future.

Michele

[Jondalar]

It's funny but I really think Stevie is making a solo album for artistic reasons and because Dave makes the recording process fun. However, I don't think she is doing the Fleetwood Mac album for artistic reasons. I think she is doing it because Chris is back and it's a cash grab. i think she has finally turned into a solo artist full throttle.

Who can blame her really? She got really good reviews for her last album and she finally found some magic again. I know she cried and cried over her failures. IYD actually left her with a positive feeling, so much so, that she is not making another album for sales. She actually can enjoy the process.

That being said. I want my Fleetwood Mac album!!!!!!!!!!!! I never thought Chris would be back. It's a miracle really. Then again I never thought Stevie would have 8 studio solo albums. This is really a magic year.

[BombaySapphire3]

I also posted that I thought Stevie was making her album for artistic reasons in her forum.She knows she is making the money off the high dollar tours and royalties from classics written in the Golden Age so conversely it frees her up to to do what she wants to in her solo career.I had to laugh when Christine said that some of the new songs that Fleetwood Mac were working on were " very commercial"Where does she think they are going to be played She may be more actually out of loop than Stevie now.Who would have thought.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by markolas

Lindsey looks a lot like my dad. So handsome.

I can't decide if this is creepy or hot. Maybe a bit of both, as I find Lindsey too pinched and pink toned for my own tastes. He was sexy from 78-82. All downhill from there.

As far as the album goes, the only way they could have finished one is to push the tour till next spring. No way they would pass up the summer touring season, so this is the only thing that makes sense. Chris gets to become more comfortable, they make a ton of money to finance the record and their other indulgences, and everyone is happy. I suspect it was a group decision. This pack of fools could never have recorded an entire album in this amount of time. It isn't how they work. They know that and any thinking fan does too. It is no surprise Stevie isn't there. Why should she be? To knit? Play tambo while Linds and Chris jam? I am surprised anyone is surprised. This is the way they have always recorded. L and C did their Tango writing thing, and reconnected musically. An important process. They break, and then scoop up tour cash. Then they break again, come back, record Stevie's stuff, she lays down vocals on their songs, and Stevie and Lindsey fight over sequencing and verb tense. She leaves mad, Lindsey finishes mixing and other overdubs, then they angrily tour. Same show, different episode, folks! It's like some of you have never watched a soap opera. Or at least this particular soap opera.

[brickney723]

Originally Posted by sparky

I can't decide if this is creepy or hot. Maybe a bit of both, as I find Lindsey too pinched and pink toned for my own tastes. He was sexy from 78-82. All downhill from there.

Lindsey is a couple years older than my dad. I also think he was totally hot from 78-82- when he was in his 30's-now now. I think kind of motherly about him- I really want him to have whatever he wants, get to do what he wants- etc. to be happy. Artistically, I just want to observe whatever he puts out there without condition. I don't even like it when people shout out what they want him to sing- I just want him to do whatever's in his heart without distraction. I think the reason I love him is because he often does wear his heart on his sleeve, it's such an endearing thing.

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by sparky

I can't decide if this is creepy or hot. Maybe a bit of both, as I find Lindsey too pinched and pink toned for my own tastes. He was sexy from 78-82. All downhill from there.

As far as the album goes, the only way they could have finished one is to push the tour till next spring. No way they would pass up the summer touring season, so this is the only thing that makes sense. Chris gets to become more comfortable, they make a ton of money to finance the record and their other indulgences, and everyone is happy. I suspect it was a group decision. This pack of fools could never have recorded an entire album in this amount of time. It isn't how they work. They know that and any thinking fan does too. It is no surprise Stevie isn't there. Why should she be? To knit? Play tambo while Linds and Chris jam? I am surprised anyone is surprised. This is the way they have always recorded. L and C did their Tango writing thing, and reconnected musically. An important process. They break, and then scoop up tour cash. Then they break again, come back, record Stevie's stuff, she lays down vocals on their songs, and Stevie and Lindsey fight over sequencing and verb tense. She leaves mad, Lindsey finishes mixing and other overdubs, then they angrily tour. Same show, different episode, folks! It's like some of you have never watched a soap opera. Or at least this particular soap opera.

Perfect and likely correct summary.

I actually wstch 2 soap operas- this one and General Hospital.

[pattyfan]

Originally Posted by sparky

Then they break again, come back, record Stevie's stuff, she lays down vocals on their songs, and Stevie and Lindsey fight over sequencing and verb tense.

LOL!!!

Kevin

[BigAl84]

a lot of people are referencing tango as an example of this working model in the past, but I think most people are surprised this method continues because Stevie wasn't happy at all that she was left out of the process, she's talked before about being furious she was barely on that record until she insisted being added to the mix.

With SYW...again I think they got put into a corner. The majority of the album was done by the time Stevie came in and then they were under the gun to finish all of her songs and have her add backing vocals on lindsey's most likely within a certain time frame. Not a lot of room for mistakes or figuring things out. Which is why most likely Stevie was not happy with her songs on SYW, but they were released anyways. It was too late for Stevie to put her foot down or re-do anything.

If Stevie were wise I think she should of worked with Lindsey ahead of time much the way Chris is. Get Chris up the speed but also get the ball rolling with Stevie and at least get the beginnings of one or two of her songs rolling. In general, I just don't think bringing Stevie into a mac record in the 11th hour hasn't and doesn't really work as well as they think it does. It appears that it backfires more than anything. That's just my two cents though, heck I'm not in the studio with them. Only going on what we've heard and seen.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

a lot of people are referencing tango as an example of this working model in the past, but I think most people are surprised this method continues because Stevie wasn't happy at all that she was left out of the process, she's talked before about being furious she was barely on that record until she insisted being added to the mix.

With SYW...again I think they got put into a corner. The majority of the album was done by the time Stevie came in and then they were under the gun to finish all of her songs and have her add backing vocals on lindsey's most likely within a certain time frame. Not a lot of room for mistakes or figuring things out. Which is why most likely Stevie was not happy with her songs on SYW, but they were released anyways. It was too late for Stevie to put her foot down or re-do anything.

If Stevie were wise I think she should of worked with Lindsey ahead of time much the way Chris is. Get Chris up the speed but also get the ball rolling with Stevie and at least get the beginnings of one or two of her songs rolling. In general, I just don't think bringing Stevie into a mac record in the 11th hour hasn't and doesn't really work as well as they think it does. It appears that it backfires more than anything. That's just my two cents though, heck I'm not in the studio with them. Only going on what we've heard and seen.

I love Stevie but who cares what she thinks about Tango in the Night. They wanted her to be part of the process and there was always a problem and it wasn't all due to her drug addiction. She only spent two weeks in the studio. And then when she when she heard the final result, she acted like a spoiled brat. Even Chris yelled at her. She got a big head and I think she realizes now that she really lost out on something. Tango in the Night is one of the best album from the 1980s and she is the weak link on the album and it is her own fault.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

- this one and General Hospital.

Ha, General Hospital. I've been traipsing all over town to support the various showings of Kristina Wagner's Children of Internment.


Michele

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

I love Stevie but who cares what she thinks about Tango in the Night. They wanted her to be part of the process and there was always a problem and it wasn't all due to her drug addiction. She only spent two weeks in the studio. And then when she when she heard the final result, she acted like a spoiled brat. Even Chris yelled at her. She got a big head and I think she realizes now that she really lost out on something. Tango in the Night is one of the best album from the 1980s and she is the weak link on the album and it is her own fault.

You almost have to wish there was a documentary done on recording Tango. Quite honestly, after years and years (AND YEARS) of discussing recording Rumours and Tusk...bla bla Sausolito, bla bla Lindsey's garage, yadda yadda yadda....I would have to think a Tango documentary would be incredibly amusing and a much better story. Lindsey whining that he's giving up his solo album for the band...Christine churning out some of her best material ever...Stevie swooping in at the 11th hour and being a piss pot...and naturally, the last scene would have to be the big fight about the tour (a.k.a. Lindsey's Swan Song).

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by jmn3

You almost have to wish there was a documentary done on recording Tango. Quite honestly, after years and years (AND YEARS) of discussing recording Rumours and Tusk...bla bla Sausolito, bla bla Lindsey's garage, yadda yadda yadda....I would have to think a Tango documentary would be incredibly amusing and a much better story. Lindsey whining that he's giving up his solo album for the band...Christine churning out some of her best material ever...Stevie swooping in at the 11th hour and being a piss pot...and naturally, the last scene would have to be the big fight about the tour (a.k.a. Lindsey's Swan Song).

Yes the massive Stevie & Lindsey blowout at Christine's house...

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by sparky

I can't decide if this is creepy or hot. Maybe a bit of both, as I find Lindsey too pinched and pink toned for my own tastes. He was sexy from 78-82. All downhill from there.

Downhill? 1987 was like Mount Everest.

Michele

[Autumn Ocean]

Another reason Stevie should be there is to temper the schmaltz LB and CM come up with when left to their own devices. Mystified and You and I Part II are truly awful songs. I can only assume that they spent a lot of time in elevators together, looking for inspiration.

I listened to TITN all the way through this morning, to see if I'd had a change of heart about these two songs (and Family Man). Nope. I still think they are highly polished sonic turds.

They've done amazing things on CM's songs when he has fleshed out her demos but as co-writers, Blech!