Stevie discusses Possible New

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It feels like a loveless marriage where the sex died years ago, but they stay together for the sake of the children, even though everybody is miserable because nobody's really getting anything they want.

Not releasing music because people will only steal it anyways? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That's cutting off the nose to spite the face. She'd rather not sell 1.5 million albums with Fleetwood Mac because they should be selling 3 million (numbers firmly pulled out of ass)? Instead of getting half of something, she'd rather have a whole of nothing? And, why is that only a concern related to Fleetwood Mac records?

Not liking Lindsey's production? Okay, who says she has to have him produce her songs? She could use her own producer, or even different producers for every song. Just have Mick, John, and Lindsey be her backing band. That seems like a pretty simple solution, and one other multi-vocalst bands have used (i.e. Crosby, Stills, & Nash).

I'm just tired of the excuses as to why we're not getting a new record.

Like I said, she can do whatever she likes, she's earned that right. I would love an album with LB MF JM. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Fleetwood Trio

[Phil]

I concur with Johnny - "Angel", "That's Alright" and "Straight Back" are all wonderful songs (three of my favourites in fact), but Lindsey's production was very straightforward and not in the least inventive. I actually think this approach benefited the songs because it allowed them to breathe, unencumbered of clutter. On the other hand, Lindsey's work on Stevie's Say You Will contributions for the most part left me cold. Whilst well intentioned, he didn't seem to grasp her songs as a whole.
I realise I'm in the minority here, but I did actually adore what Lindsey did with "Goodbye Baby". The layered guitars and Stevie's whispered vocal was a thing of beauty in my opinion. I also love the original demo, but we need to remember that they were recorded 27 years apart from one another. I really dig the evolution of this track, particularly as viewed from a mature woman's perspective. As for "Smile At You", well that's quite another matter...

[Fever Dance]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Well, it was so hilarious that you said it, because there was a picture of MC Hammer in the thread.

Michele

Yeah I didn't even realize it was a jab until later

I blocked that song out of my head as well as most of early 90's lol plus like I said , pre-coffee!
anyway I'm glad I could provide giggles, it is pretty funny.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Like I said, she can do whatever she likes, she's earned that right. I would love an album with LB MF JM. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Fleetwood Trio

Of course she has the right to do whatever she wants with her career.

However, I don't think she has the right to blame the fans or the band for the lack of a Fleetwood Mac album, all while saying that SHE won't be the one to break up Fleetwood Mac.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Like I said, she can do whatever she likes, she's earned that right. I would love an album with LB MF JM. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Fleetwood Trio

Me too! In fact, I'd greatly prefer it to a Stevie/Mac album!

[Lilyfan]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

In my opinion, she has earned her right to call herself an artist. She has done a lot of work. If you've ever done an album, it's a lot of work. (Especially as a composer)

I'll say it again : At her age and with what she has accomplished (like it or not). She can do whatever the hell she wants. She's Stevie Nicks.

I agree with this in its entirety.

[BLY]

I still think the chapter of Fleetwood Mac recordings should end with the Fab 5. I think if Mick can get Chris to do some recording all will fall into place.

[mylittledemon]

^ I concur.

I'm okay with Chris not touring (that is to say I understand her trepidation)... but I want her to come back if the band is going to release new material.

[wondergirl9847]

Originally Posted by sparky

I think at this point, as far as SN is concerned, she would rather be the captain of her own ship when it comes to recording. She pulls legend rank on Stewart and Grohl, and almost anyone else she works with. I am sure the deference is intoxicating. Dave Grohl moons at her like a lovestruck teenager in those live videos. And who wouldn't? Oh. That would be Lindsey.

Why record a money losing record with FM when she can record with these people who worship her, and she can maintain creative control? What would you choose? The psychodrama of spending 8-10 months fighting with your now 35 years gone ex? Or spending the "best year of your life" with Dave Stewart? Please. You grab the tour money. You play the Daytime Drama Cheese moments with FM. (God knows here on the Ledge there is proof of the obsession with that moth eaten coke infused Fromeo and Shawliet story. Many fangirls with still viable eggs practically ovulate when those two so much as hold hands). So you dust off the Shakespeare and give the droves what they want. And then go do your own thing where you call all the shots.

I said the same thing the other day, but nobody gave a crap. LOL You said it better anyway. She is not a goddess to Lindsey, she is just The Ex. To everyone else, she's STEVIE NICKS! Yes, I'm sure she'd much rather spend time with people who fawn all over her as opposed to LB.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by michelej1

The way Lindsey talked about sneaking Mitchell up under her bustle didn't help to sell these records either. So, if management was going to tell them not to say anything that would let the fans know Stevie wasn't enthusiastic, I think that he wouldn't have been saying how reluctant she was either.

For her part, saying fans don't want new music isn't exactly the way to promote 3 new songs, if your management told you to put a positive spin on things.

True, true. I definitely understand what you mean. Although (and not to be nit-picky) she didn't say fans don't want new music -- she said fans don't want long albums. I think that's getting somewhat forgotten in this conversation.

In this latest round of interviews, she seemed more than fine with the idea of recording and releasing a new song here and there. Which again takes me back to the suspicion that her wariness largely comes down to her not wanting to commit to a long-term recording schedule with Lindsey. So she's looking for something to convince her that the potential headaches and battles wouldn't be for naught. Some validation that people would be excited to have a new Fleetwood Mac album in 2013/2014.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

I said the same thing the other day, but nobody gave a crap. LOL You said it better anyway. She is not a goddess to Lindsey, she is just The Ex. To everyone else, she's STEVIE NICKS! Yes, I'm sure she'd much rather spend time with people who fawn all over her as opposed to LB.

I think it's unfair to say she only wants to work with people who "fawn all over her." Grohl and Crow may be fans, but they're also both established artists in their own right. And they have most certainly worked with plenty of artists of Stevie's stature during their time in the business. I doubt either of them are still so moony, that they'd say, "no, that vocal is perfect Stevie -- I barely even noticed that you burped during the second verse."

(Not to mention the fact that Sheryl Crow got much more adventurous vocals out of her on "Sorcerer" and "It's Only Love," than anything Lindsey got out of her on 'Say You Will.')

And Dave Stewart is also far from a starry-eyed newbie. That man has been in the business for over 40 years, and has worked with everyone from Mick Jagger and Paul McCartney to Tom Petty and Bono. He's not going to play sycophant to Stevie Nicks.

The bottom line is, she and Lindsey have too much baggage. They bring out the worst in each other just as easily as they bring out the best in each other. If not moreso. Recording with Lindsey in the long-term is not enjoyable for her.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

she said fans don't want long albums. I think that's getting somewhat forgotten in this conversation.

Fans want good albums. If it's long but good, like Tusk, then fans will eat it up. If it's long, where there's a good Fleetwood Mac album buried by tracks better suited for solo albums, like SYW, then she has a point.

[johnnystorms]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Fans want good albums. If it's long but good, like Tusk, then fans will eat it up. If it's long, where there's a good Fleetwood Mac album buried by tracks better suited for solo albums, like SYW, then she has a point.

i had coctails tonight, so i shouldn't wade back into this, BUT fans didn't "eat up" Tusk. WE love it, but it sold a fraction of Rumours. 4 million , i believe. And that's only because a double album counts as 2 sales. So only 2 million really.

[SteveMacD]

Two million records is respectable. If the white Fleetwood Mac album had only sold two million, it would still have been considered a massive hit for the band, so it's all relative. Like a lot of great records, it's legend has grown over time.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by michelej1

That's my Stevie Nicks impression ladies and gentlemen. You saw it here first. I'm taking it to NOTS.

Michele

I cannot for even one second pretend to understand this joke.

But nonetheless, it leaves me with a wildly entertaining visual.

My thanks.