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05-02-2003, 07:37 PM
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Thing is, why are they complaining about the club and waiting on their refunds? Why don't the ones who do not want this anymore, who are beginning to realize that this was a farce to make money for JT, why are they not just reversing their charge cards?
I really hope that more ppl will contact the BBB, the CA Atty Gens office and the IFCC div of the FBI so that they are looked at. IF there is no fraud, then, it will come out clean, right? Internet Fraud, if you lost money: www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp CA Attorney Gen: www.caag.state.ca.us/cons...ilform.htm This is the Knights info that you will need to complete the forms: CO. DIRECTOR: JONATHAN TODD CO: SABRE MARK INC., FLEETWOOD MAC FAN CLUB CO. ADDRESS: 5737 KANAN RD. SUITE 237 CO. CITY; AGOURA HILLS CO. STATE: CA CO. ZIP: 91301 CO. PHONE: 818-865-9993 Warner Bros. Email: [email protected] ABC 20/20: abcnews.go.com/sections/2..._form.html Along with filing an internet fraud claim, file a report with the Better Business Bureau: www.bbb.org Individual Band Member Managers: Mick Fleetwood - Carl Stubner , President of Immortal Records Music Division and the Artist Manager speaking on behalf of Fleetwood Mac , 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604 John McVie - Carl Stubner Deluxe President Immortal Records Music Div, 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604 Internet Fraud, if you lost money: www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp CA Attorney Gen: www.caag.state.ca.us/cons...ilform.htm This is the Knights info that you will need to complete the forms: CO. DIRECTOR: JONATHAN TODD CO: SABRE MARK INC., FLEETWOOD MAC FAN CLUB CO. ADDRESS: 5737 KANAN RD. SUITE 237 CO. CITY; AGOURA HILLS CO. STATE: CA CO. ZIP: 91301 CO. PHONE: 818-865-9993 Warner Bros. Email: [email protected] ABC 20/20: abcnews.go.com/sections/2..._form.html Along with filing an internet fraud claim, file a report with the Better Business Bureau: www.bbb.org Individual Band Member Managers: Lindsey Buckingham: East End Management 12441 Ventura Ct. Studio City, CA 91604-2417 office: 818.98.5060 fax : 818.985.5069 Mick Fleetwood - Carl Stubner , President of Immortal Records Music Division and the Artist Manager speaking on behalf of Fleetwood Mac , 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604 John McVie - Carl Stubner Deluxe President Immortal Records Music Div, 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604 Stevies Mgment: HK Management Howard Kaufman Sheryl Louis 9200 Sunset Blvd. Suite 530 LA, CA 90069 office: 310-550-5250 Fax: 310-550-5241 Last edited by seeknpeace; 05-07-2003 at 04:26 AM.. 
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05-03-2003, 10:44 AM
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05-03-2003, 01:45 PM
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05-03-2003, 03:16 PM
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05-03-2003, 03:23 PM
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05-05-2003, 09:58 AM
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05-08-2003, 06:20 AM
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Warning...
If you're a member of the fanclub there is a new drawing of some kind where you have to send an email and provide your name, address, password and PHONE NUMBER!
I think everyone should think TWICE before giving the fanclub their phone number. Considering the past actions of the fanclub and the way they have run their business, do you really want them to have your telephone number? Do you know what they will do with it and who they might give this to or possibly sell this to at some point. If you read the lastest changes to the disclaimer on the club site, it's been changed numerous times and it asks you to agree to any changes that will/might be made in the future. This was not the disclaimer or agreement most of us were shown when we joined and is an indication of why you should remember their past actions when it comes to changing promises, guarantees or any other things you were told. Even though they might never do anything with your phone number, is this a company who you'd want to take that chance with? Many of us have unlisted numbers and I don't see a problem telling them "my phone number is unlisted, please contact me by email or snail mail if I win your contest." Since all contests have very strict rules that the fanclub would have to follow, they could NOT take you out of the running for the drawing based on your having an unlisted number.
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05-08-2003, 08:06 PM
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very bizarre. the whole contest sounds fishy. he must be up to something with this. i think you might be on to it. he needs to make $$ from selling personal info from the member list. the original agreement didn't allow that. if you join the contest and wave that part of the agreement that allows him to do whatever he wants with your personal information. scary.
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05-23-2003, 10:07 PM
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If you haven't read about the latest outrage from the fan club rulers, please take a look at the thread posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon. If this kind of conduct doesn't make you want to do something about the fan club and the people running it, please excuse those of us who care to get the word out again. It's so sad this is still going on, but as long as someone like this is acting for the band in an official role, people need to be aware.
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06-20-2003, 12:39 PM
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06-24-2003, 03:10 PM
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FTC complaint form. Please file an online complaint to have the fan club investigated.
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.s..._ORG_CODE=PU01
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07-28-2003, 08:56 PM
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Latest fan club contest...you have to mail them and tell them what you like about the club and how it could be different and give them your phone number....now, why would they want or need all that unless they plan to use this mess to try to prove that there are so many supportitive ppl of the club when even the ones who are still over there and supporting Micks site, the very FEW, do not seem to support the club, down to admins. It is a mess, and someone seems to be scrambling to get some positive feed back. Think twice before you send them your phone numbers and addresses.
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08-01-2003, 12:05 AM
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Dammit this might read like some stupid rambling, but what the heck. I should still be alive by the time Im done typing it? This is how I see JT in a my minds eye scenario. LOL.... He slithers through mud filled with other vile creatures venturing ever closer into the clutches of a self appointed evil loser. He has not one true friend to speak of, and those close to him have his wallet in their sights. The person sleeping next to him at night has lost their loving feelings if there was any to begin with? Looking down into his hole I see draining dollar signs reaking of the way he prostituted his life. At the very bottom a dense dark void. A man crying out for the things money cant buy. Falling on deaf ears. Waiting to be judged. "Its a sad sight."............Mark PS. Any of this get you to wondering about life JT?
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08-03-2003, 02:52 AM
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Too little too late?
I've just heard the latest noise from the fan club about reselling fan club tickets. So...the club's coming down on members who try to resell their club seats (becasue they suck and found better ones) all because of a single scalper suspected of being a hacker. This hacker/scalper is also supposed to be a club member, according to the club administration. He's gotten all the good front row fan club seats to most of the tour shows going back to the earliest show dates and the first pre-sale.
HELLO! Why's everyone up in arms about this at Mick's board now? Where was all this outrage when a bunch of us got booted from that board for complaining loudly about the first pre-sale? We specifically brought up this issue of scalpers and hackers getting people's passwords or knowing how to hack the system before other club members got in. We asked for an explanation of how the scalpers at eBay got all the good seats and why all the known club members got nothing but back of the floor. We got nothing but silence and the boot from the site administrators. Now the Knight says he's hopping mad. Why now? Way back, when we questioned the process for selling fan club seats, he said there was software in place to prevent such happenings. We were told not to worry. We were shouted down by all the people who said we were malcontents. Now the tour is over and this stuff is just getting airplay? What's up with that? Last edited by glitter-fades; 08-03-2003 at 03:05 AM..
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