Beach Boys Vs IYD

[johnnystorms]

i shouldn't be posting this because i haed cocktails with a friend for her BDay tonight. consider it my ledgie "drunk dial". but i'm TIRED of record co. poormouthing... IYD was an artistic triumph, a critical hit, and a modest seller. lets say 150,000 copies at 12.00 avg. that's 1.8 mil... now, i figure 300,000 for session players and equip. 200,00o to producers and promotion... maybe another 300,000 misc expenses. that still leaves basically 1 mil in profit.. who would complain about DOUBLING your investment in a year?? so, the thought that a modest selling record was a money loser is preposterous, much less the GaGas, and Katy Perrys. something doesn;t add up about this record co. poor-mouthing

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

But I would have been extremely shocked and disheartened to see Stevie belting out a song while 1-800 numbers flashed across the screen. It's kinda desperate, ne c'est pas? Yes, Stevie would have probably eked out a slightly higher position on the Billboard charts if she plugged her new album on QVC, but at what cost to her integrity?

Same here. I was shocked to see Sheryl Crow on QVC promoting her most recent album as well. It all seemed so tacky.

[Tango]

I agree Johnny Stew. I don't get it either. It seems David A wants to somehow stir up the old Lindsey vs Stevie battles. Swap a few words around, and this is David A's adjusted post:



I preface this by saying, that the Beach Boys TOUR is doing awesome, numbers are very good, etc. And now the new album. I have NOT heard it yet, bought it yesterday. But ppl keep talking about how "Seeds We Sew" didnt sell cause of the market of music. Well, see below, apparently the Beach Boys arent having any issues. I want to respectfully ask what ur thoughts are , meaning, BB are older than LB and FM, and if they are selling , then why didnt "Seeds We Sew" sell ? and BB are on a smaller label IMO. This article and chart position for BB new album doesnt seem to jive with what ppl are saying about Lindsey Buckingham NOT selling.

Bore, bore, bore.

[vivfox]

I have respect for most people. I respect opinions. I don't always agree with them but I respect your right to have one different than mine. What David A is good at IMO is creating conversation. He knows how to stir the pot. I never really will understand what motivates people to be so defensive concerning Stevie.

[WildHearted]

^This thread is not stirring the pot with anything actually thought provoking, though. It's simply making a frustrating ill-supported argument into an attack at her "success."

I'm all for a good conversation. I just can't get behind the oversight of reality for the sake of putting someone down, which is what this seems to me. Maybe I've misinterpreted.

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I have respect for most people. I respect opinions. I don't always agree with them but I respect your right to have one different than mine. What David A is good at IMO is creating conversation. He knows how to stir the pot. I never really will understand what motivates people to be so defensive concerning Stevie.

Originally Posted by WildHearted

^This thread is not stirring the pot with anything actually thought provoking, though. It's simply making a frustrating ill-supported argument into an attack at her "success."

I'm all for a good conversation. I just can't get behind the oversight of reality for the sake of putting someone down, which is what this seems to me. Maybe I've misinterpreted.

The thing that's tedious is that he just won't rest until we all say IYD is a failure. Suppose we had the exact number sold, let's say it's 175K. The number of units sold is a fact, but what constitutes a success or a failure is purely a matter of opinion, and we don't all have to share DavidA's.

[StreetAngel86]

so weird this is a thread
beach boys tickets went on sale today
i totally forgot until just now
i am still debating whether or not to go
but if they're doing really well with this tour ... ???? WOOHOO!!!!!1

[AnthonyMI]

it appears that Thats Why God Made the Radio may debut somewhere between 3 and 6. Not shabby. Didn't IYD debut at 6? Seems like they are pretty evenly matched, and considering Stevie did not have QVC on her side I bet the Beach Boys might be in for a steeper drop off in sales than Stevie. I think IYD managed to stay in the Top 100 pretty long and moved up several times, not counting the times her appearances propelled her other works (with FM) BACK into the Top 100.

Also, comparing a solo artist from the 70's and 80s (who was already not half as popular as added to the other 4/5ths of the band) who had a major comeback in 98-01, to a group that was basically the uSA's version of the Beatles that has not put together a worthy album since around the same time as Rumours (The last Beach Boys album to do anything on the charts was in around '79) is like comparing Apples to Cumquats.

[LittleSpacey]

why does anyone even reply to his threads anymore? You know what he's trying to do, why fall for it?