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Old 08-03-2026, 10:08 AM
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It's funny...80 minutes is 80 minutes, is 80 minutes...

No amount of Stevie Nicks' witchcraftery dreaming can alter physics.
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Old 08-03-2026, 01:13 PM
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I wonder how much the CD sales of Tusk would have been affected had it been released as a two-disc set to accommodate the full-length version of Sara?
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It's funny...80 minutes is 80 minutes, is 80 minutes...

No amount of Stevie Nicks' witchcraftery dreaming can alter physics.
Stevie must be on vacation in Salem at that moment, but it didn't matter cause I don't have my CD right now but all sources say the album Tusk lasts no more than 74 minutes.

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I wonder how much the CD sales of Tusk would have been affected had it been released as a two-disc set to accommodate the full-length version of Sara?
That was part of the questions that came up during my tantrum. I don't know if they conducted a market research to determine they wouldn't break even if it were a 2-cd, or they just didn't take the risk. But how the band aproved the cut to Sara??? And why that song? Remember Stevie said in the Classic Album Rumours doc that she is very touchy about shortening her songs (about SS). And if she said that, it must be an absolute truth, because she never contradicts herself. So in this case did she know about the shortening before the release? Was it a label decision? Did they consult any member? If I had to choose I'd cut some Lindsey song from those I don't like enough, but all Lindsey's are very short to be reduced. And the three longest Tusk songs are Stevie's, so there wasn't much to choose from, but in that case, I would have shortened Beautiful Child, not Sara.

Of course, the company surely chose Sara thinking that fans would feel forced to buy a later compilation containing the full version of Sara. They would be more likely to do that than for Beautiful Child.
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Old 08-03-2026, 05:46 PM
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Stevie must be on vacation in Salem at that moment, but it didn't matter cause I don't have my CD right now but all sources say the album Tusk lasts no more than 74 minutes.



That was part of the questions that came up during my tantrum. I don't know if they conducted a market research to determine they wouldn't break even if it were a 2-cd, or they just didn't take the risk. But how the band aproved the cut to Sara??? And why that song? Remember Stevie said in the Classic Album Rumours doc that she is very touchy about shortening her songs (about SS). And if she said that, it must be an absolute truth, because she never contradicts herself. So in this case did she know about the shortening before the release? Was it a label decision? Did they consult any member? If I had to choose I'd cut some Lindsey song from those I don't like enough, but all Lindsey's are very short to be reduced. And the three longest Tusk songs are Stevie's, so there wasn't much to choose from, but in that case, I would have shortened Beautiful Child, not Sara.

Of course, the company surely chose Sara thinking that fans would feel forced to buy a later compilation containing the full version of Sara. They would be more likely to do that than for Beautiful Child.
It got bigger over time(that's what she said).(I screenshot the info, but it's too large, and I'm not dikcing with it)

It was probably the longest song, which is why it suffered the fate.
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Stevie must be on vacation in Salem at that moment, but it didn't matter cause I don't have my CD right now but all sources say the album Tusk lasts no more than 74 minutes.



That was part of the questions that came up during my tantrum. I don't know if they conducted a market research to determine they wouldn't break even if it were a 2-cd, or they just didn't take the risk. But how the band aproved the cut to Sara??? And why that song? Remember Stevie said in the Classic Album Rumours doc that she is very touchy about shortening her songs (about SS). And if she said that, it must be an absolute truth, because she never contradicts herself. So in this case did she know about the shortening before the release? Was it a label decision? Did they consult any member? If I had to choose I'd cut some Lindsey song from those I don't like enough, but all Lindsey's are very short to be reduced. And the three longest Tusk songs are Stevie's, so there wasn't much to choose from, but in that case, I would have shortened Beautiful Child, not Sara.

Of course, the company surely chose Sara thinking that fans would feel forced to buy a later compilation containing the full version of Sara. They would be more likely to do that than for Beautiful Child.
Honestly I bet most people did not even notice. I was very late replacing albums and tapes with CDs but remember Stevie's outage on Rockline during the Greatest Hits promotion. That brought it on the radar for me because they said it contained the full version of Sara. The core fans noticed. Was there ever a single version of Sara which was shorter than the album?
Why is it always poor Stevie that gets the short end of the stick. They could have eliminated The Ledge and kept the full version of Sara
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Honestly I bet most people did not even notice. I was very late replacing albums and tapes with CDs but remember Stevie's outage on Rockline during the Greatest Hits promotion. That brought it on the radar for me because they said it contained the full version of Sara. The core fans noticed. Was there ever a single version of Sara which was shorter than the album?
Why is it always poor Stevie that gets the short end of the stick. They could have eliminated The Ledge and kept the full version of Sara
Yes. There was a single version that was 4 mins and something.

But the full version was always on the original Tusk (vinyl) album.

ETA: the single version, 4:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCL1FsLL5Oo
The edit is at 2:41

Is this the same shortened version that got on the CD?
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But speaking of long versions, besides the 3/10/79 version that lasts 8:49 that came in the Deluxe edition, I got a 10:45 minute "Sara Remastered Demo" that I can't remember how I got it. It's most likely that someone here shared it many many years ago. It really has a demo sound, not much a remastered track, but it is cool to listening to it from time to time.

That reminds me again of when Stevie said she was very touchy about having her songs shortened. So, was she upset too because the vinyl album version was only 6:26 long?
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But speaking of long versions, besides the 3/10/79 version that lasts 8:49 that came in the Deluxe edition, I got a 10:45 minute "Sara Remastered Demo" that I can't remember how I got it. It's most likely that someone here shared it many many years ago. It really has a demo sound, not much a remastered track, but it is cool to listening to it from time to time.

That reminds me again of when Stevie said she was very touchy about having her songs shortened. So, was she upset too because the vinyl album version was only 6:26 long?
Would you shorten Bob Dylan songs?
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Would you shorten Bob Dylan songs?
I can't even stand Donna Summer's single versions. If I want to listen to Love to Love You Baby, it has to be the 16:48 album version . Same with I Feel Love, Could It Be Magic, etc. Even with "MacArthur Park, though actually thats a "suite" of three songs, but I love it.
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