Stevie discusses Possible New

[sparky]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

God I have missed you.

Thanks man.

I am between shows and on hiatus so I have a need to babble.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Based on the ticket prices I'd guess their nightly guarantee more like 1.5m-2m per show.

Bon Jovi has a million dollar guarantee. So I doubt FM is higher. FM is nowhere near the draw on the road that Bon Jovi is. Bon Jovi still plays stadium venues and in the last ten years the only acts to top their grosses are The Stones, U2 and Madonna. Maybe Gaga once. My memory may fail me on the Gaga numbers. I will check with a few of my sources on this. You know that the whole second SYW leg was only done to pay back the promoters who lost their shirts on the first leg, right?

GDW is worth watching because it is done slightly differently every time. Like you, for me it is the one old song I hope they never drop. All the rest of them I've heard wayyyyy too many times.

For whatever reason this is the only song that Stevie has never phoned in. It is always different night to night, and she is always committed.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Sparky wrote

A lot of us thought the SYW songs were her best in decades, thanks massively to Lindsey's touch. Amazing how tastes differ, but her SYW work ended up infinitely better than TISL.

All a matter of opinion.

In any case, it is hard to imagine, all quibbles about production aside, how showing up to sing into a mike for some songs in a studio with FM is so arduous for Stevie. She has a bigger chance at a hit that way than solo.

Au contraire. I think the pressure of a hit is way more in the FM backdrop. Like I said, the expense requires selling tons to just break even.

I don't think that process is merely showing up and singing, in spite of the fact that she may not be there at the creation of the tracks. She and Lindsey, for all things we have seen, bicker and fight non stop about every part of the recording. It sounds as though they fight so much that she just doesn't wanna be bothered. I am almost 20 years younger than them. And I refuse to fight at work. I just won't. Why should she?

[sparky]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

I said the same thing the other day, but nobody gave a crap. LOL You said it better anyway. She is not a goddess to Lindsey, she is just The Ex. To everyone else, she's STEVIE NICKS! Yes, I'm sure she'd much rather spend time with people who fawn all over her as opposed to LB.

Wondergirl!

[sparky]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I think it's unfair to say she only wants to work with people who "fawn all over her." Grohl and Crow may be fans, but they're also both established artists in their own right. And they have most certainly worked with plenty of artists of Stevie's stature during their time in the business. I doubt either of them are still so moony, that they'd say, "no, that vocal is perfect Stevie -- I barely even noticed that you burped during the second verse."

Of course there is no burping. LOL. But Stevie was Sheryl's IDOL. I love Grohl and he has a great pedigree. But he is about 5 rungs beneath her on the rock status chart.

(Not to mention the fact that Sheryl Crow got much more adventurous vocals out of her on "Sorcerer" and "It's Only Love," than anything Lindsey got out of her on 'Say You Will.')

Word. Where the hell did the falsetto come from? It was heavenly.

And Dave Stewart is also far from a starry-eyed newbie. That man has been in the business for over 40 years, and has worked with everyone from Mick Jagger and Paul McCartney to Tom Petty and Bono. He's not going to play sycophant to Stevie Nicks.

Oh I think he totally did. His career can't come close to hers in terms of Icon status. Eurythmics sold a TON of records, and you and I both know he was the architect of much of that. But all anyone remembers is Annie. In spite of that, her solo career has been epic. And his has not. He is the Lindsey. And don't forget that he slept with Stevie. God knows what that means in the grand scheme of things. She went sniffing around for him backstage at the Wiltern the week they were on the cover of Rolling Stone and he somehow ended up back at her house.

The bottom line is, she and Lindsey have too much baggage. They bring out the worst in each other just as easily as they bring out the best in each other. If not moreso. Recording with Lindsey in the long-term is not enjoyable for her.

100% agreed.

[The Chain]

Originally Posted by sparky

She went sniffing around for him backstage at the Wiltern the week they were on the cover of Rolling Stone and he somehow ended up back at her house.

Can someone post this cover? I remember it happening, but cannot recall the particular issue.

[fairydust75]

Originally Posted by The Chain

Can someone post this cover? I remember it happening, but cannot recall the particular issue.

Who was on the cover? Must have missed that. Please fill me in....

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by sparky

Bon Jovi has a million dollar guarantee. So I doubt FM is higher. FM is nowhere near the draw on the road that Bon Jovi is. Bon Jovi still plays stadium venues and in the last ten years the only acts to top their grosses are The Stones, U2 and Madonna. Maybe Gaga once. My memory may fail me on the Gaga numbers. I will check with a few of my sources on this. You know that the whole second SYW leg was only done to pay back the promoters who lost their shirts on the first leg, right?

Get out!! On both Bon Jovi & SYW tour... Who knew!

For whatever reason this is the only song that Stevie has never phoned in. It is always different night to night, and she is always committed.

She does seem to always be into it. Lindsey's fav song. Lol

[wondergirl9847]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

She does seem to always be into it. Lindsey's fav song. Lol

It's my fave live song she does with FM as well. It's ALWAYS amazing.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It feels like a loveless marriage where the sex died years ago, but they stay together for the sake of the children, even though everybody is miserable because nobody's really getting anything they want.

Great analogy. I agree.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

True, true. I definitely understand what you mean. Although (and not to be nit-picky) she didn't say fans don't want new music -- she said fans don't want long albums. I think that's getting somewhat forgotten in this conversation.

She did say fans don't want long albums, but went on to add that the 3 songs have to prove themselves, indicating, to me anyway, that the public may not even want the 3 songs, let alone 10 or 12. She said just liking and enjoying songs, but them not being a big deal is what the music business is today. So, I took that to mean that the public today isn't really going to LOVE three songs, much less 12.

"If the public loves this - if they love these three [new] songs and we get back from them that they want more - then maybe we'll do more.

"If they just sort of like it and enjoy it, and it's not a big deal because that's what the music business is today, then we'll have had a great time doing these three songs and maybe we'll just make music for ourselves."

[michelej1]

GDW isn't my favorite live song of hers (I like the energy of EO17 and Stand Back), but it certainly still holds up better than Dreams, Landslide and Rhiannon. And it always sounds a little different each tour because she thinks of new adlibs, which spark my imagination all over again.

I mean, I start interpreting "you can't see me now, you can't feel me now" in my head, just like you do the first time you get lyrics from a new album.

Also, when it comes to the back up singer discussion, to me the only songs they made better with FM were GDW and Beautiful Child.

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by sparky

Au contraire. I think the pressure of a hit is way more in the FM backdrop. Like I said, the expense requires selling tons to just break even.

i really don't get the expense part that people keep bringing up.

if you consider digital technology + Lindsey has a studio (and a record label) - where's this huge expense coming from??

the only huge expense i can think of is all of their separate management and lawyers, but i know nothing about the recording business these days so would love to learn.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

the only huge expense i can think of is all of their separate management and lawyers, but i know nothing about the recording business these days so would love to learn.

Promotion costs money. And if it's a whole album, then packaging and distribution. I would hope that a whole album would not be a digital download only.

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Promotion costs money. And if it's a whole album, then packaging and distribution. I would hope that a whole album would not be a digital download only.

Michele

promotion yes, i can see that.

how is packaging any different than for any of their solo albums? and is distribution that much larger than for a SN solo album?

Lindsey solo distribution is definitely not huge (although i'm not sure about the economies of scale - if he solo covers as many stores as FM but just smaller number of copies)... but he did put out his last few albums and DVDs as hard copies - CD, DVD, blu-ray, as well as vinyl...

what else? to me it sounds like people are always talking about a year of studio time being the expensive part, and that part should definitely be a moot point, no? no need for a year, and no need to pay for studio time.