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secret love
12-28-2014, 07:27 AM
Great retort! It seems sometimes people are looking (and finding) insults and disparaging remarks where there are none. For sure, Stevie is a great singer. Lindsey certainly respects and appreciates Stevie's unique songwriting talent; his omission to note it has no inferred meaning. He didn't refer to himself or Christine as songwriters either.

Stevie has successfully created her own atmosphere and distinctive signature style. Not many songwriters achieve that. Yet, I consider her not as a great songwriter, but a very good songwriter who has had many great songs.
Lindsey knows Stevie would take it as a slight that he doesn't appreciate her musical abilities. She did compose the basic melody and tune to Dreams, Angel, Beautiful Child, Say You Will (the song) ...anyway...it's not about her being a singer-songwriter, it's about Lindsey treating her in a derogatory way that discourages her from wanting to participate in studio efforts.

By the way, Lindsey, Mick and John started working on Say You Will album in 2001. Stevie came in more than six months later. Christine, Lindsey, Mick and John were working on the 2015 album which I am calling Hunger for now based on one of the unreleased Lindsey tunes...

Anyway, CM, LB, MF and JM were working on Hunger album in March and April 2014. Six months later would be October, when Stevie was still not participating due to the massive arena tour of North America getting in the way of any potential studio recording she could do.

Look how long it took Stevie to finish her contribution to Extended Play - she stayed at Lindsey's house in his guest room for just 2 days, probably a weekend. I love how Kirsten Buckingham is supposedly totally fine with that and how Stevie loves Lindsey's gorgeous kids, apparently. :sorry:

Anyway, I'd hazard a guess that Stephanie Lynn Nicks will most definitely be back in the studio in 2015 and that Christine's prediction of a May 2015 or July 2015 new release of some form from Fleetwood Mac can and will come true!

It might be five or six new songs, two from each writer perhaps, then a full-length album out by 2016 after the current On with the Show tour wraps up...

By the way, people, On with the Show would be a brilliant name for a new studio album by Fleetwood Mac featuring Lindsey's compositions:

Fleetwood Mac's On with the Show album

Hunger
Lay Down for Free
On with the Show
It Takes Time
Miss Fantasy
Sad Angel
Is it Right
Red Sun
Carnival Begin

and Christine's
Too Far Gone
How I Feel

and Stevie's
Without You
My Mother's Rings
Space Needle
Julia
Goldfish and the Ladybug

So many more that I can't remember but the new song titles are out there, Stevie has at least one, plus plenty of songs in her not so private vault too thanks to her "friends" leaking her unreleased works on the Internet.

Let's not let this band forget how fun new songs can be for their audience:

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This is the type of songs we are missing out on due to no new album:
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SteveMacD
12-28-2014, 09:05 AM
Goldfish and the Ladybug
No. Just no.

And no EP songs except for the deluxe edition.

secret love
12-28-2014, 06:06 PM
No. Just no.

And no EP songs except for the deluxe edition.

The Extended Play songs that should be included and re-done with Christine's vocals and keyboards, I think anyway, are It Takes Time and Miss Fantasy.

By the way, I was just listing all the titles of new unreleased songs we know about and some of Stevie's vault songs, that's all. I wasn't giving an opinion on what should be on the new album, I was speculating on what could possibly be included.

My Mother's Rings and Space Needle would be obvious choices for Stevie. All the song titles listed for Lindsey and Christine are likely to be included, as those are the eight songs Lindsey, Mick and John recorded in Stevie's key in 2012.

Christine's songs Too Far Gone, a danceable new tune according to a music journalist and How I Feel are two songs that were worked on in the 2014 studio recording sessions.

Stevie might appear ambivalent now, but once it clicks in her brain that the new Fleetwood Mac album is 75% complete and she only needs to dedicate three months work maximum to it, with a potential for high profits and also high critical acclaim...then I'm sure she'll come around to the idea of giving the band that gave her fame, its last swan song of an album.

PenguinHead
12-28-2014, 08:56 PM
Stevie didn't ask Lindsey and Christine to start working on a new record so u can't hold that over her head. The blemish of the successfulness is on Lindsey and Chris. They broke up the group.

You're right. I assume Stevie has never asked Lindsey and Chris to make a Fleetwood Mac record. But ever since she joined the group (excluding the brief time she wasn't), she has collaborated on every album when the opportunity presented itself. If you're part of a group, it's not an option, it's what you do.

Stevie is study of contradictions; she seems elated to have Christine back in the band, yet she has expressed a disdainful amount of ambivalence about playing her part in it. At this latter stage in the game, there is not a lot of time to waste. Stevie realizes this, acknowledging that things can be accomplished in shorter amounts of time. Lindsey, Christine, Mick and John have already put in their time and have done 80% of the work; Stevie in comparison, has it much more easier, since she doesn't play an instrument.

I certainly can hold it over her head and I sure feel fine.

I applaud U for inventing a new word: successfulness!

PenguinHead
12-28-2014, 09:12 PM
The Extended Play songs that should be included and re-done with Christine's vocals and keyboards, I think anyway, are It Takes Time and Miss Fantasy.


I think it would be entirely appropriate if the new album featured refurbished versions of the EP songs. Sad Angel was the only song that didn't sound half-baked. It Takes Time and Miss Fantasy deserve better treatment. Without You we can do without.

Sad Angel as is, or with a few upgrades from Christine, should be featured as a b-side/bonus track. By existing only in digital form on a EP, these songs will be easily overlooked and forgotten like obscure b-sides.

aleuzzi
12-29-2014, 12:54 AM
This is the type of songs we are missing out on due to no new album:
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Amen. The acoustic "Friend" is the best non-Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac song of the last thirty years. The electric version is very good too, but it's a bit overlong and lacks the acoustic version's crispness and propulsive keyboard work. So many songs on In The Meantime are simply the best Mac music we have since Tango. Go on--disagree if you must, but that's what I feel. "Giving it Back" and "Forgiveness" are career highlights, as are "Calumny" and "Northern Star." Oh well, the album that much of the world didn't notice...

Jondalar
12-29-2014, 01:51 AM
Amen. The acoustic "Friend" is the best non-Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac song of the last thirty years. The electric version is very good too, but it's a bit overlong and lacks the acoustic version's crispness and propulsive keyboard work. So many songs on In The Meantime are simply the best Mac music we have since Tango. Go on--disagree if you must, but that's what I feel. "Giving it Back" and "Forgiveness" are career highlights, as are "Calumny" and "Northern Star." Oh well, the album that much of the world didn't notice...

Love love love love Northern Star!

secret love
12-29-2014, 01:52 AM
Amen. The acoustic "Friend" is the best non-Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac song of the last thirty years. The electric version is very good too, but it's a bit overlong and lacks the acoustic version's crispness and propulsive keyboard work. So many songs on In The Meantime are simply the best Mac music we have since Tango. Go on--disagree if you must, but that's what I feel. "Giving it Back" and "Forgiveness" are career highlights, as are "Calumny" and "Northern Star." Oh well, the album that much of the world didn't notice...

Quite amazing how beautifully Christine sand on In the Meantime when she was sixty or sixty-one at that time - the same age Stevie was during the 2009 Unleashed tour.

Maybe Christine did less cocaine and never put a hole in her nasal septum?

Though she did love a fine glass of Dr Chardonnay or some French champagne!

In the Meantime is a beautiful record - there was a bonus track posted on the Ledge once, a outtake that didn't make it on to the record which I have been at a loss to relocate on YouTube since then. Oh well.

macfan 57
12-29-2014, 07:33 AM
In the Meantime is a beautiful record - there was a bonus track posted on the Ledge once, a outtake that didn't make it on to the record which I have been at a loss to relocate on YouTube since then. Oh well.

Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/6z1vwwv22z5v595/03_Come_Out_To_Play_Christine_McVie.mp3

FuzzyPlum
12-29-2014, 11:54 AM
Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/6z1vwwv22z5v595/03_Come_Out_To_Play_Christine_McVie.mp3

Not one of her strongest...but I think I might have taken it over 'Bad Journey'.
Not sure I'd like this to be on a new FM album. She can do better.

jbrownsjr
12-29-2014, 02:57 PM
Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/6z1vwwv22z5v595/03_Come_Out_To_Play_Christine_McVie.mp3

I think this is a great tune. I love her vocals on it. What a nice funky groove.

nicepace
12-29-2014, 07:25 PM
I love "Come Out To Play" and was just thinking about it the other day. I think it would work really well as a duet between a female and a male singer. (Think Christine and Stevie Winwood on "One In a Million.") The lyrics are ambivalent about whether the two people are going to "stay sister and brother" or if there is more in store for them. Alternating singers could alternate the lines expressing each point of view, and it would wind up telling a story about a tug-of-war in a developing relationship.

Can you just imagine the reaction if Christine and Lindsey sang the song this way. The fans who love to speculate about who slept with whom would have some fun with that.

jbrownsjr
12-29-2014, 07:41 PM
Can you just imagine the reaction if Christine and Lindsey sang the song this way. The fans who love to speculate about who slept with whom would have some fun with that.

Hahahaha!!! And they would live happily ever after... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (even thos he's married)

louielouie2000
12-29-2014, 07:47 PM
I guess I'm in the minority here- I don't think Come Out To Play is a great song. It's extremely dated sounding, and I'm glad it didn't make In The Meantime. To me, that album is pretty damned close to perfect as is. :thumbsup:

secret love
12-31-2014, 02:39 AM
I guess I'm in the minority here- I don't think Come Out To Play is a great song. It's extremely dated sounding, and I'm glad it didn't make In The Meantime. To me, that album is pretty damned close to perfect as is. :thumbsup:

I love Come Out to Play, but my favourites are Friend, You Are, Sweet Revenge and Forgiveness