Some DVDs available for download.. (torrent files)

[77Rumours77]

http://www.easytree.org
You need to join to see or download these files.. quick and easy. Then after you have logged on you need to search for Fleetwood Mac. These DVD's should come up.
The files that are up are..
Fleetwood Mac - Tusk Rehearsal 20th Oct 1979
"Quality Notes: DVD fully chaptered, interactive menu with alternate noise reduced audio track, picture signal has some close-ups which are clear, fuzzy on the long shots, best quality audio of the three DVDs, NTSC Picture Signal

This is my first upload, so please bear with me if problems arise, this rehearsal is not grade A quality, but it's raritie is quite unique, this is the best of the three rehearsals from 18th, 19th and 20th Oct 1979."

Lindsey Buckingham - Center Stage 1992
"NTSC Pro Shot with Dolby Digital Audio track, recorded to anologue video from TV broadcast and ripped to DVD, exact lineage unknown. DVD fully chaptered with menu, artwork included.

DVD Size: 1.83gb"

Enjoy! :cool:

[AliceLover]

Holy Crap this is cool!

Ill check it out!


Jimmy

[AliceLover]

How do you do this?

I right clicked and save target as. It finished in like 1 second, then Windows media wouldnt support it.

Anybody know how?


Jimmy

[77Rumours77]

Hey Jimmy...
What you need to do is download a "Torrent Downloader" I use Bit tornado.. http://bittornado.com/
There you can save the file to where ever you want and Bit torndao will open up and do the rest itself...Then after it is complete you will be able to do whatever you want. Now if you are downloading audio.. Well thats a whole different ball game.. PM me if you need help with that..
O BTW if you close it out or shut down your comp... Once you'v restarted you need to click on the file you donwloaded from the site and it will open back up. Hope this helped some.
Bye

[MacMan]

Nicely done... Thanks for that!!

[HomerMcvie]

Dammit, after I download the Bit Torrent thing, my computer doesn't know what application to open it with......HELP anyone?
I've never had any luck with the BT thing.

[77Rumours77]

this deoends on if you are using XP. If your using XP I can help, but if you are using something else, you'll have to contact bit tornado makers. OK, what you should do is right click the file and selct "Open With" and then hit select program from list, and then select Bit Tornado. Then after you do this any other Bit Torrent file you will download should automatically be directied to bit tornado.
Hope I could help
:thumbsup: :cool:

[MacMan]

It also will work if you just "click" on the torrent file and when a box pops up that says something like "Windows Doesn't recognize the file" and gives you an option to choose to open it with something else... choose "browse" and go find the torrent program you downloaded and installed into your computer and click on it from that browse window and it should work from there... From that point, your computer will recognize any other torrent files.

[gldstwmn]

Sweet! :] Thanks for posting this!
Also thanks to Neil for sharing!

[Gazza]

What songs are on the Tusk rehearsal?

[gldstwmn]

What songs are on the Tusk rehearsal?

From easytree:

Single Camera Shot of the 20th Oct rehearsal where the following songs were rehearsed:

Say You Love Me,
The Chain,
Oh Well,
Dreams,
Not That Funny
Rhiannon,
Over and Over,
The Ledge,
Sara,
What Makes You Think You're The One,
Save Me A Place,
Landslide,
Oh Daddy,
Angel,
You Make Loving Fun,
I'm So Afraid,
World Turning,
Go Your Own Way,
Tusk,
Sisters Of The Moon,
Sisters Of The Moon #2.
I Know I'm Not Wrong,
Songbird.

[face of glass]

I didn't want to announce this in the forums, since I figured Neil might want to do it himself. But I thank the man for opening up roads with this; as of now no one else in the community has shown any real interest in sharing lossless (qualitywise) material through bit torrents.

A couple of things people should still remember: those with dial-ups shouldn't bother because the files are large, that third day of Tusk tour rehearsals is 3,95 Gb in its entirety. And even with DSL users, should they be firewalled, the things can go slow, unless the firewall is configured for BT.

Also, Neil's upload is pretty low at 10 Kb/s. He started uploading Lindsey's Center Stage DVD about 52 hours ago, and currently we're at 64%. Patience is needed here. ;)

Note also that the Tusk rehearsal DVD is already quite an old torrent; most people who completed it in the first place are gone and there's only three people offering those files to others right now. So the download will be very slow at this point.

The most important thing: KEEP THOSE TORRENTS GOING AFTER YOU'RE DONE! The fairest thing is to upload at least as much as you download, meaning that your share ratio would be 1.00. Easytree monitors its users share ratios very closely these days; if it drops below a certain point you won't be able to use the site anymore.

Is it worth it? I say yeah. The Tusk rehearsal DVD comes from a low-generation tape, the amount of drop-outs isn't distracting and the audio sounds great. You get to see Chris play guitar on two songs, you get to see Lindsey play Fender on two songs, you get the funny "IKINW" incident, etc. If you haven't seen this, or if your copy of this is poor quality, jump aboard.

Center Stage DVD should kick some butt as well. Easytree also has the audio rip of Lindsey's 1993 ABC In Concert special still seeded.

And btw Jacob, in offering stability for downloads and uploads I think Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/) beats every other BT program hands down. ;)

[MiniLindsey]

I'm getting cable in 8 days, so please keep this up for awhile!

[HomerMcvie]

Wow, I think it might actually be downloading now. I have DSL, and it says it's going to be 160 HOURS to download!!!!!!!! :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

Wow, I think it might actually be downloading now. I have DSL, and it says it's going to be 160 HOURS to download!!!!!!!! :shrug:


I have broadband but it seems to be going a bit faster now. I'm about a third of the way there.
These are the first bit torrent files I've downloaded. Once they're done, how do I burn them? Can I use Easy CD Creator? What is the file extension for DVD's?

[AliceLover]

So i shouldn't even bother with dial up...................

[nodmod]

For the bit torrent newbies you may wish to check out the Lindsey Buckingham ABC in Concert audio files which are only 126mb in total size. THis torreent is posted at the following urlhttp://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?returnto=%2Faccount-cp.php&id=7688

Lindsey Buckingham - ABC In Concert 1992

Hosted by Sara Jessica Parker, Lindsey sings live and acoustic and talks about his latest solo album (Out Of The Cradle) and his departure from Fleetwood Mac.

1. Intro
2. Countdown
3. Commercial - Dialogue
4. Never Going Back Again
5. Commercial
6. Street Of Dreams Interview
7. This Nearly Was Mine - Street Of Dreams
8. Commercial
9. Interview
10. Soul Drifter
11. Outro


Audio ripped from DVD which I believe was recorded from VHS tape which in turn was recorded direct from TV. Audio Linage: DVD -> WAV -> Soundforge to split tracks -> WAV -> SHN

The files are complete and include silences from source tape, no segments have been removed or edited. This is the audio rip of the complete recording.

Also it would be great for other lossless files began to be shared on easytree, so if anyone who is joining up and has some direct to CD shows / DVDs (not MP3 sourced) please so post them, the whole point of torrent / easytree sharing is to upload as many files as you download and bring new good quality shows to the table, to my knowledge only the following Fleetwood Mac shows have been posted (please correct me if I am wrong):

AUDIO
Live in East Rutherford 1997
Live in Green Bay 2004
Live in Nagoya, Japan 1977
Live in Passiac 1975
Dead Dust Blues (live at The Warehouse, New Orleans, Jan 1970)
Live in Filmore East, 7th Aug 1970
Live at the Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA, 19th Feb 1971
Live in Waterbury, CT, April 1972
Lindsey - ABC in Concert 1992 (audio track from DVD)

DVD
Tusk Tour Rehearsal 20th Oct 1979
Lindsey - Center Stage 1992 (currently being seeded)


I apologise for not getting round to posting about this on the board, but I have been busy seeding these shows and working on a bootleg artwork archive page, you can see the work in progress at this link:
http://www.fleetwoodmac-uk.com/artwork/bootleg_artwork.html

And if anyone has any artwork that can be posted or wishes to lend a hand on the page (search, nagavitional help) that would be great.


Let's get sharing Fleetwood Mac and related lossless files

[HomerMcvie]

So i shouldn't even bother with dial up...................
The download rate has adjusted some, and it now says 60 hours. Still,...........looks like I won't be shutting this thing down for a few days! :shrug:

[nodmod]

I have broadband but it seems to be going a bit faster now. I'm about a third of the way there.
These are the first bit torrent files I've downloaded. Once they're done, how do I burn them? Can I use Easy CD Creator? What is the file extension for DVD's?



Are you D/L'ing the Tusk DVD? if so the files come down as native DVD files (Video_TS folder) so this is all that needed to burn direct to DVD via Nero or other DVD burning software apps.

[gldstwmn]

Are you D/L'ing the Tusk DVD? if so the files come down as native DVD files (Video_TS folder) so this is all that needed to burn direct to DVD via Nero or other DVD burning software apps.

I'm D/Ling Tusk and Center Stage. :thumbsup:

[AliceLover]

I am really confused.

I downloadd a bit torrent program successfully and it connected to the program successfully and was downloading very slowly before i went ot bed last night. When i came back i had a message that said couldnt connect or something.


jimmy

[nodmod]

For the bit torrent newbies you may wish to check out the Lindsey Buckingham ABC in Concert audio files which are only 126mb in total size. THis torreent is posted at the following urlhttp://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?returnto=%2Faccount-cp.php&id=7688

Lindsey Buckingham - ABC In Concert 1992

Hosted by Sara Jessica Parker, Lindsey sings live and acoustic and talks about his latest solo album (Out Of The Cradle) and his departure from Fleetwood Mac.

1. Intro
2. Countdown
3. Commercial - Dialogue
4. Never Going Back Again
5. Commercial
6. Street Of Dreams Interview
7. This Nearly Was Mine - Street Of Dreams
8. Commercial
9. Interview
10. Soul Drifter
11. Outro


Audio ripped from DVD which I believe was recorded from VHS tape which in turn was recorded direct from TV. Audio Linage: DVD -> WAV -> Soundforge to split tracks -> WAV -> SHN

The files are complete and include silences from source tape, no segments have been removed or edited. This is the audio rip of the complete recording.


If you are downloading the Lindsey audio torrent, these files are in compressed SHN (shorten) file format and they will need re-compiling (see below)

Info below regarding torrent music downloads in flac or shn format

You need to download a Bit Torrent (BT) program
- http://bittornado.com/

Find your show you want and download the torrent file.
- http://bt.easytree.org


When you click on the file the D/L should start using the above bit tornado client

Check your firewalls so not to block the port !

After download you should have the shn / flac and a md5 file

The files if flac or shn will need to be re-compilied via a recompile software program

Download a shn re-complier "MKW Audio Compression"
- http://www.etree.org/software.html

Or FLAC re-complier "Flac Frontend"
- http://mikewren.com/flac/

Click on the MD5 file to verify the downloaded files then drop the source files (if SHN) in the MKW Audio Compression to output wav files.
If FLAC drop the FLAC files into Flac Frontend

And voila you have lossless wav files that can be burnt to CDR via Nero.


Let's get sharing Fleetwood Mac and related lossless files

[77Rumours77]

235 Hours to go!!!!!! ;) :laugh: :eek:

[estranged4life]

I am currently unable to participate with lossless sharing, Cause I am transferring everything I have to DVD-R with great results & no detectable loss from the source/master disc/tape/etc. (One of the reasons I spent $349.99 for the premium DVD-R/DVD-RAM burner I purchased.) and I wouldnt mind sharing the collection of shows I have.

Brian j.

ps-Hey Neil, I emailed ya awhile back about a possible trade...

[MacMan]

Hey Brian,

Did you buy one of those Panasonic dvd players/recorders? If so, I'm just curious how you find it, and are you able to transfer what's on vhs or other dvd's and record it onto another dvd-r? I've been thinking about buying one myself, and looked around on the net to see if there was info... Found alot of info on how you can record from tv and so forth and watch while it's recording, but nothing that says you can record from tape or dvd to dvd-r... I'm sure you can, but just thought I'd ask just to make sure.

Thanks.

[estranged4life]

Hey Brian,

Did you buy one of those Panasonic dvd players/recorders? If so, I'm just curious how you find it, and are you able to transfer what's on vhs or other dvd's and record it onto another dvd-r? I've been thinking about buying one myself, and looked around on the net to see if there was info... Found alot of info on how you can record from tv and so forth and watch while it's recording, but nothing that says you can record from tape or dvd to dvd-r... I'm sure you can, but just thought I'd ask just to make sure.

Thanks.

I think it is worth the $$$ because I can now transfer my VHS tapes to DVD-R with ease (I have transferred even officially release VHS tapes with ease...Only 1 thus far was protected by 'copyright protection' and thus was unrecordable).

I have also tried to make copies of DVD-R's from my regular DVD player to my burner and found no problems what-so-ever, But you cannot make DVD-R copies of officially released DVD's (They're coded with copyright protection).

I also tried recorded a TV show from the TV directly to DVD-R and found the shows can looks great depending on what speed you record at. The best speed is XP (1 hour) which is the equivalent of SP on a VC, But much-much clearer & crisper. The system I bought also allows you to watch a show that you're recording from the beginning even as you currently record it, I havent tried it yet but I will soon...

The Panasonic DMR-E55 DVD recorder also plays DVD-A's and gives you an option to make the vocals more prominent with the "Emphasis" feature on the "Settings", Which makes for some quite cool sounding discs.


Definitely worth what I paid for it...

Brian j.

[Jagarcia]

I think it's great that someone started sharing dvd's through bittorrent and I hope more people learn how to handle torrents so more dvd's might be shared. BTW i'll be seeding the tusk dvd for some days if somebody hasn't got it yet.

[MacMan]

Thanks alot Brian... That was alot of help... :)

[HomerMcvie]

I am currently closer than I've ever been to figuring out this BT stuff. This is like the fifth time I've tried. :distress: At least it LOOKS like I might be successful in about another 60 hours. If I'm not, just listen for the scream heard round the world. :cool:
I'm feeling technically challenged.......

[77Rumours77]

I think it's great that someone started sharing dvd's through bittorrent and I hope more people learn how to handle torrents so more dvd's might be shared. BTW i'll be seeding the tusk dvd for some days if somebody hasn't got it yet.

Thanks :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Have you seen this?? Is it worth the download?? :confused:

[MacMan]

I am currently closer than I've ever been to figuring out this BT stuff. This is like the fifth time I've tried. At least it LOOKS like I might be successful in about another 60 hours. If I'm not, just listen for the scream heard round the world.

Just download it - you can figure it out afterwards... If you able to download that's pretty much half the battle won. That's what I did when I first was trying to figure it out. It took me a whole weekend to wrap my brain around all the instructions... and I know it all sounds confusing, but it's really quite simple when you have the right tools and kind of neat frankly. The reason it's slow is there must not be many people seeding the discs... meaning as you are downloading you are uploading at the same time to others... If you cancel the download once you've got what you need... then it takes you out of the download/upload pool that provides others with the sessions. That's why it's important and pretty much a rule that if you download something of this nature, it's common courtesy to upload the same amount for others. Keeps things flowing and more people can take advantage of it.

I just kept using google and searching bit torrent instructions and read as much as possible to get a consensus on what to do...

[Jagarcia]

Thanks :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Have you seen this?? Is it worth the download?? :confused:

Not yet but I'm really looking forward to it. Anyway it's Fleetwood Mac stuff and in dvd and in Eztorrent, so is definetely worth the download. :)

[MacMan]

There are other torrent downloads of Fleetwood Mac if anyone is interested at www.suprnova.org It's mainly, or all actually, commercial releases.

Just do a search at the top of the page.

[gldstwmn]

Just download it - you can figure it out afterwards... If you able to download that's pretty much half the battle won. That's what I did when I first was trying to figure it out. It took me a whole weekend to wrap my brain around all the instructions... and I know it all sounds confusing, but it's really quite simple when you have the right tools and kind of neat frankly. The reason it's slow is there must not be many people seeding the discs... meaning as you are downloading you are uploading at the same time to others... If you cancel the download once you've got what you need... then it takes you out of the download/upload pool that provides others with the sessions. That's why it's important and pretty much a rule that if you download something of this nature, it's common courtesy to upload the same amount for others. Keeps things flowing and more people can take advantage of it.

I just kept using google and searching bit torrent instructions and read as much as possible to get a consensus on what to do...

So I just finished the ABC download...now I'm seeding it, according to BitTornado. However, I can't seem to find the files. Where are they? :laugh:

[MacMan]

Try one of the folders that the bit torrent possibly created underneath that folder.... It's there. It will be called "Lindsey Buckingham - ABC In Concert" exactly like that... a yellow folder.

[MacMan]

You'll need this program to verify the download.

http://home.att.net/~mkw/mkwact.html

[HomerMcvie]

Why does this **** have to be so $%^&ing hard to figure out????
Obviously this was not designed for the average computer user. :rolleyes:

[gldstwmn]

Why does this **** have to be so $%^&ing hard to figure out????
Obviously this was not designed for the average computer user. :rolleyes:

Dude, tell me about it. :lol:

[gldstwmn]

Try one of the folders that the bit torrent possibly created underneath that folder.... It's there. It will be called "Lindsey Buckingham - ABC In Concert" exactly like that... a yellow folder.

Got 'em. Thanks!

[gldstwmn]

Okay, now mkwACT won't download onto my computer. Suggestions anyone?

[face of glass]

Okay, now mkwACT won't download onto my computer. Suggestions anyone?
Simplest solution: get dBPowerAmp converter (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm) and install that. Then get the Shorten and FLAC codecs (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm) and install those. That way you should have a nice shortcut when you highlight those .shn-files and right-click them.

[face of glass]

...to my knowledge only the following Fleetwood Mac shows have been posted (please correct me if I am wrong):
Got it almost right; Green Bay 2004 and East Rutherford 1997 (the better source) came from Sharing The Groove and the rest from Easytree.

Some others I remember seeing:
Warehouse, New Orleans 1-30-1970 & 1-31-1970 (single torrent) at Easytree.
Who's The New Girl (without "Get Like You Used To Be") at STG.
Shine Angel (1979-11-6) at STG.
Record Plant 1974 & Passaic 1975 (single torrent) at STG.
Stevie: Weedsport 1986 (FM broadcast) at Easytree.
Peter Green: Wilbert's, Cleveland 8-27-1998 (and a few others) at STG.

Nothing really unusual there, only Nagoya 1977 and perhaps the two post Green pre-BN shows would count as discoveries of sorts. And most have come from people who don't even have any large-scale interest in Fleetwood Mac, I assume.
Let's get sharing Fleetwood Mac and related lossless files
Easier said than done Neil. We all know the quality of the trade CD-Rs in this community is not always up to scratch; there's diginoise and other burning mistakes that plague them. That material isn't seed-worthy because some people (not necessarily the most ardent fans) will always be complaining because of the mistakes that weren't in the original recording. I have this great-sounding copy (one of the best audience recordings) from 11-2-1979 Albuquerque lossless, however there's some skipping at the beginning of "I'm So Afraid", so I won't be seeding it; there's gotta be someone with a flawless copy out there.
Now why should one care about that? Simply because the trade communities of other bands do. They attempt to take away any flaws that weren't there originally from the recording before they start seeding. The best way is to find some low-generation tapes and re-digitize those.

Also, stuff that's mp3-sourced but has been burnt to discs just like normal audio files can trick people sometimes. You need to check out for those files in a spectral analyser, there's no way to tell the difference otherwise, especially if the bitrate of those faux-wavs is high.

But yeah, I'll be seeding a little something in the future too, the little that I can offer.

[face of glass]

Okay, now mkwACT won't download onto my computer. Suggestions anyone?
Oh, and you were probably asking for something to verify those files with as well. The quickest one to use for downloaders would be MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org/). Just choose the correct root folder which contains the .md5-file and then it will verify every file in that folder.

[estranged4life]

Easier said than done Neil. We all know the quality of the trade CD-Rs in this community is not always up to scratch; there's diginoise and other burning mistakes that plague them. That material isn't seed-worthy because some people (not necessarily the most ardent fans) will always be complaining because of the mistakes that weren't in the original recording.

Now why should one care about that? Simply because the trade communities of other bands do. They attempt to take away any flaws that weren't there originally from the recording before they start seeding. The best way is to find some low-generation tapes and re-digitize those.



with ya there...As of late I haven't traded any FM (Or solo related) material lately because it is a pain-in-the-ass having to check for errors/mistakes/etc. because when ya try to pass the music off to those who are not the most 'die-hard' for the FM material they ALWAYS complain why the recordings suck major happy ass when compared to other artists' material.

Some of the best 2003-2004 shows have come from tapers who do not primarily collect FM shows/material/etc., Because they have mastered their art recording other artists and have usually done FM as an afterthought.

I have had trade offers as of late for more audio tapes of past Hard-To-Find (Mainly 1975-1989) FM shows (And related solo material) but have (Thus far) passed on the opportunity because it is too damn time consuming to have to listen through a tape for errors before you burn it to disc so as not to contaminate the trading circles with YET another error filled recording.

Brian j.

[gldstwmn]

Oh, and you were probably asking for something to verify those files with as well. The quickest one to use for downloaders would be MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org/). Just choose the correct root folder which contains the .md5-file and then it will verify every file in that folder.

Thanks Gaius. :woohoo:

[gldstwmn]

Got it to work. That ABC show sounds great. Thank you so much! :wavey:

[face of glass]

...it is too damn time consuming to have to listen through a tape for errors before you burn it to disc so as not to contaminate the trading circles with YET another error filled recording.
I suppose it wouldn't surprise you Brian that the one show I'm considering torrenting is the copy of 8-31-1980 Hollywood Bowl that you sent me a while ago. The recording isn't the best quality (although still pretty good when compared to most of the audience recordings from that tour); however it's error-free and tracked like it should be.

Oh, and those end-of-the-tour shows were just amazing. Enough of a reason for me to put that up, sometime this week I think.

[77Rumours77]

wasnt that show really sped up towards the end???
I really think you should seed that show! It would be great.

[77Rumours77]

Two question..


1. Does anyone know how to seed a show that I have just finished downloading??

2. Does anyone know how to seed a show that I can upload??

Thanks ;)

[pixiedust]

Hello..would anyone be interested in making a copy of the tusk rehersal for me..I am totally at a loss when it comes to computers and downloading stuff!!! Thanks :)

[Alison]

I was wondering if someone would seed "Destiny Rules" doc. I can't get it out where I live. Is it wrong of me asking.
Also. I have a cd burner, is it possible to burn these files on a cd and be able to play them in a dvd player?

[HomerMcvie]

I was wondering if someone would seed "Destiny Rules" doc. I can't get it out where I live.
Best Buy has it for $25.

[gldstwmn]

Hello..would anyone be interested in making a copy of the tusk rehersal for me..I am totally at a loss when it comes to computers and downloading stuff!!!

After reading some of the above posts, what makes you think any of us are any better at it than you? :laugh:
If you're not on dial up, read some of the more experienced's posts and give it a whirl. :thumbsup:

[pixiedust]

the reason I posted that was after attempting to download it since it was first posted with no luck I just finally gave up..this was my first time posting anything here and just thought I would ask..sorry

[larg]

I really appreciate your doing this for all of us fans... I've completely downloaded the LB Center Stage and In Concert, and I've left them open for people as well... Tusk Rehearsal is at about 50%, and probably just needs another day or two to complete and yes, I'll also keep that open. I just wish I had some VHS or DVD to offer people through this fantastic way to share... unfortunately, I'm just beginning to create a video/dvd collection.
Is there any possibility of the Rosebud documentary being posted some day in the future? Anyone have this available in somewhat good quality? I've been wanting to see this for years, but still haven't been able to... this would be a dream come true I think for LOTS of fans out there!
Thanks again,
Adam

[HomerMcvie]

After reading some of the above posts, what makes you think any of us are any better at it than you? :laugh:
If you're not on dial up, read some of the more experienced's posts and give it a whirl. :thumbsup:
Geez, I've been downloading the Tusk tour rehearsel for 32 hours(on DSL), and it STILL says I've got 36 more hours to go- and that's if I'm lucky-until a couple of hours ago, it said I still had 60 hours to go! :distress:

[MacMan]

Don't feel bad, I started mine Sunday night about midnight and I'm only at 79%.. Download rate is really low... like 7-10 and says 30 hours to go... Reason being is that there is only ONE person that is currently seeding the dvd... Meaning one person has completely downloaded and has generously left their window open for others... Everyone else scrammed!

[Alexbt]

Well, one problem I'm having is that I don't necessarily need the full quality or even the full DVD...

With bootlegs, I am often only interested in certain songs/performances and could do without the rest.

Is there anyone who has downloaded the DVDs already be willing to compress parts of them (in MPEG, MP4 or some kind of compressed format) and put them up?

[HomerMcvie]

Well, one problem I'm having is that I don't necessarily need the full quality or even the full DVD...

With bootlegs, I am often only interested in certain songs/performances and could do without the rest.

Is there anyone who has downloaded the DVDs already be willing to compress parts of them (in MPEG, MP4 or some kind of compressed format) and put them up?
Oh lord Alex, DON'T open THAT can of worms. These taper people(I'm not in that group) are crazy with their STRICT rules against signal loss of any amount. I've been through this discussion several times with them, in another band's forum. You might as well beat your head against a wall.....they've apparently signed some sort of death pact with the other tapers. They'd rather slit their wrists than even USE the phrase mp3.....
And you probably think I'm exaggerating.......I'm not.

[77Rumours77]

Oh lord Alex, DON'T open THAT can of worms. These taper people(I'm not in that group) are crazy with their STRICT rules against signal loss of any amount. I've been through this discussion several times with them, in another band's forum. You might as well beat your head against a wall.....they've apparently signed some sort of death pact with the other tapers. They'd rather slit their wrists than even USE the phrase mp3.....
And you probably think I'm exaggerating.......I'm not.
Holy **** she's right! most of these downloads will have an "agreement" before you donwload.. YOU WILL NOT CONVERT TO MP3! Its insane

[estranged4life]

I suppose it wouldn't surprise you Brian that the one show I'm considering torrenting is the copy of 8-31-1980 Hollywood Bowl that you sent me a while ago. The recording isn't the best quality (although still pretty good when compared to most of the audience recordings from that tour); however it's error-free and tracked like it should be.

Oh, and those end-of-the-tour shows were just amazing. Enough of a reason for me to put that up, sometime this week I think.

shows I transferred from tape to disc (Along with countless others) and I remember it was one of the few that had no errors even though the sound quality was lacking in the depth department (But considering the recording technology used back then it is still a miracle the show ended up being listenable)

I am reconsidering my trade offer for audio tapes of past shows...So I may trade for a few and see if I can make a few more quality shows to add to the overall mix of the FM trading circles.

Brian j.

[WelshWitchPMD]

A couple of things people should still remember: those with dial-ups shouldn't bother because the files are large,


:( That would be me. I guess that I will wait to get them on DVD.

[MacMan]

am reconsidering my trade offer for audio tapes of past shows...So I may trade for a few and see if I can make a few more quality shows to add to the overall mix of the FM trading circles.

That's a wise choice, as you are the only one that I've ever heard of in FM trading that can transfer tape to disc.

[estranged4life]

That's a wise choice, as you are the only one that I've ever heard of in FM trading that can transfer tape to disc.

and add transferring videos to DVD-R to that feat, So I stay pretty busy with trading music, So much so that I could almost retire from work & do it on a full-time basis :nod:

"Ah, the perils of Rock N Roll decadence..."

Brian j.

[face of glass]

wasnt that show really sped up towards the end???
I really think you should seed that show! It would be great.
From "Angel" onwards, yeah. However, I'm looking into pitch correction before I post it, altering the pitch about a semitone should be enough.

[estranged4life]

From "Angel" onwards, yeah. However, I'm looking into pitch correction before I post it, altering the pitch about a semitone should be enough.

correction option on my JVC burner to adjust the sound of the FM Aug.12,1980-Birmingham, AL show because it was way too slow and it made for a hilarious listen (Imagine the FM members sounding constipated...That's my description!) but now it sounds great.

I also used pitch correction to have a laugh by dropping "Edge Of Seventeen" off Stevie's "Bella Donna" release by -12% to have the vocals sounding as if they were sung by the singer Meat Loaf :lol: :nod: :lol:

Brian j.

[David]

shows I transferred from tape to disc (Along with countless others) and I remember it was one of the few that had no errors even though the sound quality was lacking in the depth department (But considering the recording technology used back then it is still a miracle the show ended up being listenable)A few months ago, I took my tape of Bowl #1, which I bought from someone in 1980, & started ripping MP3s of it. I only got through the first six songs (through Rhiannon). I heard someone else's copy of the show a few years ago, & it sounded very similar in sound quality to mine.

Many years ago, I posted a request to traders on Usenet that we compile a giant list of tapes that people know they have a low-generation copy of (or even the original). Either most people didn't understand my request & the need for it, or they couldn't be bothered.

[David]

correction option on my JVC burner to adjust the sound of the FM Aug.12,1980-Birmingham, AL show because it was way too slow and it made for a hilarious listen (Imagine the FM members sounding constipated...That's my description!) but now it sounds great.But sometimes -- as in Cologne -- they played mighty slow. As long as your "Chain" is in E minor, you're on pitch.

[gldstwmn]

Don't feel bad, I started mine Sunday night about midnight and I'm only at 79%.. Download rate is really low... like 7-10 and says 30 hours to go... Reason being is that there is only ONE person that is currently seeding the dvd... Meaning one person has completely downloaded and has generously left their window open for others... Everyone else scrammed!

I'll leave mine open for a while. They're finished now.

[Jagarcia]

Here is the artwork I made for the Tusk DVD, I hope you like it. :)

[nodmod]

Here is the artwork I made for the Tusk DVD, I hope you like it. :)

Fantastic thanks for that, if it's OK with you I will add it to the artwork archive and I believe that someone had requested artwork over at easytree, maybe you wanna post it there also. Cheers

[Jagarcia]

Fantastic thanks for that, if it's OK with you I will add it to the artwork archive and I believe that someone had requested artwork over at easytree, maybe you wanna post it there also. Cheers

Please add it to the artwork archive is the least I can do for you, after what you have done for everyone. Thanks!

[glitter_fades]

Thanks, Neil, for getting these out on the torrents. I wish I was more experienced at prepping seeds. I'm going to work on that as soon as I finish more dvd conversions.

Like Brian, I've been converting a lot of VHS tapes to dvd with mixed results. What I really need is better source tapes for a lot of these shows. The Lindsey ABC in Concert is one of the few I took myself directly from TV. I wish I had more like that, now that I have the ability to convert.

Anyone out there with good VHS tapes, 1st generation you made yourself, or clear 2nd generation copies, I'd like to trade you for your tapes. I'll make you a free dvd from your tape and include another show on dvd if you can send me your source tape.

If we're going to seed these shows on the torrents and spread the love of Fleetwood Mac, we have to make the best dvds from the best tapes available. As you've read here, fans of other bands are horribly nasty about seeding less than perfect material into the trading community.

Again, if you have some good quality VHS tapes I can convert to dvd, please email me at the addy below. I'm especially interested in a good copy of the following shows I have bad copies of:

Stevie Nicks Enchanted (Woodstock 98) New York
Stevie Nicks Boston, Ma 10-12-96 (Mix 96 Mixfest)

[email protected] **(underscore between r and f)

[estranged4life]

Thanks, Neil, for getting these out on the torrents. I wish I was more experienced at prepping seeds. I'm going to work on that as soon as I finish more dvd conversions.

Like Brian, I've been converting a lot of VHS tapes to dvd with mixed results. What I really need is better source tapes for a lot of these shows. The Lindsey ABC in Concert is one of the few I took myself directly from TV. I wish I had more like that, now that I have the ability to convert.

Anyone out there with good VHS tapes, 1st generation you made yourself, or clear 2nd generation copies, I'd like to trade you for your tapes. I'll make you a free dvd from your tape and include another show on dvd if you can send me your source tape.

If we're going to seed these shows on the torrents and spread the love of Fleetwood Mac, we have to make the best dvds from the best tapes available. As you've read here, fans of other bands are horribly nasty about seeding less than perfect material into the trading community.


are first generation tapes that I traded for (Most, if not all of 'em, came from North of the border from a trader who always passes 'em on to me...We are both sticklers for quality!) and are the best quality since I used them sparingly to make copies (A good idea is to make a copy of a VHS tape that you will intend to use for trades and keep your master put away, I did that with all my shows except the first 3 2003 shows...Which I will soon be replacing.)

Hopefully after I get these copied & traded (Currently finishing the July 17,2003-Anaheim show) someone will post 'em on a torent site so they can be freely traded (I need to purchase some DVD-RAM discs so I can edit files into correct chapters and add interactive menus.)

Brian j.

[HomerMcvie]

Okay, now that I've downloaded this (about 65 hours), HOW do I view it?
Thanks

[MacMan]

the player I use to view things on my computer... and I haven't found a file type it hasn't played yet... especially with these types of downloads. It's called:

vlc media player - and here's the link to a free download:

vlc media player (http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=vlc+media+player&tg=dl-2001)

Hope that helps ya :)

[purplehaze]

OK, I downloaded the files - what the bloomin' heck do I do now !!! Do I have to burn them to disc before I can play/view them ? I haven't a clue, folks and would really appreciate some help ! :sorry: Once that's sorted, how do I then share them with everyone else ... Apologies for being a doofus ...
Lisa x

[HomerMcvie]

OK, I downloaded the files - what the bloomin' heck do I do now !!! Do I have to burn them to disc before I can play/view them ? I haven't a clue, folks and would really appreciate some help ! :sorry: Once that's sorted, how do I then share them with everyone else ... Apologies for being a doofus ...
Lisa x
Welcome to my world! :laugh: I can't get anything to play them either.
I "think" as far as sharing them, that you have to start your Bit Torrent program, then others have access. I'm not 100% sure about that, though.

Is anyone viewing these? And with WHAT viewer??? Yes, I downloaded the vlc one, and still can't get them to play. :shocked: :shrug:

[MacMan]

Okay, if you downloaded the vlc player and they still don't work, then you must be doing something wrong.

1. Open the vlc player.

2. click on file (top left). Then "Quick Open File".

3. find the folder on your computer where you downloaded it to and then select one of the larger files sizes (if you can't see the file sizes when you find the folder, click details to display the files that way and select the file size that is huge compared to the others. It will work.

[gldstwmn]

Welcome to my world! :laugh: I can't get anything to play them either.
I "think" as far as sharing them, that you have to start your Bit Torrent program, then others have access. I'm not 100% sure about that, though.

Is anyone viewing these? And with WHAT viewer??? Yes, I downloaded the vlc one, and still can't get them to play. :shocked: :shrug:

If you don't have a DVD player on your computer, you can rip them to VCD with the tool at dvd2dvd.org. Then you can play it on your computer. Good luck. :wavey:

[Gazza]

Can you watch the first vob when it's finished downloading it or do you have to wait for the entire thing to download?

[MacMan]

You have to wait for the whole thing to download... At least that's my experience.

[purplehaze]

Okay, if you downloaded the vlc player and they still don't work, then you must be doing something wrong.

1. Open the vlc player.

2. click on file (top left). Then "Quick Open File".

3. find the folder on your computer where you downloaded it to and then select one of the larger files sizes (if you can't see the file sizes when you find the folder, click details to display the files that way and select the file size that is huge compared to the others. It will work.

:xoxo: MASSIVE hugs and kisses !
Lisa xxxxxxx

[tynan88]

Could someone please seed this file (the rehearsal), there is only one seed left now, I will seed it when I get my copy d/l, so if someone could do it now that would be greatly appreciated.

[seteca]

OMG....I burst out laughing in the middle of "I Know I'm Not Wrong"....!!! That has to be the funniest "FM moment" I have EVER seen....During the first "uh uh uh uh uh-uh", when Lindsey keeps looking over to get Stevie's attention to do the harmony part with him but she ignores him so he eventually shouts "STEVIE!!!" into the microphone in the middle of the song....LMAO!!!...and then she deliberately gives the most indifferent performance I think I have ever seen from anyone in my life....LMAO!!!!......it's brilliant.....you have to watch it to appreciate it!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[purplehaze]

Could someone please seed this file (the rehearsal), there is only one seed left now, I will seed it when I get my copy d/l, so if someone could do it now that would be greatly appreciated.

OK, of course ... I HOPE I'm doing it right ... can anyone check ? :thumbsup:
Lisa x

[purplehaze]

OMG....I burst out laughing in the middle of "I Know I'm Not Wrong"....!!! That has to be the funniest "FM moment" I have EVER seen....During the first "uh uh uh uh uh-uh", when Lindsey keeps looking over to get Stevie's attention to do the harmony part with him but she ignores him so he eventually shouts "STEVIE!!!" into the microphone in the middle of the song....LMAO!!!...and then she deliberately gives the most indifferent performance I think I have ever seen from anyone in my life....LMAO!!!!......it's brilliant.....you have to watch it to appreciate it!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

My favourite part of the show :laugh: but this is just teasing everyone who hasn't seen it yet ... I'm seeding now !!! *fingers crossed*
Lisa x

[wondergirl9847]

Too complicated and slow. Can someone put the files up on a site or something, esp. the IKINW one?

[estranged4life]

OMG....I burst out laughing in the middle of "I Know I'm Not Wrong"....!!! That has to be the funniest "FM moment" I have EVER seen....During the first "uh uh uh uh uh-uh", when Lindsey keeps looking over to get Stevie's attention to do the harmony part with him but she ignores him so he eventually shouts "STEVIE!!!" into the microphone in the middle of the song....LMAO!!!...and then she deliberately gives the most indifferent performance I think I have ever seen from anyone in my life....LMAO!!!!......it's brilliant.....you have to watch it to appreciate it!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I saw that earlier as I was making a DVD-R copy for a fellow Ledgie and laughed at Linds' "Stevie!" shout...Hella funny :lol:

Brian j.

[77Rumours77]

Can anybody tell me how the quality is.. or send a screen shot? I dont have a CD burner that is working till this weekend I really REALLY want it. But I dont have the space on my computer... I have 13 GB of torrent files wating to be put on CD already :shocked: :lol: :eek:
SO how is it? and is it worth the download?
thanks ya'll
Jacob

[amber]

this deoends on if you are using XP. If your using XP I can help, but if you are using something else, you'll have to contact bit tornado makers. OK, what you should do is right click the file and selct "Open With" and then hit select program from list, and then select Bit Tornado. Then after you do this any other Bit Torrent file you will download should automatically be directied to bit tornado.
Hope I could help
:thumbsup: :cool:
Acck! I can't do it! I have XP, i went to download Torrent, downloaded bittornado (is that the same thing) and then tried to open it with that, but that wasn't one of my choices for opening with...argh.

[amber]

okay, i'm getting really pissed off, cause it's like i can almost do it... :mad:
It keeps saying permission denied. Did i save torrent and tusk to the wrong place or something? Damn my dumb-ocity! Gaw, it really makes me want to slap somebody down! And throw wine in their face! :mad: :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

okay, i'm getting really pissed off, cause it's like i can almost do it... :mad:
It keeps saying permission denied. Did i save torrent and tusk to the wrong place or something? Damn my dumb-ocity! Gaw, it really makes me want to slap somebody down! And throw wine in their face! :mad: :lol:
It's not just you AMber. I can't get this stuff to work either.
:(

[amber]

It's not just you AMber. I can't get this stuff to work either.
:(
Can anyone help us? I'll ask a couple specific questions: When I went to the website link to download torrent (?) first, it actually only had bittornado. Is that the same thing? If not, where on that link do i find Torrent? Also, if I do happen to download it, does it matter where I save it to? And if I do manage to download and save it to the proper place, when I download the Tusk rehearsal, do I have to save THAT to a certain place?
Any other advice besides answering these questions is very, very, welcome.
AMber

[MacMan]

I use bitcomet to download torrent files

Download.com (http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=bitComet&tg=dl-2001&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=+Go%21+)

And you'll need this little program to verify after you have downloaded

Md5sum (http://www.etree.org/md5com.html)

Download the bitcomet and the md5sum program to your desk top (it's easier to find them) Then install them to your program file on your computer.

Then go to etree and find the torrent you want to download... Click on the first torrent link which will take you to another page describing what the torrent is. Click on the actual torrent link and your computer will probably say something like "your computer doesn't know what program to use to open the file"... Select browse and find the bitcomet program that you downloaded and installed in your program file and click on it. This should start the download. Then all you have to do is wait out the long process of the download, which for me on the Tusk doc. took 2 and a half days!!

Once you've downloaded it. There will be a md5sum icon in the file folder where you downloaded it to. (You can select any folder you want to downloaded it to... probably best to create a seperate on). Right click on the md5sum and you will see an option that says "verify". Click it... and let the program do it's work. After it is finished, and everything checks out... you are finished to do what ever you want with it.

To watch it on your computer... I use the VLC Media Player cause it plays any type of file... You can get that as well for free here. VLC Media Player (http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=vlc+media+player&tg=dl-20&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=+Go%21+)

When you download and install this media player... Open it up... Click on file on the top left hand side... Click on "Quick Open" and find the folder where you downloaded the torrent file. Select one of the files and you should be able to watch it on your computer... I can no problem...

Burning it to a dvd... Someone else will have to help you out with that... I haven't gotten that far yet... lol

Hope some of this info helps you out.

[77Rumours77]

Can anyone help us? I'll ask a couple specific questions: When I went to the website link to download torrent (?) first, it actually only had bittornado. Is that the same thing? If not, where on that link do i find Torrent? Also, if I do happen to download it, does it matter where I save it to? And if I do manage to download and save it to the proper place, when I download the Tusk rehearsal, do I have to save THAT to a certain place?
Any other advice besides answering these questions is very, very, welcome.
AMber
Im not sure if this is what you want..
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=6571
When you open the torrent file.. (bit torndao should open up automatically anyways) It will ask you to say the files to a specific place.... It shouldnt matter where you save it, Just as long as you can get to it after the download it done. Anymore help please ask.. I will be watching this thread for the next couple of days to answer any questions.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[amber]

Im not sure if this is what you want..
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=6571
When you open the torrent file.. (bit torndao should open up automatically anyways) It will ask you to say the files to a specific place.... It shouldnt matter where you save it, Just as long as you can get to it after the download it done. Anymore help please ask.. I will be watching this thread for the next couple of days to answer any questions.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ok, i already found that. I was talking about when you gave us the link to download Torrent, the program, and on that page, it only had a download for "Bittornado", not "Torrent" and i don't know if it's the same thing.
Thanks, 77

[amber]

The most important thing: KEEP THOSE TORRENTS GOING AFTER YOU'RE DONE! The fairest thing is to upload at least as much as you download, meaning that your share ratio would be 1.00. Easytree monitors its users share ratios very closely these days; if it drops below a certain point you won't be able to use the site anymore.


How do I keep it going? It's downloading right now but it says i have 50 hours still. What does seeding mean? While it's working it's showing my upload and download ratio, but I'm not sure exactly what the ratio signifies...anyway...Oh, and what number should I set as my upload rate?
Amber

[MacMan]

When you are uploading... That means you are now seeding the show (uploading for others to download). After you finish your download... it will continue to upload until YOU cancel the connection. The general rule with torrent downloads is that the amount you download is also what you should upload, so leave it going even when you are finished.

50 hours... that sounds about right.

Upload rate should be kept lower then download rate. I guess the amount depends on your download rate.

What are your download / upload rates ie: 30kbs, 40kbs or higher or lower?

[amber]

When you are uploading... That means you are now seeding the show (uploading for others to download). After you finish your download... it will continue to upload until YOU cancel the connection. The general rule with torrent downloads is that the amount you download is also what you should upload, so leave it going even when you are finished.

50 hours... that sounds about right.

Upload rate should be kept lower then download rate. I guess the amount depends on your download rate.

What are your download / upload rates ie: 30kbs, 40kbs or higher or lower?
Right now, as i'm watching it, my download rate is 55 and my upload rate is 15. However, when watching it all last night, i have never seen the two be this far apart. They were usually within 5-6 of each other. But on the place where you pick your upload number, I just went back to default. Everything seems to be going ok, says i have 16 hours left. Thank you. Ah, now my download and upload rate both went back to around 30, give or take. that is normal...

[MacMan]

Not sure of the program you are using to download with... but with mine, I can regulate the upload rate and I usually lower it or select the maximum that I want it to upload to.

Sounds like you're doing fine thou

[HomerMcvie]

AMber, you do have a DVD-rom(player) on your computer, right? I don't, and therein lies my problem. Nothing will play these vob files. So converting these vob's to Mpeg or something IS our problem. The converters that have been listed here haven't worked (at least for me). I found a converter called Xilisoft last night, which DID convert the video, but not the audio. The free download would only let you do the first 5 minutes. The pay version was $30(I think). But it didn't convert the audio, so what's the point?
I downloaded two converters off Kazaa which I'm going to give a shot today, BUT,-friends- Kazaa is getting dangerous(not just legally). Something off Kazaa erased EVERY bookmark on my computer(like 100!) last night :distress: :distress: More and more of the files are containing spyware now, too. :distress: :distress:
HOmer :)

[amber]

AMber, you do have a DVD-rom(player) on your computer, right? I don't, and therein lies my problem. Nothing will play these vob files. So converting these vob's to Mpeg or something IS our problem. The converters that have been listed here haven't worked (at least for me). I found a converter called Xilisoft last night, which DID convert the video, but not the audio. The free download would only let you do the first 5 minutes. The pay version was $30(I think). But it didn't convert the audio, so what's the point?
I downloaded two converters off Kazaa which I'm going to give a shot today, BUT,-friends- Kazaa is getting dangerous(not just legally). Something off Kazaa erased EVERY bookmark on my computer(like 100!) last night :distress: :distress: More and more of the files are containing spyware now, too. :distress: :distress:
HOmer :)
This may be a stupid question (probably is) but after I get this finished, is there a way for me to make copies of it? I mean, with my own computer...it would be nice to get to some of the non-hi speed ledgies, if they wanted it...
Thanks,
AMber

[amber]

Not sure of the program you are using to download with... but with mine, I can regulate the upload rate and I usually lower it or select the maximum that I want it to upload to.

Sounds like you're doing fine thou
but actually i don't yet understand the point of my upload and download rate being higher and lower. I mean, what is the purpose of having it one way or another?
Thanks
AMber

[MacMan]

I'm fairly new to this as well... But the way I see it is if there is 100kbs that can be handled by your machine, whether it be upload or download, or a combo of both. And you are at 50/50 (meaning 50kbs download and 50kbs upload), the download will take longer. But if you limit your upload to say 30kbs out of that 100kbs that's up for grabs... your download rate should increase by itself up to 70kbs to fill the gap, which means you will download quicker.

I could be wrong on that... but that's my understanding of it. I did read somewhere about limiting your upload rate... but not too low as what you upload is being thrown into the pool so that everyone else downloading will receive it. The thing about torrent downloads is it's not like you are connected to one person and getting it from them. You are grabbing from all the seeders that have the show still open and are seeding... but you are taking from them based on the upload rate that they have set for themselves.

[amber]

I'm fairly new to this as well... But the way I see it is if there is 100kbs that can be handled by your machine, whether it be upload or download, or a combo of both. And you are at 50/50 (meaning 50kbs download and 50kbs upload), the download will take longer. But if you limit your upload to say 30kbs out of that 100kbs that's up for grabs... your download rate should increase by itself up to 70kbs to fill the gap, which means you will download quicker.

I could be wrong on that... but that's my understanding of it. I did read somewhere about limiting your upload rate... but not too low as what you upload is being thrown into the pool so that everyone else downloading will receive it. The thing about torrent downloads is it's not like you are connected to one person and getting it from them. You are grabbing from all the seeders that have the show still open and are seeding... but you are taking from them based on the upload rate that they have set for themselves.
that was a big help. that made many things much more clear to me. thank you. guess mine's about right...

[amber]

I use bitcomet to download torrent files

Download.com (http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=bitComet&tg=dl-2001&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=+Go%21+)

And you'll need this little program to verify after you have downloaded

Md5sum (http://www.etree.org/md5com.html)

Download the bitcomet and the md5sum program to your desk top (it's easier to find them) Then install them to your program file on your computer.

Then go to etree and find the torrent you want to download... Click on the first torrent link which will take you to another page describing what the torrent is. Click on the actual torrent link and your computer will probably say something like "your computer doesn't know what program to use to open the file"... Select browse and find the bitcomet program that you downloaded and installed in your program file and click on it. This should start the download. Then all you have to do is wait out the long process of the download, which for me on the Tusk doc. took 2 and a half days!!

Once you've downloaded it. There will be a md5sum icon in the file folder where you downloaded it to. (You can select any folder you want to downloaded it to... probably best to create a seperate on). Right click on the md5sum and you will see an option that says "verify". Click it... and let the program do it's work. After it is finished, and everything checks out... you are finished to do what ever you want with it.

To watch it on your computer... I use the VLC Media Player cause it plays any type of file... You can get that as well for free here. VLC Media Player (http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=vlc+media+player&tg=dl-20&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=+Go%21+)

When you download and install this media player... Open it up... Click on file on the top left hand side... Click on "Quick Open" and find the folder where you downloaded the torrent file. Select one of the files and you should be able to watch it on your computer... I can no problem...

Burning it to a dvd... Someone else will have to help you out with that... I haven't gotten that far yet... lol

Hope some of this info helps you out.
The Md5sum I downloaded does not have a "verify" when i right click. And I got VCL media player, but it won't play it. yes, i am frustrated and pissed.

[MacMan]

Hmmm.....

Did you finish downloading the dvd and it says it did it succesfully?

And did you install the md5sum?

And did you go to the file folder where you downloaded the dvd to - and did you see a md5sum icon (it says md5 on it)? If you do see it that's the File Integrity Signature List. You right click on that which in the pop up should say at the very top "verify" and you click it - which should start the verification of the file. Once that's done and it does it with no problems, then you should be fine.

If you've done all that and you've also installed VLC... open the Media Player, go to file in the top left and click "Quick Open" and locate the folder that contains the dvd. View the files in the "details" mode so you can see the file sizes... chose one of the larger files... there should be a bunch of them as vob files.. select one of those to open and it should work... if it doesn't then you must have installed something wrong.

[amber]

Hmmm.....

Did you finish downloading the dvd and it says it did it succesfully?

And did you install the md5sum?

And did you go to the file folder where you downloaded the dvd to - and did you see a md5sum icon (it says md5 on it)? If you do see it that's the File Integrity Signature List. You right click on that which in the pop up should say at the very top "verify" and you click it - which should start the verification of the file. Once that's done and it does it with no problems, then you should be fine.

If you've done all that and you've also installed VLC... open the Media Player, go to file in the top left and click "Quick Open" and locate the folder that contains the dvd. View the files in the "details" mode so you can see the file sizes... chose one of the larger files... there should be a bunch of them as vob files.. select one of those to open and it should work... if it doesn't then you must have installed something wrong.
ok, i did that, but my md5sum does not have a verify...crap! thanks, macman.
I'll try to reinstall, or something...i'm so frustrated right now, i want to stop, yet i am obsessed, too. bad combo.
much love
Amber

[MacMan]

Where did you download the md5summer to? Which folder? Or did you download it to your desktop?

Go to it, not the one that came with the download, and double click to open it. It should open a little window with a listing of your folders on your computer and at the bottom of the little window are 3 options: "Create sums" "Verify Sums" and "About". Locate your download and try it that way.

Or tell me this. when you finished downloading the Tusk Doc., tell me the names of the file folders that were downloaded. List them out here. Maybe I can help that way.

[amber]

Where did you download the md5summer to? Which folder? Or did you download it to your desktop?

Go to it, not the one that came with the download, and double click to open it. It should open a little window with a listing of your folders on your computer and at the bottom of the little window are 3 options: "Create sums" "Verify Sums" and "About". Locate your download and try it that way.

Or tell me this. when you finished downloading the Tusk Doc., tell me the names of the file folders that were downloaded. List them out here. Maybe I can help that way.
I don't understand what you mean when you say, "go to it, not the one that came with the download" but, either one i double click, they do not open a little window with a listing of my folders on my computer...
Thank you, though
Amber

[77Rumours77]

I finally started my download but its gonna take 100 hours :eek: :eek:
WTF!
LOL, I guess I will have to wait.
I use nero, Can I make this a VCD? or SVCD?

[MacMan]

Okay Amber... Download this md5sum to your desk top. It's a zip file. When you download the zip file to your desk top. double click on it and extract the md5sum to your programs file.

Latest version 1.2.0.5
Released 28-Sep-2003
Normal ZIP format.
Size: 387KB

md5sum - zip file (http://www.md5summer.org/download.html)

This is the little program I believe you are looking for. I just tried to download the md5sum from etree - that was posted in a previous post... and it didn't work for me either.

Question: Do you have an icon (in the downloaded foler) that came with the dvd download that says md5 anywhere??

[amber]

Okay Amber... Download this md5sum to your desk top. It's a zip file. When you download the zip file to your desk top. double click on it and extract the md5sum to your programs file.

Latest version 1.2.0.5
Released 28-Sep-2003
Normal ZIP format.
Size: 387KB

md5sum - zip file (http://www.md5summer.org/download.html)

This is the little program I believe you are looking for. I just tried to download the md5sum from etree - that was posted in a previous post... and it didn't work for me either.

Question: Do you have an icon (in the downloaded foler) that came with the dvd download that says md5 anywhere??
Yes, one of them does say that it says: FM-Tusk Rehearsal,etc, MD5 file. Why?

[amber]

ok, i've gotten my first glimpses... a magnificent audio of Storms which was so heartbreakingly beautiful...then video and audio of say you love me... :]
Also wanna give a big shout to everyone on this thread for helping me...and to hot chocolate on rainy night... :wavey:
ok, the chain is starting..it's all mellow and jamm-ie
Amber

[HomerMcvie]

And did you install the md5sum?
When I click on md5sum, it QUICKLY flashes a window, then disappears (it flashes SO quickly that all I can read is md5 in the corner).
I need to convert all these vob files to Mpeg or AVI, right? If so, how please?
I don't have a DVD-rom.
:shrug:

[nodmod]

I see that a Stevie Nicks Gypsy Master Reel to Reel has now been posted over at easytree http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=12340

Fleetwood Mac - Gypsy 24 Track Reel 4/5/1980 (ape)


Tracks:
01 Gypsy #1
02 Gypsy #2
03 Studio Chatter #1
04 Gypsy #3
05 Studio Chatter #2
06 Gypsy #4

Total Time 14:18

Other files:
Fleetwood Mac Gypsy 24 Track Reel.sfv
Fleetwood Mac Gypsy 24 Track Reel.txt

[TwistedGypsy]

OK, Sorry that I'm slow jumping on this bandwagon. But after 3 days, it finally downloaded sucessfully. I used BitTornado. Then I downloaded the VLC player and I can't get it to play. I've gone through all the posts in this thread trying to figure it out and here I am asking for help. :distress:
What now...
Brit

[amber]

OK, Sorry that I'm slow jumping on this bandwagon. But after 3 days, it finally downloaded sucessfully. I used BitTornado. Then I downloaded the VLC player and I can't get it to play. I've gone through all the posts in this thread trying to figure it out and here I am asking for help. :distress:
What now...
Brit
Welcome to my world. However, it did play. Is there any way to describe your problem in more detail? Mine ended up playing on the regular windvd4 that was on my computer, even though i downloaded VCL. I mean, you found where it's saved and tried to open it and nothing (?) happened? nothing at all?

[TwistedGypsy]

Well what I said is pretty much it. I Open Quick File on VCL player find the file click it and nothing. Or I right click the FM file then click Open With and click open with VCL player and nothing.
:distress: Brit

[amber]

Well what I said is pretty much it. I Open Quick File on VLC player find the file click it and nothing. Or I right click the FM file then click Open With and click open with VLC player and nothing.
:distress: Brit
okay, that was happening to me, to. did you get that Sum5 thing?

[TwistedGypsy]

I do believe I downloaded that, but it didn't work. I'll try it again.
Brit

[amber]

I do believe I downloaded that, but it didn't work. I'll try it again.
Brit
okay, that's what happened to me. Is there a Tusk file that says "midsum5 file" on it? (or something like midsum5)

[TwistedGypsy]

NO. I downloaded it again, and it takes like a split second and then when i go to the file where it was downloaded to, it flashes a window but nothing.
Brit

[amber]

NO. I downloaded it again, and it takes like a split second and then when i go to the file where it was downloaded to, it flashes a window but nothing.
Brit
okay, and the actual Tusk download from Bittorrent doesn't say midsum5 file. Okay, take a deep breath (I got very frustrated when spending 2 evenings trying to figure the whole thing out) but i remember that the md5 that i downloaded to my desktop never opened, just the one in the folder, then i got it to verify the Tusk file. But in the end, I just went to the dowloaded file wherever i had saved it, and it played with my regular win4dvd player. I'm sorry, i don't think i can help you unless i am on my home computer where all this took place (i am at work). :distress: I will check back then, and hopefully some nice person can help you in the meantime.

[TwistedGypsy]

Thanks for everything.
Brit

[amber]

Thanks for everything.
Brit
:lol: :lol: you mean thanks for nothing? sorry, dear. :distress: It's hard for me to remember. Also, I don't think it's necessarily everything i did that made it play. :p But sesly, if you're still having trouble later when i get home i'll bust that sh** out. I think i mainly did everything on this thread...

[TwistedGypsy]

Well I'll be here still pulling my hair out over this damn thing!
Thanks again, Brit

[amber]

Well I'll be here still pulling my hair out over this damn thing!
Thanks again, Brit
I know, i had to take a break and chill out with it. I was seething for awhile there. Maybe i should just make you a dvd. Do you have a new computer, or an older one?

[TwistedGypsy]

Well now I have uninstalled BitTornado and now I'm downloading it with BitComet. So look for me to be asking for help in the next 2-3 days.
So far I have 0.1% downloaded. I'm on my way!
Brit :wavey:

[HomerMcvie]

Well now I have uninstalled BitTornado and now I'm downloading it with BitComet. So look for me to be asking for help in the next 2-3 days.
So far I have 0.1% downloaded. I'm on my way!
Brit :wavey:
Hi Brit, I got to EXACTLY where you are, and finally gave up. If you figure it out, PLEASE let me know! :wavey:

[David]

Hi Brit, I got to EXACTLY where you are, and finally gave up. If you figure it out, PLEASE let me know! :wavey:
I wonder whether this new technology will take -- or I guess the question is "when?" Dozens of people seem to have a lot of trouble with it. I myself have avoided it, but I'll probably check it out at some point in the future.

[HomerMcvie]

I wonder whether this new technology will take -- or I guess the question is "when?" Dozens of people seem to have a lot of trouble with it. I myself have avoided it, but I'll probably check it out at some point in the future.
Well, I think? it's mainly a problem for us with older machines. Mine's almost 4 years old, and doesn't have a DVD burner, or even player. But, I've upgraded it to 100 gig hard drive, so I'm milking it as long as possible.
But, it seems like those with players/burners haven't had nearly as many problems.

[estranged4life]

I wonder whether this new technology will take -- or I guess the question is "when?" Dozens of people seem to have a lot of trouble with it. I myself have avoided it, but I'll probably check it out at some point in the future.

have totally avoided it because I prefer to make DVD-R copies with my Panasonic DMR-E55 stand alone burner instead of waiting hours upon hours for a show to load (More power to those who have the patience for it though)

Myabe one of these days I will check it out more thoroughly...

Brian j.

[amber]

have totally avoided it because I prefer to make DVD-R copies with my Panasonic DMR-E55 stand alone burner instead of waiting hours upon hours for a show to load (More power to those who have the patience for it though)

Myabe one of these days I will check it out more thoroughly...

Brian j.
well, i don't just sit there while it's downloading for 2 days.... :laugh:

[TwistedGypsy]

I will say this, if anyone decides to download I would use the BitComet. I think the program is better laid out and it doesn't seem to be taking as long as the BitTornado. But at only 27.7 % downloaded I still have a 'real long way to go'.
Brit

[MacMan]

Even thou the wait can seem forever, it all depends on how many people are seeding it. That really determines how quickly you download it. It's actually a pretty popular way to download - and it's lossless. If you check out suprnova.org you can see the number of torrent files available and how many people have downloaded certain things. Movies are pretty popular. But the files can be huge.

[glitter_fades]

well, i don't just sit there while it's downloading for 2 days.... :laugh:

I don't either. I can still surf or check email or do wordprocessing. I certainly can't burn anything but that's about the only limitation. I'm on cable so I have a broadband pipeline going in and out. The only thing that rules out doing torrents is being on dial up. Trying to do torrents on dialup is a huge waste of time unless you have patience and don't mind if it takes a week or more to get something. As far as the speed, yes, it's mostly a function of how many people are seeding (allowing the show to be taken from their machine.) What makes these things take longer is only having a few seeders and everyone else shutting the torrent file off after they get it downloaded. Once you have something saved you are supposed to leave it open for others to take from you. A lot of users don't do that enough. You can also look at the Torrent Trackers to see if there are more seeders than leechers. I like to jump on after shows are out there a little while, but not too long after the torrent is first seeded. That way there are more people who have the file downloaded but everyone hasn't shut theirs down yet. The best thing everyone can do is stay open at least a day after you get something so others can get it too.

[MacMan]

The best thing everyone can do is stay open at least a day after you get something so others can get it too.

I think the general rule is that you upload the same amount as you download - and don't stop until that's complete. Obviously that doesn't happen, but hopefully people take it into mind, cause it's not like mp3's that are sitting there to be D/L, there's got to be co-operation from all downloading.

[ricohv]

Yikes- I can't figure this new sh*t out! I can't even figure out these replies, let alone get through reading half of them for this post alone! And at this point no one will probably even see mine ... so what's my point? :shocked: Ummm, I did go to that site, and I would love to see those Tusk rehearsals. Can any technophiles do the lengthy download of this stuff and just post it somewhere for the technophobes to quickly download? I know I know...I'm asking someone else to do all the work, but couldya wouldya??!?
Hopelessly technologically disabled,
Ricoh

[TwistedGypsy]

Your not the only one who can't figure this shiznit out!
Ok, Its downloaded to BitComet and I went to md5summer.org to download something ( but i don't know excatly what ). Anyways I have the VCL Player downloaded but for some reason unknown to me I can't view it.
For the love of God will someone HELP ME before I throw this computer across the room. :mad:
Brit

[ricohv]

Brit- DON'T THROW YOUR COMPUTER!!! Just join me in begging someone else to figure out all the technical business and then post it on some site where we can do a regular simple download. Can't that be done? Can this stuff ONLY be viewed if you spend three days downloading it and then download all this other stuff to view it? Why must I suffer for being somewhat computer illiterate? Others are suffering because they only have dial up connections? It's not fair.....
Ricoh

[TwistedGypsy]

Well life isn't fair as I have so graciously found out recentely found out, but I digress. And I've been trying to get this figured out for almost a week and I'm not giving up now.
Brit

[MacMan]

If you've downloaded the VLC player... that's good.

Open the player - it will look very small, almost like it's the tool bar only.

Go to "file"

Go to "quick view" and find the folder where you down the dvd.

Once you've done that. change the way you view all the files in the folder so that you can see the size of each file (click details up top in the window to do this) and select one of the larger file sizes... this should work to watch it.

the md5summer - if you go to the folder where you downloaded the dvd and right click on the first file, you should see something in the pop up window that says "verify" you want to verify all the files first before you can view them.

If you've downloaded the dvd... that's the biggest part, you just need the proper tools to work with it.

Hopefully some of that helps you.

[face of glass]

I wonder whether this new technology will take -- or I guess the question is "when?" Dozens of people seem to have a lot of trouble with it. I myself have avoided it, but I'll probably check it out at some point in the future.
Not everyone will ever get on the torrent train anyway. Some people don't want to get through the various software problems and the red tape that some torrent trackers (such as Sharing The Groove) have. Some people will always prefer to receive this stuff through ye olde snail mail. Then there's the people who want to contribute to sharing this stuff to others in the most efficient and least time-consuming way possible in lossless forms. Then it isn't just under one person's responsibility.

One thing that's the benefit of this is getting a flawless & lossless copy of something and then preventing it from being polluted by other traders through failed CD-R burnings and such. That's what the .md5-file is usually there for, to see if a particular fileset has retained its original integrity or not. Of course this means that you should burn torrents as data discs, not audio discs, but hell, who has the time to listen to every show in existence on a constant basis anyway. ;)

[face of glass]

Well, I think? it's mainly a problem for us with older machines. Mine's almost 4 years old, and doesn't have a DVD burner, or even player. But, I've upgraded it to 100 gig hard drive, so I'm milking it as long as possible.
But, it seems like those with players/burners haven't had nearly as many problems.
True. My computer is five years old and it's managed all this fine so far.

[David]

One thing that's the benefit of this is getting a flawless & lossless copy of something and then preventing it from being polluted by other traders through failed CD-R burnings and such. That's what the .md5-file is usually there for, to see if a particular fileset has retained its original integrity or not.So much damage has already been done to virtually every Fleetwood concert on tape that it's important to keep future copies as pristine as possible, & apparently this technology encourages that. But I just don't see an overwhelming interest in this principle on the part of the fans in general. And where are the shows coming from that are posted to the torrent? from somebody's 139th-generation tape!

[face of glass]

So much damage has already been done to virtually every Fleetwood concert on tape that it's important to keep future copies as pristine as possible, & apparently this technology encourages that. But I just don't see an overwhelming interest in this principle on the part of the fans in general. And where are the shows coming from that are posted to the torrent? from somebody's 139th-generation tape!
Yep, all problems that I'm aware of myself too. Let's face it, Fleetwood Mac fans of the days of yore (when we're speaking of the Rumours line-up) were hardly akin to the enthusiastic tapers of Grateful Dead or various jazz ensembles. There might not have been truly anal retentive, foam-mouthed tapers & concert collectors in the FM fan community and while that has obviously saved people's nerves, I personally would've preferred it that way than the way it is now. Ah well, I was born 25 years too late anyway.

[TwistedGypsy]

Ok, I think I'm almost there. Here's the situation so far. I went to Quick Open File on my VLC Player. Found the file, clicked details to see which one was bigger, clicked the one that was. Well it seems to open on the player but there is no sound, no video, but the little progress scrolling thing is moving and there is also no tracking number that shows the progress (no clue what its called). And I never could figure out how to "verify" with the Md5 thing. And I didn't really know which one to download. So if anyone has any patience left, I would greatly appreciate it.
Brit

**UPDATE** I give up, this is ridiculous!
OK SCRATCH WHAT I JUST SAID.....I DID IT! :blob2: :blob2: :blob2: :thumbsup:

[nodmod]

Stevie DVD added "US Festival" 1983
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=17721


Stevie Nicks Live at the US Festival
Glen Helen Park, San Bernadino, CA
May 30, 1983
The Wild Heart Tour
Pro Shot for Cable TV

DVD-R > Analog Video Tape
Audio > AC3 > Analog Stereo

Set list:

·Gold Dust Woman
·Outside The Rain
·Dreams
·Gold and Braid
·I Need To Know
·Gypsy
·Angel
·Leather And Lace
·Stand Back
·How Still My Love
·Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
·Edge Of Seventeen
·Rhiannon

This dvd was authored from Pro Shot video tape transfer.
Good quality picture for the day and age of this show.
Stevie Nicks on her 2nd solo tour is silly, sweet, and
awestruck at the enormity of the crowd on hand for this event.
Stevie at the peak of her solo career. A must see for all SN fans.

The Band

Waddy Wachtel: Guitars:
Bob Glaub: Bass Guitar
Billy Payne: Keyboards
Roy Bittan: Piano
Russ Kunkel: Drums
Bobbye Hall: Percussion
Sharon Celani: Background Singer
Lori Perry: Background Singer

[HomerMcvie]

My cd burner died the death this week, so I've ordered a dvd burner for the old puter. I have all the files downloaded, I've just not been able to convert them to Mpegs. I "think" this will be easier with a dvd burner, right? :cool:

[estranged4life]

Stevie DVD added "US Festival" 1983

Stevie Nicks Live at the US Festival
Glen Helen Park, San Bernadino, CA
May 30, 1983
The Wild Heart Tour
Pro Shot for Cable TV

DVD-R > Analog Video Tape
Audio > AC3 > Analog Stereo

This dvd was authored from Pro Shot video tape transfer.
Good quality picture for the day and age of this show.
Stevie Nicks on her 2nd solo tour is silly, sweet, and
awestruck at the enormity of the crowd on hand for this event.
Stevie at the peak of her solo career. A must see for all SN fans.


Is this the upgraded version? I know there's a newer circulating version (Along with the Cal Jam) and wanted to know if this was it (The newer version has great audio/picture quality compared to the older version, Which was at best a "B" grade overall.)

Brian j.

[face of glass]

Stevie DVD added "US Festival" 1983
Thank you for another great surprise Neil. :)

[ryan8472]

I wish they would just release the US Festivals on DVD, like Live Aid. That'd be awesome.

[takenbythesky]

I wish they would just release the US Festivals on DVD, like Live Aid. That'd be awesome.
:nod: I know...I plan to start trading for Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks CD and DVD boots later this month. It's great because it's inexpensive and the trading people seem really nice, but I'd love for the shows to be available to a wider audience.
-Justin

[estranged4life]

I wish they would just release the US Festivals on DVD, like Live Aid. That'd be awesome.

that some of the US Festival performances are on DVD, But just bootlegged version:

Stevie Nicks

U2

The Day of Heavy Metal (Scorpions, Van Halen, Motley Crue, Triumph and others)



I'm sure, In the near distant future there will be a DVD commerating the US Festival...As someone famous once sung, "I Cant Wait"!!!

Brian "C.F.H.4ever" j.

[ryan8472]

that some of the US Festival performances are on DVD, But just bootlegged version:

Stevie Nicks

U2

The Day of Heavy Metal (Scorpions, Van Halen, Motley Crue, Triumph and others)



I'm sure, In the near distant future there will be a DVD commerating the US Festival...As someone famous once sung, "I Cant Wait"!!!

Brian "C.F.H.4ever" j.

I think Triumph's performance was officially released (by Triumph), was it not?

Besides the DVD's available, is there a bootleg CD version of the ENTIRE festival? I know all of it was recorded and taped.

[estranged4life]

I think Triumph's performance was officially released (by Triumph), was it not?

Besides the DVD's available, is there a bootleg CD version of the ENTIRE festival? I know all of it was recorded and taped.

the Triumph at the US Festival was officially released earlier this year.

I dont know of a bootleg version of the complete US Festival, But I guess I could check around :thumbsup:

Brian j.

[estranged4life]

I found a 3 disc FM broadcast of the "Day of Metal" (On etree.org) which consists of the following acts:

Quiet Riot
Motley Crue
Ozzy Osbourne
Judas Priest
Triumph
Scorpions
Van Halen

http://db.etree.org/lookup_show.php?shows_key=205738

I will keep checking for the rest of the US Festival

Brian "CFH4ever" j.

[face of glass]

Is this the upgraded version? I know there's a newer circulating version (Along with the Cal Jam) and wanted to know if this was it (The newer version has great audio/picture quality compared to the older version, Which was at best a "B" grade overall.)
Here's a screenshot, you can probably tell which version it is from this.

[ryan8472]

Here's a screenshot, you can probably tell which version it is from this.

Did you notice during Stand Back, how she wasn't wearing the black and gold shawl? What's up with that?

[David]

Did you notice during Stand Back, how she wasn't wearing the black and gold shawl? What's up with that?
That cape was just about to come out of retirement, but hadn't yet. It was her "Sisters of the Moon" costume when the Tusk tour ended.

[David]

Here's a screenshot, you can probably tell which version it is from this.
It's hard to tell whether that's a real upgrade or not.

Also, "Stand Back," "Outside the Rain" & "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" were all broadcast on Showtime, so screenshots from that broadcast are going to look a lot better obviously.

What I want to know -- & what Neil won't tell me ;) -- is where that upgrade of the Landover 7-07-83 video came from. That's a major, serious upgrade, a real find!

There's a great Cal Jam 2 on WMA going around (along with a lot of crappy ones) because Brian @ MSN still had his videotape of a rerun of it on TV, & he transferred it. I don't think he got the post-performance interview, though.

[estranged4life]

Here's a screenshot, you can probably tell which version it is from this.

It definitely looked clearer...So the copy I have coming in may be the upgraded version afterall.

Brian j.

[nodmod]

The copy I have on DVD looks like the screen captures contained on the below link:
- http://www.fleetwoodmac-uk.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Stevie;action=display;num=1063470259


I cannot for the life on me remember where this DVD originated from or for that matter the Landover '83 show, but I think they came from regular FM traders, I presume that this comp is the one David is referrung to:

Stevie Nicks - Live Collection DVD-R (A)
Stevie live in Landover 1983 (Gold Dust Woman, Outside The Rain, Dreams, I Need To Know, Sara, If Anyone Falls, Leather and Lace, Standback, Beauty and the Beast, Gypsy), Stevie & Sheryl Crow - Gold Dust Woman live from Central Park in 1999, Storytellers from 1998 (Dreams, Landslide, Standback, Rhiannon, After The Glitter Fades, Edge Of Seventeen, Has Anyone Ever Written)
Quality Notes: Interactive Menu, The Landover Show is pro shot, picture signal superb, sound quality superb, NTSC Picture Signal

http://www.fleetwoodmac-uk.com/images/user_submissions/landover83_1.jpg

http://www.fleetwoodmac-uk.com/images/user_submissions/landover83_2.jpg

[glitter_fades]

Neil, someone made nice cover art for the dvd. You might want to add it to your archive.

http://www.easytree.org/attachments/17721/162554/StevieNicks-USFestDVD.jpg

[gldstwmn]

I know this is sort of OT but there is a really nice Elvis Christmas boot over there right now with alternate takes, remixes and some unreleased stuff.

[nodmod]

Neil, someone made nice cover art for the dvd. You might want to add it to your archive.

http://www.easytree.org/attachments/17721/162554/StevieNicks-USFestDVD.jpg

Cool, thanks for that, will add at the next update

[ricohv]

On the Top 10 page of EZ Torrent, at the very bottom, is the list of Top 10 Worst seeded torrents". Stevie Nicks Live at US Festival is #7. What does that mean? I've got three things downloading right now and I feel like I haven't a clue what I'm doing. I hope this works! I have wanted to see Stevie's performance at the US Festival for years so I decided to quit feeling so inept and just give this a try!
Ricoh

[glitter_fades]

Worst seeded means tons of people are trying to get the show and not enough people who have it are staying connected. It takes a certain number of seeders (people who have the whole file) to get the show out for others to take. A lot of people grab the show and disconnect. That happens a lot with people who don't use the site very much. They just want to snatch a show and leave. You're supposed to stay connected after a download so others can upload from you. It's considered a rule of thumb to stay connected and upload as much as you downloaded. A lot of people don't. Eventually they will be barred from getting downloads once they exceed a certain limit without uploading. If you get this show, it would be nice to stay connected so others can get it too. The more uploads or seeders connected, the faster it is for others to get the show downloaded. Even if I already have a certain dvd, sometimes I download it anyway so I can be a seeder. I'll go get this one and stay online as a seeder and maybe this will help. As of now there are 6 seeders (people giving out the show) and 71 leechers (people trying to get the show.) That's why it's on the worst seeded list. I'll start seeding and maybe that will help take it off the list. If other people would stay connected after downloading that would help get it off the worst seeded list and help the reputation of Mac fans with the torrent community. Right now, it's not that great, just for this very thing...taking without giving any back.
Let's see if we can turn that around. :wavey:

[ricohv]

Ah, thanks for the explanantion. And now I know what to do after I have it downloaded! I wasn't really clear how that worked. Thanks.

[face of glass]

Even if I already have a certain dvd, sometimes I download it anyway so I can be a seeder.
I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but if you're absolutely sure that your DVD is from the same source as that of the original seeder, you can just rip those files directly to your hard drive and then connect to the torrent as a seeder. It's a bit less time-consuming. ;)

[estranged4life]

if any of y'all see any Pantera/DamagePlan shows on torrent please let me know...I trade anything on my pages for 'em!!!!

Hell, I have 8 FM related DVD's to view today that I havent even started on.

Brian "The Ledge's Resident Metalhead" j.

[ricohv]

Ok -here's another (potentially) dumb question: Once I have something downloaded from EZTorrent (my first-yahoo!) can I listen to it while still leaving it available for others to get it from me? Or do I have to wait another 15 hours so others can get it first, and then I can listen? I'm trying to do all this right but some aspects of this are not mapped out real clearly. Also, how long should you wait before disconnecting or closing it out or whatever, i.e. is there an appropriate amount of time to wait? Thanks for everyone's help! Ooops, one more question, I have three more things downloading-it shouldn't make a difference on the time it takes to download based on how many I have going at the same time, right? I'm assuming this because your download time depends on how many other people leave theirs up, not how many you have going concurrently, right? Thanks, Ricoh

[MirrorInTheSky]

Argh...please excuse my naivete, but everytime I try to download something, I get a red error message saying "bad data from tracker". Can anyone help?

[ricohv]

OK I have successfully got my first lossless download downloaded! My first one to complete was the Heart Burn To The Wick show from 1/79. I can't beleive how good the quality of the sound is. Not so difficult after all and definately worth the wait!

Ricoh

[gldstwmn]

if any of y'all see any Pantera/DamagePlan shows on torrent please let me know...I trade anything on my pages for 'em!!!!

Hell, I have 8 FM related DVD's to view today that I havent even started on.

Brian "The Ledge's Resident Metalhead" j.

They currently have 10 shows up for grabs:
Pantera Dynamo Festival Eindhoven, Netherlands 05/30/98
Pantera "slaughtered Show" Osaka, Japan May 1, 1994
Pantera Milano, Italy (Forum di Assago)21 october 1994
Pantera The Masquerade Atlanta, GA, U.S.A. November 7th, 1990
Pantera Dallas TX 1989
Pantera Before We Were Cowboys The Basement Dallas, Texas Date: 1988-12-20
Pantera 5/5/94 San Antonio, TX
Pantera Parque Sarmiento Stadium Buenos Aires 6-9-1998
Pantera August 26th, 2000 Shoreline Ampitheatre-Mountain View,CA
Pantera February 6th, 2001 Event Center@San Jose State-San Jose,CA

If you want any of these let me know and I'll get them and trade you for Mac/Stevie. :)

Also, one Damageplan show:
Damageplan The Starland Ballroom; Sayreville, NJ July 30, 2004

[gldstwmn]

OK I have successfully got my first lossless download downloaded! My first one to complete was the Heart Burn To The Wick show from 1/79. I can't beleive how good the quality of the sound is. Not so difficult after all and definately worth the wait!

Ricoh

Oooh, I'm gonna have to check that one out.

[estranged4life]

They currently have 10 shows up for grabs:
Pantera Dynamo Festival Eindhoven, Netherlands 05/30/98
Pantera "slaughtered Show" Osaka, Japan May 1, 1994
Pantera Milano, Italy (Forum di Assago)21 october 1994
Pantera The Masquerade Atlanta, GA, U.S.A. November 7th, 1990
Pantera Dallas TX 1989
Pantera Before We Were Cowboys The Basement Dallas, Texas Date: 1988-12-20
Pantera 5/5/94 San Antonio, TX
Pantera Parque Sarmiento Stadium Buenos Aires 6-9-1998
Pantera August 26th, 2000 Shoreline Ampitheatre-Mountain View,CA
Pantera February 6th, 2001 Event Center@San Jose State-San Jose,CA

If you want any of these let me know and I'll get them and trade you for Mac/Stevie. :)

Also, one Damageplan show:
Damageplan The Starland Ballroom; Sayreville, NJ July 30, 2004

I would definitely trade for some of those shows listed, Especially the July 30,2004 DamagePlan show...Just PM me and we can work something out.

Brian j.

[MacMan]

I just have to say the US Fest Stevie show that is up for download is EXCELLENT. This sucker should have been released. She's so into it with the crowd and so happy and excited to be there in front of that many people. I have one version of this show on dvd... But this one far exceeds that one in terms of quality. Great show!!

[gldstwmn]

I just have to say the US Fest Stevie show that is up for download is EXCELLENT. This sucker should have been released. She's so into it with the crowd and so happy and excited to be there in front of that many people. I have one version of this show on dvd... But this one far exceeds that one in terms of quality. Great show!!

Hmmm. I have a good quality DVD of this show but I'm wondering if I should download it and see if it's clearer than the one I have.

[MacMan]

There are a couple of new torrents up for download on easytree - for those members that can access them.

Fleetwood Mac - Los Angeles - 1974
Source: Pinup Records - Made in France 2001
Lineage: SBD > ? > Silver CD > EAC > FLAC

1. Green Manalishi
2. Angel
3. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
4. Sentimental Lady
5. Future Games
6. Why
7. Bermuda Triangle
8. Hypnotized


Fleetwood Mac - Ultrasonic Studios - 10/8/74
Source: Pinup Records - Made in France 2001
Lineage: SBD > ? > Silver CD > EAC > FLAC

1. Green Manalishi
2. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
3. Sentimental Lady
4. Future Games
5. Bermuda Triangle
6. Why
7. Angel
8. Homeward Bound
9. Rattlesnake Shake
10. Hypnotized
11. Black Magic Woman

[MacMan]

Another Stevie show upped on 12/27 to easytree:

Stevie Nicks (with Special Guest Sheryl Crow)
Trouble In Shangri La Tour
07.14.01 Tweeter Center, Mansfield, MA

AUD Recording Trade CD-R (Unknown Source or Gen) > EAC > FLAC

Nice sounding AUD recording with bearable crowd noise, especially for a Stevie show. There are a few minor errors that have been notated on the track listing. These errors were on my copies that I received in trade.

Everyone involved seems to be havin' a blast and Stevie is in good form. Sheryl Crow, co-producer on the TISL disc, is the special guest this evening and they play a few of her tunes as well.

Easytree (http://bt.easytree.org/index.php)

[gldstwmn]

I'm listening to the Mansfield show now. It's pretty good. :thumbsup:

[glitter_fades]

Sioux City, IA July 13, 2004 [AUDIO] is ready for download:

http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21024&edited=1

This is the show where Stevie dedicates Landslide to Matthew. (Anderson?) Could be?

Fleetwood Mac
Say You Will Tour
Tyson Events Center
Sioux City, Iowa
July 13, 2004

Taped by lctric

Recorded with 2) Realistic 33-1063 Electret Condenser Mics >
Sony D7 DAT > Tascam DA-20 MKII > Zefiro ZA2 >

Lineage: DAT > CDR > WAV (EAC) >
WAV PAD edit > FLAC Frontend

:thumbsup: Way cool! Not a dvd but good Audience audio recording.

[face of glass]

Gotta love the additional note included in the Sioux City show textfile:
DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 !
THIS MEANS YOU...CRAZEE ASS MAC FANS!

[77Rumours77]

DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 !

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats what were good for.... Bad sounding bootlegs and MP3's :laugh:
(People say FM boots are the worse... NOT TRUE. Aerosmith a much worse)

[estranged4life]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats what were good for.... Bad sounding bootlegs and MP3's :laugh:
(People say FM boots are the worse... NOT TRUE. Aerosmith a much worse)

I have a ton of Aerosmith recordings, And while the overall sound is light years better than the FM recordings, They are almost all ruined by being MP3'd.

Anyway, I have a bunch of upgrades of Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks I would like to trade to someone in the very near future, In hopes that they would be listed on torrent so everyone can share.

Brian "Y.D.M.S." j.

[77Rumours77]

I have a ton of Aerosmith recordings, And while the overall sound is light years better than the FM recordings, They are almost all ruined by being MP3'd.

Anyway, I have a bunch of upgrades of Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks I would like to trade to someone in the very near future, In hopes that they would be listed on torrent so everyone can share.

Brian "Y.D.M.S." j.

I dont really have a lot of MP3 shows.. maybe 6 in all of the 230 boots i own. Including Fmac...... I really dont put concerts on CD that other people have posted on their websites..... There really is only one exception to that is Boston shows. They are a rare find. Although I only have 1 or 2.
I have a lot of aerosmith shows (well a few not "A lot" :) ) From 1997 on to 2004 and most of them are a B-to A- sound and were at one time MP3. I even have shows that were once mp3 them they were uploaded and edited to get rid of gaps..... The guy told me about this show (this was when I was new to trading and did know if mp3 made a difference) and I wanted it anyways.... O well my loss.
But I am greatful that I have a bunch of FM shows (MP3 or not) I dont even have a quarter of Boston shows and thats really what I want. I know a guy who has every boston recording known to man.... but he sells them and is a slow trader (I'v traded w/ him).
The only reason I put MP3's on my site is for pleasure not business. I frown apon people trading them..... YOU NEED TO LET PPL KNOW IT IS MP3.
I dont like mp3 shows..... but I host them on my site... does that make me a hipocryt? LOL :D

[estranged4life]

The only reason I put MP3's on my site is for pleasure not business. I frown apon people trading them..... YOU NEED TO LET PPL KNOW IT IS MP3.
I dont like mp3 shows..... but I host them on my site... does that make me a hipocryt? LOL :D

all the warnings on a website to not "download or alter a recording from the original format to a MP3 recording" and still some f-tard will do exactly that.

I know alot of tapers who have uncirculated FM shows who refuse to circulate 'em because of what I have mentioned above, They want their original format to remain unchanged (ie-The taper of the infamous Buffalo 2003 ALD contacted me and asked how I received the show when it was to not be circulated, And why it was now MP3'd....After a lengthy back-and-forth conversation he realized that one of the individuals he gave this show too did not follow his directions to "not share it", But this was after it was already listed online to be downloaded.)

Btw, I dont think you're a hypocrite...

Brian j.

[77Rumours77]

all the warnings on a website to not "download or alter a recording from the original format to a MP3 recording" and still some f-tard will do exactly that.

I know alot of tapers who have uncirculated FM shows who refuse to circulate 'em because of what I have mentioned above, They want their original format to remain unchanged (ie-The taper of the infamous Buffalo 2003 ALD contacted me and asked how I received the show when it was to not be circulated, And why it was now MP3'd....After a lengthy back-and-forth conversation he realized that one of the individuals he gave this show too did not follow his directions to "not share it", But this was after it was already listed online to be downloaded.)

Btw, I dont think you're a hypocrite...

Brian j.


And you right.... I really don't know what version of the buffalo show I have.... Although its an awesome show... It would be better if there was a better sounding one out there..... I traded for it... I don't Know. I really don't even care anymore..... I think you might like a thread I am going to post in a minute about torrent hosting.....

[gldstwmn]

Sioux City, IA July 13, 2004 [AUDIO] is ready for download:
Taped by lctric


I'm glad he made good on his offer to post his tapes. :thumbsup: Nice guy. :)

[gldstwmn]

I have a ton of Aerosmith recordings, And while the overall sound is light years better than the FM recordings, They are almost all ruined by being MP3'd.

Anyway, I have a bunch of upgrades of Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks I would like to trade to someone in the very near future, In hopes that they would be listed on torrent so everyone can share.

Brian "Y.D.M.S." j.

Just let me know. There's a ton of Beatle stuff over there-if you want any of it let me know (that is, if you don't already have it :lol: ). I just d/l this one:
John Lennon
Rehearsals at Butterfly Studios, Aug. 21 1972
Moonlight Records, ML 9506
Lineage: Original pressed disc--->EAC--->FLAC Frontend


(01) John Lennon - Roll Over Beethoven.flac
(02) John Lennon - Honey Don't.flac
(03) John Lennon - Ain't That a Shame.flac
(04) John Lennon - My Babe,Not Fade Away.flac
(05) John Lennon - Send Me Some Lovin'.flac
(06) John Lennon - Yoko Jam.flac
(07) John Lennon - Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On , It'll Be Me.flac
(08) John Lennon - Honey Hush.flac
(09) John Lennon - Don't Be Cruel ,Hound Dog.flac
(10) John Lennon - Caribbean.flac
(11) John Lennon - Honky Tonk.flac
(12) John Lennon - Mind Train.flac
(13) John Lennon - Come Together.flac
(14) John Lennon - We're All Water.flac

Haven't listened to it yet though.

[estranged4life]

Just let me know. There's a ton of Beatle stuff over there-if you want any of it let me know (that is, if you don't already have it :lol: ). I just d/l this one:

John Lennon
Rehearsals at Butterfly Studios, Aug. 21 1972
Moonlight Records, ML 9506
Lineage: Original pressed disc--->EAC--->FLAC Frontend



in more metal (I have to check out the Beatle related torrents since I have tons of the newer stuff already), I have to go back over there and see what interested me (Saw a bunch last night.)

I'll get back to ya :nod:

Brian "Y.D.M.S." j.

[WizNicks]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats what were good for.... Bad sounding bootlegs and MP3's :laugh:


LOL! Yes, aboslutelly right! I hate mp3s and I would never download one, , because mp3s are evil! Oh, btw, is there anyone who wants o download the Sioux City mp3s here: http://www.fmp3.de/Various/SOTD.htm ? Hmmmm....maybe the wrong thread for mp3 adverts!
I don't understand the whole trouble about mp3 converting! I work like 60 hours a week and I don't have time to trade bootlegs and download too many bittorrents, so do a lot of other people! The first thing I do with bittorent files is converting them to mp3 to listen to them on my computer, because I also don't have the money to burn it all on CD! But I wouldn't trade mp3s, it is just that downloading mp3s is the easiest way for all of us to get the files, even when they sound a little bit worse than the wave of flac files!

[face of glass]

...it is just that downloading mp3s is the easiest way for all of us to get the files, even when they sound a little bit worse than the wave of flac files!

David darling, the reason why some people feel so strongly about mp3-sourced material is because they've received cd-rs through trades that were mp3-sourced and had still been burned as your typical audio discs. And it isn't all that difficult to prove whether something is mp3-sourced or not.

Bottom line is: don't cheat, and don't act all ignorant either, sooner or later everybody in the trading chain finds out. (Enough FM song title references there.) ;)

[glitter_fades]

LOL! Yes, aboslutelly right! I hate mp3s and I would never download one, , because mp3s are evil! Oh, btw, is there anyone who wants o download the Sioux City mp3s here: http://www.fmp3.de/Various/SOTD.htm ? Hmmmm....maybe the wrong thread for mp3 adverts!
I don't understand the whole trouble about mp3 converting! I work like 60 hours a week and I don't have time to trade bootlegs and download too many bittorrents, so do a lot of other people! The first thing I do with bittorent files is converting them to mp3 to listen to them on my computer, because I also don't have the money to burn it all on CD! But I wouldn't trade mp3s, it is just that downloading mp3s is the easiest way for all of us to get the files, even when they sound a little bit worse than the wave of flac files!


60 hours! I see what you mean, but you had plenty of time to download this torrent, convert it to mp3 (when requested not to do so), then upload tracks to your own webiste. You don't trade mp3s, but what do you think posting them for download on a website leads to?

Hey, nobody cares if you convert what you listen to on your own computer, but you went a step further. You put mp3's out on the Internet for download then compunded the issue by posting here on a widely read website your willingness to ignore torrent traders' requests. I'm sure we'll be getting a lot more shows like this from the torrent community as a result of your generosity. :(

Does everyone agree this is the way to go?

:shrug:

[estranged4life]

the instructions of the shows I received from outside the usual FM circles to not alter 'em...I think if that is what it takes to get a show then it should be followed, cause otherwise you changed the rules the taper gave on how the show should be traded.

Brian j.

[nodmod]

60 hours! I see what you mean, but you had plenty of time to download this torrent, convert it to mp3 (when requested not to do so), then upload tracks to your own webiste. You don't trade mp3s, but what do you think posting them for download on a website leads to?

Hey, nobody cares if you convert what you listen to on your own computer, but you went a step further. You put mp3's out on the Internet for download then compunded the issue by posting here on a widely read website your willingness to ignore torrent traders' requests. I'm sure we'll be getting a lot more shows like this from the torrent community as a result of your generosity. :(

Does everyone agree this is the way to go?

:shrug:

I would have to agree with this, it's very disappointing that these tracks were ripped and posted to MP3s as soon as they were available, I am sure that with all the SYW 2003/2004 Bootlegs that are available in the trading community, either as MP3s or regular CDR trades that maybe this one could have stayed lossless.

I only hope that the original trader / taper of this show (who may have other shows) does not take the opinion of not releasing the other material that they may have. :( :confused:

[WizNicks]

60 hours! I see what you mean, but you had plenty of time to download this torrent, convert it to mp3 (when requested not to do so), then upload tracks to your own webiste. You don't trade mp3s, but what do you think posting them for download on a website leads to?

Hey, nobody cares if you convert what you listen to on your own computer, but you went a step further. You put mp3's out on the Internet for download then compunded the issue by posting here on a widely read website your willingness to ignore torrent traders' requests. I'm sure we'll be getting a lot more shows like this from the torrent community as a result of your generosity. :(

Does everyone agree this is the way to go?

:shrug:

Downloading took 6 hours, uploading took 10 minutes!
It sounds like it is something bad and criminal to convert it to mp3 and post it! It is not! it is what everyone mp3 site (and there are a lot of it) does! The file on the easytree site has been snatched 90 times and the three tracks on mp3 were downloaded 112 times from my site! it is bad that mp3 is seen as and not as an alternate to tradÃ*ng, but it is!

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Downloading took 6 hours, uploading took 10 minutes!
It sounds like it is something bad and criminal to convert it to mp3 and post it! It is not! it is what everyone mp3 site (and there are a lot of it) does! The file on the easytree site has been snatched 90 times and the three tracks on mp3 were downloaded 112 times from my site! it is bad that mp3 is seen as and not as an alternate to tradÃ*ng, but it is!
So it won't bother you if the source decides not to share anything else?

[WizNicks]

So it won't bother you if the source decides not to share anything else?

Why does the source shares it online at all? I will end this discussion and convert the stuff to widnows media audio if that makes him happier! He mustn't share this show, because in the end it will be posted at any other site and you know that it is true! Remember the disussion about the My Heart song where the girl who had the bootleg with the track didn't want to post it? Everybody said it was wrong, but it was her wish and in the end she shared it with us! Now I want to share something and that may be wrong? Why does he has problems with converted files? Because of the lousy music quality? Hell no, he doesn't need to download it! When he wants to share a Fleetwood Mac show, he has to understand that there is no way getting around the fact, that it will be posted as converted files one day and everyone of you know that there are a lot of people (compared to fans of other bands), who likes to download mp3s and the lousy quality of mp3s is enough for them! Whats so wrong about posting mp3s? I don't care!

[nodmod]

Why does the source shares it online at all? I will end this discussion and convert the stuff to widnows media audio if that makes him happier! He mustn't share this show, because in the end it will be posted at any other site and you know that it is true! Remember the disussion about the My Heart song where the girl who had the bootleg with the track didn't want to post it? Everybody said it was wrong, but it was her wish and in the end she shared it with us! Now I want to share something and that may be wrong? Why does he has problems with converted files? Because of the lousy music quality? Hell no, he doesn't need to download it! When he wants to share a Fleetwood Mac show, he has to understand that there is no way getting around the fact, that it will be posted as converted files one day and everyone of you know that there are a lot of people (compared to fans of other bands), who likes to download mp3s and the lousy quality of mp3s is enough for them! Whats so wrong about posting mp3s? I don't care!

The My Heart song was completely different, this was a never before heard of song, the SYW set at Siuox City was the same goddamn set that FM played nearly every night of 2003 / 2004.

I have no issues with the lossless v lossy debate (each to their own), the issue I have is that we (the collective Fleetwood Mac fan community) have jeopardised getting any other rare shows that these collectors are sitting on because we (again the collective Fleetwood Mac fan community) could not resist the temptation of earning a few brownie points for posting and downloading a new show on an MP3 site.

[face of glass]

When he wants to share a Fleetwood Mac show, he has to understand that there is no way getting around the fact, that it will be posted as converted files one day and everyone of you know that there are a lot of people (compared to fans of other bands), who likes to download mp3s and the lousy quality of mp3s is enough for them! Whats so wrong about posting mp3s? I don't care!
I don't think the main problem here is compressing mp3 material for your own purposes, the problem is that some of the mp3 downloaders will inevitably pass the material on as fake .wav-files.
And yes, I do think that the wishes of the taper (or whoever decides to spread the goods in the first place) should be respected.

And keep in mind, if this discussion was going on in a trading community of a band other than Fleetwood Mac, someone would want to hang you from your precious balls already. ;)

[WizNicks]

I have no issues with the lossless v lossy debate (each to their own), the issue I have is that we (the collective Fleetwood Mac fan community) have jeopardised getting any other rare shows that these collectors are sitting on because we (again the collective Fleetwood Mac fan community) could not resist the temptation of earning a few brownie points for posting and downloading a new show on an MP3 site.

It has nothing to do with earning brownies! Til this day there has been three things that I have posted: Rumours Center Channel Mixes, Tango Sessions II (which was offered me to post it) and this show! I wanted to offer it to other site (like I did with other bootlegs), but then I thought I might post it!

The My Heart song was completely different, this was a never before heard of song, the SYW set at Siuox City was the same goddamn set that FM played nearly every night of 2003 / 2004.

And why is there such a heavy discussion about "the same goddamn set that FM played nearly every night of 2003 / 2004"? Why? The only one who has copy right on this recordings is Fleetwood Mac! I am treated like I am selling this bootleg on ebay for much money, but fact is I am posting "the same goddamn set that FM played nearly every night of 2003 / 2004" on my iste and everyone seem to have a problem with it! You all guys have the show now! People are still uploading the show from my computer! No one of you needs to download the show from my site and no one will offer the hsow to you on CDR mp3 sourced, because you already have the show!

[estranged4life]

The only one who has copy right on this recordings is Fleetwood Mac!

if Fleetwood Mac wanted to they could kill all of this by filing copyright infringement on any of the ROIO recordings made in their name (As could any artist) that we all have and in turn sue us all, But that would not be a cool thing to do since it can have the reverse effect and damage an artist in their fans eyes (Ask Metallica, They know this all to well...They'll never recover and have even publicly admitted as such, Wishing now they would have never fought Napster/fans)

I'm not complaining at ya, Just clairifying that Mick & co. could end this if it suited 'em.

[WizNicks]

if Fleetwood Mac wanted to they could kill all of this by filing copyright infringement on any of the ROIO recordings made in their name (As could any artist) that we all have and in turn sue us all, But that would not be a cool thing to do since it can have the reverse effect and damage an artist in their fans eyes (Ask Metallica, They know this all to well...They'll never recover and have even publicly admitted as such, Wishing now they would have never fought Napster/fans)

I'm not complaining at ya, Just clairifying that Mick & co. could end this if it suited 'em.

Yes, but what does that have to do with me?
I am not the one who makes it all so big! I don*t join othe message boards and tell them how ****ed up they actually are (not in that words, but different!) Making this thing so big is he mistake! If so, isn't mp3 downloading as illegal as bootleg trading, because it is the same thing (with quality differences)! If I didn't post it in here, would anyone care about it? Probably not! In the meantime, 182 people have downloaded the tracks I had on my site and I am sure they're also a few people who read this thread! How about bittorrent? I don't know and I am too lazy to watch! Isn't it all about sharing music? In what ways doesn't count!

[77Rumours77]

O man if they were to sue people for $2,000 dollars for every boot we owned... well I know I would be ****ed.... Almost half a million dollars! :laugh:
Oh well.
$2,000 is light for a copyright infragment.. some can be up to $75,000 for each one! ****! lets see... $75,000 x 150 = hell I dont even want to know.
Brian you mentioned something about Metalica seuing people, one reason I would never collect their boots (plue i dont like them) Y risk it when they have publicly done it.
No Way.
All in all I am not to worried about getting sued by Fleetwood Mac, Van Halen, The Rolling Stones, Boston, Bruce Springsteen, Aerosmith, u2, ect ect. Hell they should really take bootlegs as a compliment. I mena its not like they are losing money on it. Think of it this way......
Fleetwood Mac 6/13/80 - Rotterdam, Holland - Ahoy. The quality on that is a C-/C now if they were to publicly sell that. How many people would buy it? 100 AT MOST! I wouldnt buy it. But they need to realize that they have fans out there that like these tours so much that they will sit through and listen to these recordings. They arn't losing money off of it. The only person it benifets is the fans.
I tell them to come after me and try to sue me, Some of these artists cant afford to lose anymore fans. So No I am not worred about beng sued
thats my .2 cents and a piece of pie. :thumbsup:

[estranged4life]

Yes, but what does that have to do with me?
I am not the one who makes it all so big! I don*t join othe message boards and tell them how ****ed up they actually are (not in that words, but different!) Making this thing so big is he mistake! If so, isn't mp3 downloading as illegal as bootleg trading, because it is the same thing (with quality differences)! If I didn't post it in here, would anyone care about it? Probably not! In the meantime, 182 people have downloaded the tracks I had on my site and I am sure they're also a few people who read this thread! How about bittorrent? I don't know and I am too lazy to watch! Isn't it all about sharing music? In what ways doesn't count!

or even saying it has to do with you, Just stating that copyrights are bigger than ALL of us combined...I'm just saying that if it came down to "brass tacks" FM can slam anyone online with their material if they claim a copyright infringment claim on an individual, Be it trade-sites, MP3 sites & bit torrents...Which then would affect everyone who tries to share the music, Be it you, me or others who have posted today.

[estranged4life]

All in all I am not to worried about getting sued by Fleetwood Mac, Van Halen, The Rolling Stones, Boston, Bruce Springsteen, Aerosmith, u2, ect ect. Hell they should really take bootlegs as a compliment. I mena its not like they are losing money on it. Think of it this way......


Bono of U2 has to purchase a bootleg ("Salome-The Achtung Baby Session Tapes") to just see what material was on the disc but he even forgot himself...Because he couldnt find someone who would give a free copy cause they thought he would sue 'em ("We dont care if fans make copies of ours shows and pass 'em about...But when you do it for money...We will find where you parked your car and bash out the windows"-Bono on live bootlegs)

[bjk3047]

Whats so wrong about posting mp3s? I don't care!

That's the problem. You don't care. You could have easily downloaded the show, said 'Thank you, sir' and be on your way. But you decided to blatantly dismiss the taper's wishes. If you taped a show, and then someone sped it up to chipmunk speed and circulated it, I'd think you'd be pissed. It was wonderful the way it was.
With the way BitTorrent seeds work, the show will be up for a week or two, and then it'll fade away. But your ****ty (in the eyes of those who care) MP3's will be around for as long as you want. So as time goes on, those who want the option of finding the quality version won't be able to.
Thank you for your callous disregard for the taping community's ethics and standards.

[WizNicks]

That's the problem. You don't care. You could have easily downloaded the show, said 'Thank you, sir' and be on your way. But you decided to blatantly dismiss the taper's wishes. If you taped a show, and then someone sped it up to chipmunk speed and circulated it, I'd think you'd be pissed. It was wonderful the way it was.
With the way BitTorrent seeds work, the show will be up for a week or two, and then it'll fade away. But your ****ty (in the eyes of those who care) MP3's will be around for as long as you want. So as time goes on, those who want the option of finding the quality version won't be able to.
Thank you for your callous disregard for the taping community's ethics and standards.

So? The bootleg will disappear on one or two weeks, now 180 people have it and are happy that they have it! Amybe I don#t care, but what you do is ignorant! Why do you give a f**k about taht files ****ty mp3 files will still excists in 2 years! You shouldn't care about it? It's not your buisness! You will have nothing to do with my users downloading the music whih has been posted on the easytree site (not even on the ledge)! I like you all guys! I don't even have the tracks posted as mp3s, I have them as wma, and the taper didnt say anything about it! What would've been the difference if www.sararhiannon.com or www.bluewhitefire.com (no offence, just an example) would have posted the files as mp3s on their site after they have traded for it, nothing would've happened! You all forget that bit torrent is sharing music, like downloading mp3 is! Just other people do this! In the end you downloaded the show too, but on my site, twice as much people do it and in the end, the show would've been posted on another site and absolutely NOBODY of you would care about it, or even write a email to the webmaster! I don't know, I have the feeling some people want to sound sanctimonious! (no offence, I like you all guys, but that's not okay)

And btw, do you have any idea what **** you have written there?

[EnchantedSLN]

What would've been the difference if www.sararhiannon.com or www.bluewhitefire.com (no offence, just an example) would have posted the files as mp3s on their site after they have traded for it, nothing would've happened!

David, I appreciate the service your site provides to the fan community, but I do understand why people are upset. It's not a personal attack on you -- if I or anyone else had posted the show in .mp3 form I imagine the same complaints would have been raised. To the people who tape the shows and upload them as bit torrent, .mp3 is an extremely poor quality format that pollutes the trading community. They're purists. Whether you agree with them or not (and I don't, necessarily -- the only way to tell the difference between lossless vs. high bitrate .mp3 source is through programs that allow you to visualize compression and compare the waveforms), disregarding the wishes of the taper will result in them refusing to share stuff in the future.

And just to add, because you mentioned 'My Heart', I think that was a slightly different situation, but I did get negative responses to posting that too. The person that originally posted about the song was pretty upset, although the file I posted had a different source.

[WizNicks]

I know and understand this! But people would rather see me burning the CD and cleaning my ass with it the burned CD, than converting it to mp3! The thing is just that everybody, except the the taper told me something, why it should't be converted the mp3 (or wma)! You call it purists, I call it ignorant! After a bootleg is in circulation, it goes its way and sooner or later it will end up as mp3, maybe not today or tomorrow, but maybe next month! I don't understand their reasons why this show mustn't be shared with a with more people in mp3 form! All people who posted here already downloaded this show and burned it on CD! Why are the other 200 people who are interested in this show not allowed to download it? You make sharing music to a privilege that only a few people should have! You don't even care about the other people who can't do bittorrents, because they have dial-up (etc.) and mp3 is their only alternative to that!
Please tell me one good reason why this show mustn't be shared on mp3 (except that the taper doesn't want it to) and the users of my site will find 10 why it should be shared! HELL NO! That doesn't hurt anyone! Is it bad for someone's ego? Everyday 10.000 of people are dying in South Asia and wwe discuss about cnverting flac files to mp3s! That is absolutely sick! Doesn't people have other problems than this? I don't think so! I will do what I begun and this thread is ended for me now, because I can't hear it anymore!

[dissention]

Bono of U2 has to purchase a bootleg ("Salome-The Achtung Baby Session Tapes") to just see what material was on the disc but he even forgot himself...Because he couldnt find someone who would give a free copy cause they thought he would sue 'em ("We dont care if fans make copies of ours shows and pass 'em about...But when you do it for money...We will find where you parked your car and bash out the windows"-Bono on live bootlegs)

I like what Bowie said about bootlegs:

"They've been taking my music and bootlegging my shows for ages. I know all the sites that have my bootlegs and all my MP3s. Actually, I don't give a flying f*ck. I like the internet and I like the community."

[Mari]

always thought the internet was about sharing. And to share, you have to be able to part with your things :shrug:

[EnchantedSLN]

Chill, I'm not attacking you :p.


You make sharing music to a privilege that only a few people should have! You don't even care about the other people who can't do bittorrents, because they have dial-up (etc.) and mp3 is their only alternative to that!

I never said any such thing. For the record, I'm currently on dial-up. I didn't download the show because I don't know how bit torrent works and I'm too lazy to learn right now. However, the show was offered here (via snail mail) to anyone who wanted it, including those like me who had slow connections or weren't familiar with bit torrent, so it's not as if it was being kept from people. You asked why posting the mp3s was such a big deal -- I was just trying to explain that bit torrent traders are usually very strict about format and will withhold stuff in the future if people disregard their requests to keep the material lossless. The fact that posting the mp3s jeopardizes the chance of more rarities being circulated, is a big reason that people are upset.

[WizNicks]

Hmmmm! Actually i didn't want to post here anymore, but you may misunderstood something! Of course I didn't mean you with that, I mean all the others! Compared to the others (with Mari), you showed at least a little bit understanding for that! After I dowloaded a bit torrent, the downloading is ended, that means, the files are copied on my computer and I can do what I want with them! I can convert them to everything I want and there is nthing you can do about it! I am not renting the bittorrent, so that I have to give it back! Those "purists" msutn't give a damn about what I am doing with it and the more I talk about it, the less I care about the taper says about it! I am pretty sure, that taping the show wasn't allowed too, but that's a thing nobody cares about! The show was taped and offered for download and now everyone who has downloaded the show can do what he/she wants with it and I stop carrying now at this partcular moment what everyone's saying about it!

[HomerMcvie]

Hmmmm! Actually i didn't want to post here anymore, but you may misunderstood something! Of course I didn't mean you with that, I mean all the others! Compared to the others (with Mari), you showed at least a little bit understanding for that! After I dowloaded a bit torrent, the downloading is ended, that means, the files are copied on my computer and I can do what I want with them! I can convert them to everything I want and there is nthing you can do about it! I am not renting the bittorrent, so that I have to give it back! Those "purists" msutn't give a damn about what I am doing with it and the more I talk about it, the less I care about the taper says about it! I am pretty sure, that taping the show wasn't allowed too, but that's a thing nobody cares about! The show was taped and offered for download and now everyone who has downloaded the show can do what he/she wants with it and I stop carrying now at this partcular moment what everyone's saying about it!
:xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo:

[estranged4life]

All people who posted here already downloaded this show and burned it on CD!


the few who had this show before it was even available via torrent, I followed the taper's demand to not trade it altered from the original format and stated that request on the page which contains the show's setlist...If that's what it took to get the show, Then fine I have no problem with that (I prefer to trade via snail mail to get a recording that is pristine without the hassle of downloading or having to contend with possible downloading errors.)

But as I stated earlier before the trouble over the Sioux City show started:

If anyone thinks a taper's request on a torrent/download site (For a show to not be altered from the original format) will be honored is just wishful thinkin'

[glitter_fades]

If anyone thinks a taper's request on a torrent/download site (For a show to not be altered from the original format) will be honored is just wishful thinkin'

How true! That's the reason this thread became an issue in the first place. Everyone knows Fleetwood Mac fans don't care how recordings get traded. What happened with this show makes that point crystal clear.

Let's not fail to see the point at issue. It's not about sharing. Not at all. The reason this show got out was the desire to share a good uncirculated show. If people didn't want to share this show would still be uncirculated. Nobody would have it. End of story.

The real issue is integrity. A lot of music sharing by most other bands is done by purists who have developed a negative image of FM fans. With the poor quality of FM boots already in circulation tapers don't want to share new stuff with FM fans. They aren't sitting on shows just to be selfish. They really do care about how their shows are circulated. We obviously don't. This show was never horded. It was offered in it's original format here at the Ledge. Anyone could have gotten the show, and still can, in the uncompressed format.

Keeping things in perspective, David, the SC show was shared in it's original format with many people who could have put it on a website for download. It was offered to several people with their own websites. You're the only one who thumbed his nose at the request of the torrent trader and made things worse by posting here about your download site. Why post openly about your intention to ignore the no mp3 request and encourage the trading of the show as mp3? That's probably the thing I disagree with most. Yes, you can do what you want. Nobody says you can't. Of course you understand that the end result is...we won't get all the recordings that might be out there because the torrent traders have been proven right about the FM fan community. Not that this was a test, but if it were, we fluked out big time.

:sorry:

[bjk3047]

And btw, do you have any idea what **** you have written there?
Look man, I'm not going to try and argue my point because you either don't get it or don't want to get it. But you're going to tell me about the '**** I have written'?

Two words:
Spelling.
Grammar.

P.S. I downloaded a movie using BitTorrent. The MPAA didn't say anything to me. I guess they don't mind.

[77Rumours77]

Not to be a little bitch here but.. This was supposed to be an informative thread, not people arguing. Well I guess some of this is information! I agree with both sides, MP3's are handy especially for things I dont want to trade for. I really appreciate what service david is providing. I also fell what Brian and the rest of you guys are saying.. You really should follow the tapers rules. I download files off of Davids site for pleasure... I put them on CD but not on my trade list.. ON SOME RARE OCCASIONS I will do it.. I will be doing it for 3 FM shows tomorrow... I will inform people that it is MP3 though.
Just thought I would say.
Thanks for listening :)

[ricohv]

The intensity of these argumants amazes me. Call me another bad-Mac'cer, but really, wtf? First of all-why should we grovel to the person that might have more boots for us? If someone is sitting on some, they should share. If they created the boot themselves and they don't want to share, then keep it to yourself-what I don't know won't hurt me. If they want to state the format or sound quality that they think their bootleg-gift-to-the-world should be maintained at, then by all means state it. I will try to respect that. But don't be upset if it doesn't stay that way. Once you have given it up to the world to circulate it will change shape and form-not always for the better. MP3s are amongst the most common, easily accessed and played format of online music. So of course its bound to happen. Purists and elitists in sound quality, I respect you, and I wish I had the kind of time to really learn about all the technicalities of this, but I don't. I don't have the time and I have other interests as well. If I see a song I can easily download and play from David's site, I will. And I am as satisfied with that as I am knowing that some audio/technophile has a better sounding version of the same song that they are appreciating in their universe of better sound quality. And anyways-people get all uptight because their bootleg they put out ends up with slightly changed format or sound-but why are they so uptight? Because they can't control it. Why can't they control it? Because it is not a viable product, and it is not really their product. Technically it is Fleetwood Mac's product. Shame on me for downloading an MP3 that was originally offered as a better sounding lossless torrent. Shame on you for stealing music from Fleetwood Mac in the first place.

[HomerMcvie]

The intensity of these argumants amazes me. Call me another bad-Mac'cer, but really, wtf? First of all-why should we grovel to the person that might have more boots for us? If someone is sitting on some, they should share. If they created the boot themselves and they don't want to share, then keep it to yourself-what I don't know won't hurt me. If they want to state the format or sound quality that they think their bootleg-gift-to-the-world should be maintained at, then by all means state it. I will try to respect that. But don't be upset if it doesn't stay that way. Once you have given it up to the world to circulate it will change shape and form-not always for the better. MP3s are amongst the most common, easily accessed and played format of online music. So of course its bound to happen. Purists and elitists in sound quality, I respect you, and I wish I had the kind of time to really learn about all the technicalities of this, but I don't. I don't have the time and I have other interests as well. If I see a song I can easily download and play from David's site, I will. And I am as satisfied with that as I am knowing that some audio/technophile has a better sounding version of the same song that they are appreciating in their universe of better sound quality. And anyways-people get all uptight because their bootleg they put out ends up with slightly changed format or sound-but why are they so uptight? Because they can't control it. Why can't they control it? Because it is not a viable product, and it is not really their product. Technically it is Fleetwood Mac's product. Shame on me for downloading an MP3 that was originally offered as a better sounding lossless torrent. Shame on you for stealing music from Fleetwood Mac in the first place.

Twice in one day....Ricohv... :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo:

[glitter_fades]

I don't consider the recent posts an argument. They're more an expression of disappointment. I think sites like David's provide a great service to the trading community. I disagree he's being generous and servicable in this case. You're right about a lot of things, ricohv. Control is out of the tapers hands once the show is shared, but is it really being elitist for a taper to ask people not to convert a show's format? It's probably too much to ask, but I see it as common courtesy to respect the wishes of people who go to a lot of effort and expense getting good equipment and recording quality shows. I know I won't waste any more time or make any effort trying to liberate shows from traders who don't want to trade mp3s. You're right. If someone has a great show from Fleetwood Mac and they don't want to trade with us Mac fans who'll circulate it as mp3s...they can just sit on it.

:rolleyes:

[glitter_fades]

Not to be a little bitch here but.. This was supposed to be an informative thread, not people arguing. Well I guess some of this is information! I agree with both sides, MP3's are handy especially for things I dont want to trade for. I really appreciate what service david is providing. I also fell what Brian and the rest of you guys are saying.. You really should follow the tapers rules. I download files off of Davids site for pleasure... I put them on CD but not on my trade list.. ON SOME RARE OCCASIONS I will do it.. I will be doing it for 3 FM shows tomorrow... I will inform people that it is MP3 though.
Just thought I would say.
Thanks for listening :)

Thanks for sharing your ideas. I don't think you're a little bitch. I'm listening! :lol:

The poll at http://www.throwndown.net proves me wrong 4:1. Most people are probably on the fence. They want the mp3's but they also understand why others are sore about David advertising his downloads here. The whole thing could have been handled better if people cared to be cool about it, but some people don't give a rats ass. They just want what they can get.

I don't see this as an argument over mp3 sharing. It's about honoring wishes of people who give out the shows. It's not a huge deal, but I think this kills your idea from the other thread about a Fleetwood Mac torrent site. Few Mac fans care about format. It's kind of a wasted effort to start a torrent site if only a few people want to trade uncompressed audio. We can do that on easytree but I wouldn't count on finding too many more hidden shows coming out there. You'll have to hunt these shows down on your own and trade for them the hard way.
I know I'll never share anything again with those who aren't cool to the folks who share.

:wavey:

[WizNicks]

But you're going to tell me about the '**** I have written'?

Two words:
Spelling.
Grammar.

Oh my god, this is so lame! Sorry that I haven't been born in your country and didn't have the privilege to learn your language as my first language! I am pretty sure that my english is way better than your german will ever be!
I hate to arugue with you about all that, but that doesn't help us! Some people that for other people mp3 IS an alternate to trading and the thread about convert files will never end! Can any of you guys tell me how to burn a CD with flac files without converting them (or using a programm which converts them automaticly)?
He didn't say anything about conveerting them to WAVE files, why am I not allowed to convert them to WMA files?
And I also don't want to hear about purists anymore!!! That is absolutely twisted, because you don't need to download the mp3s I have posted! A lot of people are not purists and it really sounds like you want to controll everything, so that not many people can get them and you feel special! That's what the discussion all about! It is not about the taper's request anymore, because I read posts by all kinds of people, except the taper and the seeder!
As I said, this is absolutely sanctimoniously and has nothing to do with the topic anymore! Everybody has to convert the files to burn them and you will never controll bootleg trading, because sooner or later, most of the stuff will get posted as mp3s!

[ricohv]

Twice in one day....Ricohv... :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo:

Thnaks for the smooches. But what'd I do?

[HomerMcvie]

Thnaks for the smooches. But what'd I do?
Your post at 12:49. :)

[bjk3047]

The intensity of these argumants amazes me. Call me another bad-Mac'cer, but really, wtf? First of all-why should we grovel to the person that might have more boots for us?

It's how to play the game. There's no groveling involved, it's just simply adhering to the requests of the taper in terms of file format.

I will try to respect that. But don't be upset if it doesn't stay that way. Once you have given it up to the world to circulate it will change shape and form-not always for the better. MP3s are amongst the most common, easily accessed and played format of online music. So of course its bound to happen.

This is true. I'm well aware of the fact. But the way in which is was done was downright disrespectful. It's one thing to encode it to mp3. It's another to make it available on the internet in mp3. And it's QUITE another thing to in effect say 'Screw you, your request means nothing to me.' If I were the taper, I wouldn't expect groveling. Just a certain amount of respect and discretion.

[bjk3047]

Can any of you guys tell me how to burn a CD with flac files without converting them (or using a programm which converts them automaticly)?
He didn't say anything about conveerting them to WAVE files, why am I not allowed to convert them to WMA files?

Why yes I can. Assuming you use Nero like a lot of peope, here's a plugin for FLAC and SHN among others.
http://neroplugins.cd-rw.org/

WAVE is lossless. WMA is lossy.

[77Rumours77]

Hey ya BITCHES! (JK :lol: )
Keeping with what this thread really was about.. I have some shows to tell ya about..
Gift Of Screws - Lindsey Buckingham
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21527

Buckingham Nicks - Alabama (3 tracks)
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21253&hit=1

Fleetwood Mac - Concord, CA
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21622

Hopefully more will come soon..
ENJOY!

[gldstwmn]

Hey ya BITCHES! (JK :lol: )
Gift Of Screws - Lindsey Buckingham
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21527



Banned. :shocked:

[estranged4life]

Banned. :shocked:

cause it came from a "lossy" source :shrug:

[glitter_fades]

See, that's what happens. I'm sure the seeder didn't know his format was lossy. These torrent traders know their stuff. We can't upload junk without getting banned. We have to know what we've got in our collections. The problem with the mp3 download sites is that many people trade mp3 source cds and later on down the line nobody knows what they have. That's why so little Mac material shows up on the torrents. It's a losing battle if everyone won't cooperate in keeping a few shows in original format. It doesn't mean everything has to stay that way, but if nothing's sacred we're wasting our time trying to keep things trade worthy outside our own circles.

[MacMan]

I remember that Lindsey GOS going up... and it died a fast death on the board once discovered.

Nice to see Concord showing up... Thanks to Kieran!

[nodmod]

Two more shows were upped last night

Lindsey Buckingham - Live in '92 (San Juan?)
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21649&hit=1

Stevie Nicks - Sanctuary Master
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21648&hit=1

[MacMan]

Thanks for the heads up....

Here's another that was put up today:

Live in the Studio 1975 (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21689&hit=1)

This was recorded in a Connecticut studio in December of 1975, broadcast on
WBCN Boston on 1/12/76. The very beginnings of FM with its new lineup, featuring Buckingham & Nicks. Taken from a 1/4 inch reel-to-reel tape with Cool Edit Pro, wavs converted directly to .shn with mkwACT.

Track List

1 - Get Like You Used To Be
2 - Station Man
3 - Spare Me A Little
4 - Rhiannon
5 - Why
6 - Landslide
7 - Over My Head
8 - I'm So Afraid
9 - Oh Well
10 - The Green Manalishi
11 - World Turning

[estranged4life]

Lindsey Buckingham - Live in '92 (San Juan?)
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21649&hit=1


the version that "markbrow" states that he has that he says is sourced from the master tapes before it was broadcast (aka "pre-FM).

[estranged4life]

Thanks for the heads up....

Here's another that was put up today:

Live in the Studio 1975 (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21689&hit=1)

This was recorded in a Connecticut studio in December of 1975, broadcast on
WBCN Boston on 1/12/76. The very beginnings of FM with its new lineup, featuring Buckingham & Nicks. Taken from a 1/4 inch reel-to-reel tape with Cool Edit Pro, wavs converted directly to .shn with mkwACT.

Track List

1 - Get Like You Used To Be
2 - Station Man
3 - Spare Me A Little
4 - Rhiannon
5 - Why
6 - Landslide
7 - Over My Head
8 - I'm So Afraid
9 - Oh Well
10 - The Green Manalishi
11 - World Turning

like to trade for a copy of this since I do not (currently) have the ability to access/download bit-torrents.

Btw, I am planning to start up trading again on the 14th just in case anyone was interested :thumbsup:

[77Rumours77]

Losts of Fm is popping up! I have had a field day with all the U2, Fleetwood Mac, and Aerosmith! Its insane!

[nodmod]

like to trade for a copy of this since I do not (currently) have the ability to access/download bit-torrents.

Btw, I am planning to start up trading again on the 14th just in case anyone was interested :thumbsup:

Hey Brian, just PM'd you

[MacMan]

Yet another Fleetwood Mac Torrent show emerges on easytree for download:


Fleetwood Mac - Buffalo, NY 2003 (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21737&hit=1)

Fleetwood Mac
HSBC Arena
Buffalo, N.Y.
May 15, 2003

Quality: Excellent/ALD recording
Lineage: ALD>?>CDR>EAC Secure>WAV>FLAC 8
Ripped/encoded by joeyjay
No artwork, sorry
File size: 800 MB

*** DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3 OR SELL PLEASE ***

DISC ONE (57:51)
1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Eyes Of The World
4. Peacekeeper
5. Second Hand News
6. Say You Will
7. Never Going Back Again
8. Rhiannon
9. Come Intro
10. Come
11. Gypsy
12. Big Love
13. Landslide

DISC TWO (74:57)
1. Say Goodbye
2. What's The World Coming To
3. Beautiful Child
4. Gold Dust Woman
5. I'm So Afraid
6. Silver Springs
7. Tusk
8. Stand Back
9. Go Your Own Way
10. World Turning
11. Band Intros
12. Don't Stop
13. Goodbye Baby

Thanks for all the Mac and Lindsey stuff being
shared here lately. Keep it coming.

Notes: Really nice show from the Say You Will Tour
apparently recorded with an Assisted Listening
Device. The sound is such that you can hear Lindsey
plugging in his guitar a few times. Sorry that this is a
CDR source. The show was given to me as a gift
purportedly as silver CDs but they're just clever knockoffs
(the gift giver is not hip to the subterfuge of the underground).
Still, the sound and show are outstanding, so I thought
I'd put this out there since I have not seen it shared here.
Do not encode to mp3 or sell, but trade freely and enjoy.
On with the show ...

[sodascouts]

This is all an interesting debate, and I can see both sides. I think we must remember the difference between someone who posts downloads and someone who trades - they are completely separate entities with seperate audiences who put the material to different purposes. David is not encouraging anyone to trade lower quality materials.

Yes, it was questionable behavior to go against the expressed wishes of the sharer. However, as I downloaded the "Who's the New Girl" show off of EZtree today, I noticed that user also posted that he did not want the show converted to MP3. That show has been circulating for years in MP3 format - so what's going on here? Shall we police sites who post that show from now on and try to figure out if they have used the bittorrent as the source and, if so, should we lambaste them for going against the sharer's wishes? It starts getting ridiculous.

If I were David, I would lay off posting bittorrent tracks that request the downloader not to post them as MP3, just to be considerate to the sharer. However, I can't universally condemn him when he's not trying to pass the songs off as higher quality material, just allowing people who don't care about such things access to the show.

If all you're worried about is the quality of shows, make sure you trade with people who meet those standards. Leave the MP3 downloaders alone. JMHO.

[sodascouts]

Also, where was the Sioux City show offered here for trading? There's no thread created for it - is it buried in this thread somewhere?

[estranged4life]

Also, where was the Sioux City show offered here for trading? There's no thread created for it - is it buried in this thread somewhere?

on the thread I started about the final tally of the 2003-2004 SYW shows that are available either as audio discs or DVD's.

Brian j.

ps-Nancy, I sent ya a PM courtesy of yer website's forum

[estranged4life]

posted at easytree:

Fleetwood Mac 1975-12-xx Live in the Studio (shn)

1.Get Like You Used To Be
2.Station Man
3.Spare Me A little
4.Rhiannon
5.Why
6.Landslide
7.Over My Head
8.I'm So Afraid
9.Oh Well
10.The Green Manalishi
11.World Turning


http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21689

[77Rumours77]

posted at easytree:


http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21689

I have this show.. Although I think it is a pretty bad copy! :( I will get the "whos The New Girl" that was posted a while ago later tomorrow!
I already have 2 torrents going! :)
U2 - Chicago 2001
Fleetwood Mac - Concord, CA 2004
ROCK ON!!

[estranged4life]

I have this show.. Although I think it is a pretty bad copy! :( I will get the "whos The New Girl" that was posted a while ago later tomorrow!
I already have 2 torrents going! :)
U2 - Chicago 2001
Fleetwood Mac - Concord, CA 2004
ROCK ON!!

transferring the 2004 California SYW shows from DVD to CDR next week once I have 'em in my possession (I am receiving from the person who posted the 2004 Concord show on easytree.)