Better tickets showing up???

estranged4life · #1 05-04-2003, 11:19 AM

I know someone (Who was a fan club member and is a lurker here) who pulled up 4th row tickets for the OKC yesterday and asked me if I knew anything about it.

Being somehat curious, I went over to tickets.com tried (For awhile the tickets.com website were showing no floor seats were available) and kept pulling up tickets within the first 18 rows of seats on the floor.

I know sometimes people return tickets, cancel ther tickets, etc. , But it seems that some of the tickets are being "rolled out" now. Has anyone else checked on tickets lately for the shows in your respective city/venue to see if better seats are showing up?

Brian J.

WelshWitchPMD · #2 05-04-2003, 11:24 AM

Yep, Brian I scored 8th row center for the Cleveland show on Friday night. Now I just need to get rid of my sec 108 ticket.
I hope that I do as well for the first Worcester show.

estranged4life · #3 05-04-2003, 11:33 AM

Pattie, I'm sticking with my 17th row (FLR 5 Row A) seat since I know where it is located and how great of an advantage point it will be "IF" cameras are allowed.

Brian J.

ps-I pulled up 10th row from the stage just a bit ago, But it was a FLR 3 which is on the west side of the floor seating...(FLR 5 is dead center)

gldstwmn · #4 05-04-2003, 02:01 PM

Brian,
I have been checking TM on and off and yes better seating seems to popping up here and there. Don't know what to attribute it to.

estranged4life · #5 05-04-2003, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Brian,
I have been checking TM on and off and yes better seating seems to popping up here and there. Don't know what to attribute it to.

if the tickets for great seats showing up now are some of the "fan-club" seats that went unsold???

The lurker/former fan-club member (Hey Tammy!!!) I mentioned earlier said she called tickets.com and they are going to release more seats very soon, That has me puzzled as to why tickets.com is NOW going to do that...And the only thing I could guess is that these seats are unsold "fan-club" seats or that the newer seats are ones that were not figured into the equation until the size of the stage setup was figured...

Brian J.

gldstwmn · #6 05-04-2003, 03:54 PM

When is the OKC show? They don't usually release production holds until the last minute. They could be fan club seats that were unsold. Or, they really did hold the better seats back until the end.

ricohv · #7 05-04-2003, 04:27 PM

I know I'm rehashing this again, but all I can say is how terribly disappointing all this is to me. I just bought Seattle tix through presale last week and ended up getting no better seats than I've ever got before without a fanclub or a presale (so this time almost $300 for two tix, plus $60 for fanclub-YIKES!!). I don't have that kind of $ to be frivolous with-I have to budget and save up for this. I've been to every FM or Stevie concert starting w/ Wild Heart Tour (except FM Time Tour), and have tried every possible angle to get great seats and they always allude me.
So just out of curiosity (or to torture myself) I checked online today about tix and could get two on the floor w/o the fanclub. An hour of trying through the fanclub presale and I could get nothing on the floor. I know some of the reasons why that can happen but I thought maybe somehow Karma would reward me for padding the retirement accts of FM members over the years (thousands of dollars on concerts/albums etc) w/ some good seats for once.
So to add to my total concert expense this year I have bought binoculars for $100. $300 2 tix/ $60 fanclub/ $100 binoculars...that's $460 for me and my friend to have a "virtual good seat" concert experience. Good God-If only i had been taken by some other 70's rock heroes like Blue Oyster Cult that I can see playing at a local casino for $17 I would have a retirement acct of my own!

estranged4life · #8 05-04-2003, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gldstwmn
When is the OKC show? They don't usually release production holds until the last minute. They could be fan club seats that were unsold. Or, they really did hold the better seats back until the end.

the OKC show is July 1st, So I kinda figured it probably wasn't seats that were "production holds", But I'm betting on the unsold "fan-club" tickets...Mainly for the reason the whole Dixie Chicks "fan-club" fiasco (Back in early March) was widely reported here on the local TV news stations & radio stations (The D.C. fiasco was as bad as the FM fiasco!!!) and it made music fans aware that joining a "fan-club" to receive great tickets/seats is a big waste of time & money.

Brian J.

Miranda · #9 05-04-2003, 05:25 PM

HELLOOOOOOOOO! Is everybody still living in a dream world regarding this fan club? I didn't join because I heard about the Internet fan clubs selling the bad seats to club members and holding better seats for sale to the public later on. Am I the only one who realized the whole club thing was a flat out scam?

I can't believe all the people still complaining about this club and there are no big news stories like with the Dixie Chicks. The band can't be totally in the dark. They have to know something. Maybe they have no way to stop the fan club from doing whatever. If they sold the rights for $$$$$ they may have given up control of the club. Sad, but probably true.

There is no excuse for misleading the public about ticket sales and about the way the Internet clubs do business. It is false advertising to imply that an online fan club will give you access to better tickets than the general public, or to say that you will get first chance to purchase before the general public without openly telling buyers, first come-best seats, is NOT the way it works. That's the worst part of it all. The clubs say you can purchase before the public. So what? Do they tell everyone paying for the club doesn't mean all seats are available and it doesn't mean you will get better seats than people who didn't pay to join the club? If they fail to reveal information about blocking off good seats in order to sell less desireable seats to fan club members, I'd say that is fraud.

Looks to me like this is what happened with the FM fan club. Most of the seats fan club members got were sold before the majority of the front floor was opened up to the general public. The seats that are appearing now are NOT turn ins or "production holds". These are regular tickets that were held back on purpose so the crummy floor seats would sell first to people who'd buy them no matter what.

Sorry for those of you who got taken. FM should at least apologize for letting this happen to people.

#10 05-04-2003, 05:28 PM

i've been checking ticketmaster EVERYDAY for decent floor seats to continental arena in nj but i've had no luck...as a matter of fact, i'll pull up one ticket just to see if i have any luck that way and it's been giving me the same exact section/seat for the past month...it's very odd...i'm looking for 3 tix but i've been getting different sections for those...most of those have been in the upper levels. i've resorted to ebay and i've had better luck. the problem is, i want 3 tix and it's almost impossible to find someone that's selling 3...it's usually 1, 2 or 4...i may have to tell the third person that i couldn't find tix and just settle for the 2. so far, i'm watching 2 tix 13th row on lindsey's side...the price is $379 for the pair which is about the limit i'll pay...the show is in 3 weeks...i don't want to wait til days before in hopes that ticketmaster will open up some really great seats. i figure at this point i better take what i can get.

Miranda · #11 05-04-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe
...i don't want to wait til days before in hopes that ticketmaster will open up some really great seats. i figure at this point i better take what i can get.

That feeling is what the fan clubs rely on to make their scams work, you know.

At this late date it might not be a bad idea to get what you can needing 3 and the fan club sale being long over for that venue.

GardenStateGirlie · #12 05-04-2003, 06:06 PM

Well, seeing as Ticketmaster is basically the monopoly in entertainment ticket sales, there isn't much that we as the general public can do to change their nazi ways. With Ticketmaster, a certain amount of tickets is allotted to each service: online, telecharge, and fan club. Now, since companies and high-powered executives get first dibs on tickets, the tickets allocated to the general public and EVEN the fan club are limited as far as best seats go. Yes, I agree, there should have been some sort of disclaimer on this. As time goes on and as the concert grows closer, more tickets become available and often at times, they’re better seats than what were first sold due to the fact that some have passed up the tickets. I purchased my tickets to the Philadelphia show the day they went on sale at 10am. It took me 30 minutes to get through on the telephone and when she told me the best she could due was some ridiculous section in the middle of nowhere; I declined and decided to try my luck on the Internet. Tickets weren’t any better on there so I’m in section 110, 22 rows back. I have been periodically checking online at Ticketmaster to see what other seats become available. Two days ago, pit section 2 row 15 was available. This pissed me off. Pissed me off BIG TIME. When a concert is said to be SOLD OUT, it simply isn’t so. A friend of mine tried to get Phish tickets. The concert was supposedly SOLD OUT but he went over to the box office the day of the show before it began and ended up with pit seats. DO NOT be fooled when it says shows are SOLD OUT. Chances are, they aren’t. I have learned my lesson and quite honestly, it’s much better to either wait, or try your hand out at Ebay. I have purchased tickets on Ebay for the AC show and the DC show…pit seats for an incredibly reasonable price. As the show nears, people are more than willing to make deals with you on Ebay in order to get rid of their tickets. This often means a profit loss for them but some people have purchased more than one set of tickets so this means good things for us fans. I plan to go to the box office on show night in Philly and see if they can give me better seats in exchange for my tickets. I suggest on your show nights if your tickets suck ass, you should try and do the same. It could be worth it

gldstwmn · #13 05-04-2003, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe
i've been checking ticketmaster EVERYDAY for decent floor seats to continental arena in nj but i've had no luck...as a matter of fact, i'll pull up one ticket just to see if i have any luck that way and it's been giving me the same exact section/seat for the past month...it's very odd...i'm looking for 3 tix but i've been getting different sections for those...most of those have been in the upper levels. i've resorted to ebay and i've had better luck. the problem is, i want 3 tix and it's almost impossible to find someone that's selling 3...it's usually 1, 2 or 4...i may have to tell the third person that i couldn't find tix and just settle for the 2. so far, i'm watching 2 tix 13th row on lindsey's side...the price is $379 for the pair which is about the limit i'll pay...the show is in 3 weeks...i don't want to wait til days before in hopes that ticketmaster will open up some really great seats. i figure at this point i better take what i can get.

I know how you feel but "when in doubt wait it out." Good luck to you.

laurarox · #14 05-04-2003, 08:46 PM

Yep, just checked Ticketmaster for the Gund in Cleveland. 12th row dead center is now available. That just pisses me off!

I spent 48 hours online during the presale for nothing. I'm just keeping my tickets in row AA. Too late to mess around with it now.

tamaraluvsFM · #15 05-04-2003, 10:04 PM

I keep checking ticketmaster also but am finding nothing "close" for the Columbus show. I did pull up floor 20th row but I will keep my ticket I purchased on the general sale (side but close) which I did better getting that day then the fiasco fanclub sale. Dont get me started on that one!

Tamara

3 more days till the concert!!! WOOHOO