re-arranging say you will

Craig · #1 04-20-2003, 02:01 PM

which order would you put the tracks if you could.

darklinensuit · #2 04-20-2003, 02:34 PM

I posted this recently. Check out "How would you sequence the album?" and let me know your thoughts.

- Jake

Vianna · #3 04-20-2003, 03:55 PM

Not sure except I would not put Bleed to Love Her and Steal Your Heart Away together. They are too similar.

BlueGrass · #4 04-20-2003, 04:23 PM

Switch the two songs @ the end.

Craig · #5 04-20-2003, 04:42 PM

ooops, didnt' see yours.

darklinensuit · #6 04-20-2003, 06:54 PM

Don't sweat it at all --- it's far down now.
From what I posted, I think Lindsey & I would be butting heads in the studio anyway.

- Jake

Christopher · #7 04-21-2003, 11:02 AM

I can totally see now after hearing the CD why Lindsey made that comment about Stevie seeing this CD through dark colors etc. She probably hated the running order...as do I, I think it flows very ineffectively and I find myself jumping around alot from track to track on this CD...This could also be one of the reasons critics are almost across the board very lukewarm on the CD. TISL had much more critical acclaim than SYW has had so far.

I also think the last 2 songs should be switched...Say Goodbye resonates better at the end..

darklinensuit · #8 04-21-2003, 01:48 PM

SG at the end?
That would mean that Lindsey's songs would open and close the album, which I think would be a big issue for Stevie.
Remember, last time LB produced a Mac album Stevie was upset that she wasn't on some of the songs & only a few of her own songs were even included.
I think her old claim of being powerless in this band (true or untrue) has a lot to do with any of the recent fighting between them, particularly in the aftermath of the recent solo "comeback".
I'm glad I wasn't the one who had to work out a compromise between them on how to sequence this album.

- Jake

Bella Figura · #9 04-21-2003, 02:20 PM

I think the recent talk about the album arrangement and Stevie being upset by this probably has to do with the decision to take a double album and make it just one cd. It's just my opinion but I get the feeling that Say Goodbye was supposed to be the last song on one disk and Goodbye Baby the other. Which disk? I won't speculate. I also have a feeling that the songs were originally arranged more like Lindsey, Stevie, Lindsey, Stevie...with songs answering each other or talking about the similar topics...

it will be nice when the original track lists pop up somewhere

BlueGrass · #10 04-21-2003, 02:34 PM

So what who opens and closes, Lindsey did it on the first album and last and Christine did it on Rumours and Mirage. They still have the same #.

DownOnRodeo · #11 04-21-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by BlueGrass
So what who opens and closes, Lindsey did it on the first album and last and Christine did it on Tusk and Mirage. They still have the same #.

I agree - so what!

I'm pretty sure the main point of conflict was related to Murrow, Illume etc being at the front whereas Stevie would like that stuff towards the back. And perhaps also the fact that Lindsey opens with two in a row.

chiliD · #12 04-21-2003, 06:54 PM

Ok, I have heard the whole thing, a few times through...here's my second draft of "retracking"...first draft of the entire album...I'll probably come up with new running orders as I get even more familiar with the album. (Haven't found spots for "Illume" & "Silver Girl", yet...and, of course, don't expect to EVER see "Come" on the list)

WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TO
SAY YOU WILL
BLEED TO LOVE HER
THROWN DOWN (album version)
MIRANDA
EVERYBODY FINDS OUT
RED ROVER
SMILE AT YOU
PEACEKEEPER
DESTINY RULES
MURROW TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
NOT MAKE BELIEVE
STEAL YOUR HEART AWAY
RUNNING THROUGH THE GARDEN
LOVE MINUS ZERO/NO LIMIT
GOODBYE BABY
SAY GOODBYE
*THROWN DOWN (big production version)

*=bonus track & single B-side.

Christopher · #13 04-22-2003, 10:18 AM

Chili-I Like your running order so far...Much Improved, Now, If only they had consulted w/ your sequencing talents...they may have had a much better critically received opening week

You just need to find a place for "Illume" while "Silver Girl" & "Come" should have been on the LE bonus CD.

I also was thinking they could start the CD w/ "Say You Will"...It has that same "Love in Store" opening feeling....and this way Stevie could open the record and Lindsey could close it w/ "Say Goodbye"..In any case..They really messed up on the running order of this CD and I dont know whos to blame (probably Lindsey)...or if its even worth it ,,,But I would of liked to see Stevies running order suggestion.

darklinensuit · #14 04-22-2003, 11:02 AM

My point with the opening & closing comment was that I doubt Stevie, who felt somewhat absent from the Tango album, would feel comfortable with her material being sandwiched inside the album, same # of songs or not. This goes along with Joe's comment that Lindsey had two in a row to open the album, which Stevie probably wouldn't have chosen. I'm not Stevie, just a listener, and I'd prefer the running order if their songs switched to back and forth between them - almost a "Point/Counterpoint" thing. (Stevie, you ignorant slut. LOL)

And if memory serves, Christine did not open or close Rumours, and Stevie's song closes the White FM Album.

- Jake

chiliD · #15 04-22-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by darklinensuit
My point with the opening & closing comment was that I doubt Stevie, who felt somewhat absent from the Tango album...

And whose fault was that? She WAS absent from 95% of the recording sessions for Tango!!

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Originally posted by darklinensuit

....Stevie's song closes the White FM Album.

Ummm..no, "I'm So Afraid" closes the white album...and "Monday Morning" opens it...again, Lindsey has both the opener & closer.