Original audio 1986 RED ROCKS. "TALK TO ME", ""Stand Back," "Outside the rain/Dreams"

TheWildHeart67 · #1 03-05-2017, 11:42 PM

We all know the audio and video footage of the "Red Rocks" video was cleaned up and changed before released. Here's "Talk to me" in it's original form https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5q_ZUbjkx8
"Stand Back" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDZNrSr0sRg
"Outside the rain." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcHsJ4TwTI
"Dreams." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdBgtN2cfY
You can hear the original audio is VERY different from what we have been hearing the past 30 or so years when watching "Live at Red Rocks."
Much of the vocals were obviously redone.
Please post your thoughts after listening to these.
I have read so much about this over the years but only found and listened to the REAL audio tonight.
Some of "Outside the rain" and "Dreams" sounds like the audio on the released video. "Stand Back" is dramatically different, although the ending sounds the same.

24karatstevie · #2 03-06-2017, 02:05 AM

I know the vocals were redone because of the drugs, but I really don't like how they changed the pitch of Stevie's voice on the video. Her voice was deeper during the Rock a Little tour. So I actually kinda like these raw versions, especially Talk to Me.

**SisterNightroad** · #3 03-06-2017, 07:14 AM

I strangely like these too, they're so raw and real.

Macfan4life · #4 03-06-2017, 08:21 AM

Didn't she play Red Rocks twice during this tour? The poster says its from 1987 so there is definitely some confusion. I don't think Stevie sounds that great on the Red Rocks video. I hate the video because its so staged and fake....anything but a live performance. I would not be surprised these are the tapes from that concert but I am not convinced either.

TheWildHeart67 · #5 03-06-2017, 08:24 AM

When Showtime originally aired the concert, it was 1987.

TheWildHeart67 · #6 03-06-2017, 08:27 AM

Also, you can hear some of these vocals match the video. Very few, but a few lines of the vocals weren't dubbed

**SisterNightroad** · #7 03-06-2017, 08:52 AM

She performed three times at Red Rocks during the RAL Tour, the first two were the 25th and the 26th of June 1986, while the third was the 20th of August 1986 and "Stevie Nicks Live At Red Rocks” was filmed this last one time, however new close ups for the home video has been filmed in February 1987 before the actual release.

gldstwmn · #8 03-06-2017, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Didn't she play Red Rocks twice during this tour? .

You are correct.

gldstwmn · #9 03-06-2017, 11:49 AM

I'm not sure why it's a thing that she dubbed her vocals for the release of the video?

**SisterNightroad** · #10 03-06-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

You are correct.

No, as I said above it's three times.

gldstwmn · #11 03-06-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

No, as I said above it's three times.

You win!

bwboy · #12 03-06-2017, 01:35 PM

Wow, that's some pretty rough stuff! Still, it gives me hope that maybe we'll get a more complete audio release of the entire concert, including I Can't Wait, for a Rock a Little rerelease!

Macfan4life · #13 03-06-2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

She performed three times at Red Rocks during the RAL Tour, the first two were the 25th and the 26th of June 1986, while the third was the 20th of August 1986 and "Stevie Nicks Live At Red Rocks” was filmed this last one time, however new close ups for the home video has been filmed in February 1987 before the actual release.

Yes
Could it be possible this audio is from one of the other Red Rocks RAL tour stops?
The RAL tour was a mixed bag. Some nights good and other nights not good. I did not listen to all of these but from the small parts I heard she sounds better than many other RAL tour stops that I have heard.
The RAL Chicago Rhiannon is so sad and the New York Stand Back sad too

IMHO. I suppose I need to listen again because I did not think they were that bad.

**SisterNightroad** · #14 03-06-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Yes
Could it be possible this audio is from one of the other Red Rocks RAL tour stops?
The RAL tour was a mixed bag. Some nights good and other nights not good. I did not listen to all of these but from the small parts I heard she sounds better than many other RAL tour stops that I have heard.
The RAL Chicago Rhiannon is so sad and the New York Stand Back sad too

IMHO. I suppose I need to listen again because I did not think they were that bad.

It actually exists somewhere a bootleg of one of those June dates but I don't think this is it because from what I know that audio hasn't been circulating and these posts have been uploaded on youtube 5 years ago, while it also does exists and was circulating at some point an "unedited/uncut" version of the Red Rocks video concert.
Also as the original poster says and someone here noticed, the first two songs seem to have more of the lines that ended up on the finished product.

Macfan4life · #15 03-06-2017, 04:13 PM

So many pet peeves about Red Rocks.
The annoying floating camera and the endless close face shots with Stevie posing to the camera
The annoying different hair style for the "real" concert and the "touched" close parts
The song selections could have been better.
The totally wasted look of Mick and Peter as they step out of the limo with Stevie (oops we did not know we were going to be on camera)

Although she had one of her best edge walks ever that night and her exorcism style yell during Edge

Stand Back is cool with her "its NOT alright" and her feline cat scratch "Stand Back!" at the end.
Her annoying drunk. sounding "standing in it well you will be standing in it" at the end sounds like she did not know the music ended HAHA