"Valentine"?

[svnwndrs]

Does anyone else know or like this song? It was recorded by Belinda Carlisle for her 1989 album "Runaway Horses" which was produced by none other than the brilliant Rick Nowels, whom as many know is a longtime friend and colleague of Stevie's. I could totally hear Stevie rockin this song. It was also written by Sandy Stewart if I'm not mistaken...

It would be awesome if there was a chance in the future we would come across some sort of outtake recording of Stevie singing it!

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by svnwndrs

Does anyone else know or like this song? It was recorded by Belinda Carlisle for her 1989 album "Runaway Horses" which was produced by none other than the brilliant Rick Nowels, whom as many know is a longtime friend and colleague of Stevie's. I could totally hear Stevie rockin this song. It was also written by Sandy Stewart if I'm not mistaken...

It would be awesome if there was a chance in the future we would come across some sort of outtake recording of Stevie singing it!

Runaway Horses was a good album. Was the song originally written for Stevie?

[svnwndrs]

Not that I'm aware of. I was just saying that it would be really cool if an outtake of her singing it would be unearthed one day. I could definitely picture Stevie doing a version. But I guess we all have dreams of what we wish she would record

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by svnwndrs

Not that I'm aware of. I was just saying that it would be really cool if an outtake of her singing it would be unearthed one day. I could definitely picture Stevie doing a version. But I guess we all have dreams of what we wish she would record

While her cover songs are interesting, revealing her eclectic taste, I prefer her self-penned songs.

That said, I wish she didn't pass on 'These Dreams," which was a massive hit for Heart. Bernie Taupin (Elton John's immensely talented lyricist ) wrote it with Stevie in mind.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

While her cover songs are interesting, revealing her eclectic taste, I prefer her self-penned songs.

That said, I wish she didn't pass on 'These Dreams," which was a massive hit for Heart. Bernie Taupin (Elton John's immensely talented lyricist ) wrote it with Stevie in mind.

I'm glad she passed on These Dreams. The lyrics are corny and cheezy when you read them and I can see why Stevie passed on the song. Plus it would have sounded like she was trying to capitalize on her trademark Dreams.
Nancy Wilson really knocked the ball out of the park on These Dreams. Few could have captured and performed that song the way Nancy did. Stevie's voice was raw and I think the song would not have been a hit with Stevie. Nancy sings the song with a broad and strong voice.
I also wish she would have passed on Talk to me and about 5 others on RAL and stuck to her RAL demos.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I'm glad she passed on These Dreams. The lyrics are corny and cheezy when you read them and I can see why Stevie passed on the song. Plus it would have sounded like she was trying to capitalize on her trademark Dreams.
Nancy Wilson really knocked the ball out of the park on These Dreams. Few could have captured and performed that song the way Nancy did. Stevie's voice was raw and I think the song would not have been a hit with Stevie. Nancy sings the song with a broad and strong voice.
I also wish she would have passed on Talk to me and about 5 others on RAL and stuck to her RAL demos.

Stevie should of recorded These Dreams. Her own writing was pretty bad at the time and she needed good songs. Talk to Me was a great song and I wish that These Dreams would of made it onto a Rock A Little. That album needed it.

[Macfan4life]

I could never imagine Stevie singing anything like:

"I search for the time on a watch with no hands"
"I walk without a cut through a stained glass wall"
"The candle in my grip and words that have no form are falling from my lips"

LMAO Hearing that in her raspy 1985 voice would have been funny. Its the most UN-Stevie song ever. People freak out over the word Laundromat in another song that was written for her. This is much more silly. But maybe she could have done a version of Safety Dance. It was the 80's after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs


Seriously... Stevie needs to stick to her poetry and rock n roll. The endless clichés make it too cheezy for Stevie to sing.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I could never imagine Stevie singing anything like:

"I search for the time on a watch with no hands"
"I walk without a cut through a stained glass wall"
"The candle in my grip and words that have no form are falling from my lips"

LMAO Hearing that in her raspy 1985 voice would have been funny. Its the most UN-Stevie song ever. People freak out over the word Laundromat in another song that was written for her. This is much more silly. But maybe she could have done a version of Safety Dance. It was the 80's after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs


Seriously... Stevie needs to stick to her poetry and rock n roll. The endless clichés make it too cheezy for Stevie to sing.

A lot of Stevie's song lyrics are silly. These Dreams is a well written hit. She needed it.

[On Ice]

I agree that These Dreams was better in Heart's hands and the RAL voice would've killed the song. I think her greatest hit potential at the time was with Mirror Mirror and had it been released earlier in 1984 may have charted, it was and is a great song. Not sure why she shelved it and the great Running Through the Garden.

[olive]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I could never imagine Stevie singing anything like:

"I search for the time on a watch with no hands"
"I walk without a cut through a stained glass wall"
"The candle in my grip and words that have no form are falling from my lips"




Seriously... Stevie needs to stick to her poetry and rock n roll. The endless clichés make it too cheezy for Stevie to sing.

really ...... welcome to the room sara , silver girl , when I see you again but this ......

Papa says... there are clothes to wash
Sister says... brush your hair
You'll go down... to the laundromat
Maybe your sister is there

[Macfan4life]

This is a great thread. I forget sometimes there are the Stevie fans that love the pop or "commercial" side. So I enjoy reading those comments.
I don't think Stevie has ever written a silly song. Even a song like Welcome to the room sara is one of my least favorites. Its not great lyrically or musically. But hardly a silly song and written about one of the most traumatic experiences in her life.
IMHO RAL has way TOO many pop commercial songs that were brought to Stevie. The last thing RAL needed was another sappy commercial song. I wish Running through the Garden and Mirror Mirror took the place of Talk To Me and Some become Strangers.

I think Stevie is one of the best songwriters in rock. Her poetry really works when the right person is behind the arrangements. She has such a catalog of songs I hate when they bring her some crappy pop song.

But its cool. I understand and appreciate some fans love songs like Talk To Me, Everyday, Cry Wolf, etc.

[jeffd8382]

"Valentine" is a great Sandy Stewart track. Another favorite of mine she penned was released the same year by Tina Tuner called "Falling Like Rain" from Tina's 1989 Foreign Affair album. It even had a similar production to "Valentine." Tina and Belinda both had great albums that year.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

This is a great thread. I forget sometimes there are the Stevie fans that love the pop or "commercial" side. So I enjoy reading those comments.
I don't think Stevie has ever written a silly song. Even a song like Welcome to the room sara is one of my least favorites. Its not great lyrically or musically. But hardly a silly song and written about one of the most traumatic experiences in her life.
IMHO RAL has way TOO many pop commercial songs that were btrought to Stevie. The last thing RAL needed was another sappy commercial song. I wish Running through the Garden and Mirror Mirror took the place of Talk To Me and Some become Strangers.

I think Stevie is one of the best songwriters in rock. Her poetry really works when the right person is behind the arrangements. She has such a catalog of songs I hate when they bring her some crappy pop song.

But its cool. I understand and appreciate some fans love songs like Talk To Me, Everyday, Cry Wolf, etc.

Talk to Me was the only reason Rock A Little sold a decent amount of albums. It was a great track with one of her best vocals ever.

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

The last thing RAL needed was another sappy commercial song. I wish Running through the Garden and Mirror Mirror took the place of Talk To Me and Some become Strangers.

I think Stevie is one of the best songwriters in rock. Her poetry really works when the right person is behind the arrangements.

Yes, yes, A MILLION TIMES YES to everything you just said. I'm not sure if it was Jimmy Iovine or someone from her label, but whoever convinced her to scrap her ideas for the "Mirror Mirror" project was an idiot! It could have been her first "concept album" but everyone was more concerned about $$$ than artistry back in the mid 80's...

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I'm glad she passed on These Dreams. The lyrics are corny and cheezy when you read them and I can see why Stevie passed on the song. Plus it would have sounded like she was trying to capitalize on her trademark Dreams.
Nancy Wilson really knocked the ball out of the park on These Dreams. Few could have captured and performed that song the way Nancy did. Stevie's voice was raw and I think the song would not have been a hit with Stevie. Nancy sings the song with a broad and strong voice.
I also wish she would have passed on Talk to me and about 5 others on RAL and stuck to her RAL demos.

On second thoughts, your points make perfect sense! Stevie doesn't need another Dream song. Nancy was more suitable for the song.

What Rock a Little demos did you have in mind?