Shrine '69

Jimi Mac · #1 02-22-2014, 06:42 AM

While not my all-time favorite album of their's, I find something about the tone of the guitars on this album sublime.

At first I perceived it as too bassy, too fat, and hard to listen too... Then I realized something. With all that bass drive going on it was pushing the guttural mood of the music. The bass was coaxing a certain emotional edge from the live performance recorded that night.

Just like I find I like playing my different guitars in different settings and getting different sounds from them based upon my mood, I found from listening to the CD that the bass was driving the tenor of the entire group that day and it is superb.

The version of the first number; "If You Be My Baby" is a powerhouse of gut-wrenching powerful response w/both the audience and the tune...

Followed by a resplendent version of "Something Inside Of Me" by Danny Kirwan that I think is one of the most memorable of all the versions out there exemplifying his 2nd-to-none left hand vibrato technique...

Simply Marvelous!

Wouter Vuijk · #2 02-22-2014, 08:34 PM

Yes, my favourite album as well.

Jimi Mac · #3 02-23-2014, 09:34 AM

stubbie7 · #4 02-24-2014, 04:53 PM

Totally agree with your assessment of "If You Be My Baby" and "Something Inside of Me." The guitar work on SIOM is transcendent. And, I find this version of "Albatross" to be one of my favorites as well. Love this ablbum.

Rick

zoork_1 · #5 02-26-2014, 03:52 PM

Gear wise; If memory serves me right they played Orange amps... :-?

chiliD · #6 02-26-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zoork_1

Gear wise; If memory serves me right they played Orange amps... :-?

In the UK & Europe, yeah. I think they were using the big Fender Dual Showman Reverbs during the US tour.

zoork_1 · #7 02-27-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

In the UK & Europe, yeah. I think they were using the big Fender Dual Showman Reverbs during the US tour.

My memory and big ears tell me Orange were at play at Shrine.
As far as I know, they used (huge) Fender's winter/spring 1970,
I have some pics from Gothenburg and Stockholm confirming that...

Dogon · #8 02-28-2014, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zoork_1

My memory and big ears tell me Orange were at play at Shrine.
As far as I know, they used (huge) Fender's winter/spring 1970,
I have some pics from Gothenburg and Stockholm confirming that...

Yes, it was Orange during springtime -69 and by the autumn northern europe tour they started to implement Fenders of different kinds, whereof I seem to remember that Peter used a Dual Showman head and Fender speaker cabinet of some kind. When they came back to Europe after the US winter/early spring tour they used a massive wall of Dual Showmans, Peter had two heads and two x two 18" speakers. Nice sound!

I read somewhere that they bought the new Fender equipment at Manny's in New York.

zoork_1 · #9 02-28-2014, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogon

Yes, it was Orange during springtime -69 and by the autumn northern europe tour they started to implement Fenders of different kinds, whereof I seem to remember that Peter used a Dual Showman head and Fender... [...].

I read somewhere that they bought the new Fender equipment at Manny's in New York.

Speaking about Fenders and northern europe,
let me dig into my pic's and see what I can find...

My impression is that they went professional (gear wise) at this point of time,
and standardized (requirements) the gear...

Jimi Mac · #10 03-01-2014, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

In the UK & Europe, yeah. I think they were using the big Fender Dual Showman Reverbs during the US tour.

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Originally Posted by zoork_1

Gear wise; If memory serves me right they played Orange amps... :-?

What I can tell you for this particular album; which is a recording of a live performance, is the CD jacket states:

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TECHNICAL NOTES (from human memory):
Recorded January 25th, 1969, from Tychobrae Sound's house sound system using a modified Fairchild mixing console with one line out to an Ampex 2-track recorder. Recorded mono, 2 track, 7-1/2 IPS on Scotch 201 tape. Front of house sound components were JBL speakers. Tape digitally transferred and mastered: no baking or flaking occurred. Every attempt was made to reproduce the live, natural environment and artistry. What would a live show be without musical feedback?

THD · #11 03-01-2014, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimi Mac

What I can tell you for this particular album; which is a recording of a live performance, is the CD jacket states:

TECHNICAL NOTES (from human memory):
Recorded January 25th, 1969, from Tychobrae Sound's house sound system using a modified Fairchild mixing console with one line out to an Ampex 2-track recorder. Recorded mono, 2 track, 7-1/2 IPS on Scotch 201 tape.

2 track but MONO!???!!

dansven · #12 03-01-2014, 11:35 AM

The Shrine performance is great.
Something strange in "If You Be My Baby" - maybe some sort of edit as hear something missing during a solo.

And let's not forget the rude Jeremy Spencer performance that was not included on the official release, but that circulates on bootlegs.

"Great Balls Of Fire", wasn't it?