If You Ever Did Believe Demo Comparisons

[randydesertrat]

There was much speculation in the Reel #1: 16 Track Transfers thread about the "If You Ever Did Believe" track posted there being the same version as the ones on the Master Reels (only slower). It is not the same.

I've gone through all my Rumours era "demo" versions of If You Ever Did Believe and came away with three different mixes. Even though these are frequently labeled as "demo versions" I would call these studio roughs. However one chooses to label them, there are three distinctly different mixes of these roughs - so far. If anyone comes up with yet a different version from this era let me know and I will adjust the info here.

I am reposting the three roughs here with a breakdown of what is different between each mix. There are even more differences than what I list here (like drum beats, vocal placement and so forth) but these are the immediately noticeable highlights. Big differences are highlighted in bold. Most are found in the end "vamp" section during the last minute of the song.

If You Ever Did Believe [Rumours Studio Rough #1]
This is the version found on Master Reel 199

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?h8fe89h80b17cyk

Guitar starts at the 4/4 metered section. No clapping or "yeah" vocal during the intro.

1st Chorus:
And the days go by (lead vocal only)

End Vamp (has 5 lines):
(1) Baby don't leave me (lead vocal with softer harmony)
(2) I'm down on my knees (lead vocal with softer harmony)
(3) Wo oh oh oh don't (lead vocal) leave me (lead vocal with softer harmony)
[THIS ROUGH BEGINS TO FADE OUT HERE]
(4) Wo beggin you to please (lead vocal)
(5) Hey (lead vocal) don't leave me (lead vocal with harmony)


If You Ever Did Believe [Rumours Studio Rough #2]
I am posting two versions of this rough. The first is a slightly faster brighter copy and the second is a slightly slower duller copy. Both however are the same mix.

Brighter Faster Copy:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d73qza787qdxsms

Slower Duller Copy:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?cay8lj50u4a2p9f

Guitar begins in free form then goes into the 4/4 metered section. Includes the hand clapping and the "yeah" vocal during the intro.

1st Chorus:
And the days go by (lead with harmony vocals)

End Vamp (has 6 lines):
(1) Baby don't leave me (lead and loud harmony vocal)
(2) I'm down on my knees (lead and loud harmony vocal)
(3) Wo oh oh oh don't (lead vocal only) leave me (lead and harmony vocal)
(4) Wo beggin you to please (lead vocal only)
(5) Hey don't leave me (lead vocal only)
(6) Don't leave me (lead vocal only)
THIS ROUGH CUTS OFF HERE


If You Ever Did Believe [Rumours Studio Rough #3]
This is the very slow "Reel #1: 16 Track Transfers" version

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?q2g8eerzl9e1gao

Guitar begins in free form then goes into the 4/4 metered section. Includes the hand clapping and the "yeah" vocal during the intro.

1st Chorus:
And the days go by (lead with harmony vocals)

End Vamp (has 8 lines):
(1) Baby don't leave me (lead and harmony vocal)
(2) I'm down on my knees (lead and harmony vocal)
(3) Wo oh oh oh don't (lead vocal only) leave me (lead and harmony vocal)
(4) Wo beggin' you to please (lead and harmony vocal)
(5) Hey (doubled lead vocal) don't leave me (lead and harmony vocal)
(6) Oh (lead vocal) don't leave me (lead and harmony vocal)
(7) Baby don't leave (lead vocal only)
(8) I'm down on my knees (lead vocal only)
THIS ROUGH COMES TO A COMPLETE END

[HighPassion]

Mmm thanks for the information. I kinda thought that too, but didn't want to start a big commotion about it. Thank you for taking the time to do all the research on that