Purported Mac/Stevie releases...

Phil · #1 04-02-2010, 12:08 AM

I was thinking about the aborted Rumours cd/dvd repackage that was originally due a year ago and it occurred to me that there have been quite a few Mac/Stevie projects mentioned by either the members themselves or people associated with them that have yet to see the light of day (and perhaps never will). Some of us hope for and fantasise about remastered versions of the Mac 1980 Live album, Mirage and Tango In The Night but I don't recall any of the band members mentioning this would eventuate - I think we just assumed it would on the strength of the preceding three albums being reissued in 2004. However, I remember the following projects having been discussed in interviews at one point or another:

DVD Audio versions of:

Fleetwood Mac (White Album)
Tusk
Trouble In Shangri-La

(as mentioned by Ken Caillat in the past)

Remastered/Expanded versions of:

Buckingham Nicks

(as mentioned by just about everyone associated with the band for god's knows how many years)

Bella Donna
The Wild Heart
Rock A Little
The Other Side Of The Mirror

(as mentioned by Stevie herself in at least one interview)

Official Releases:

Rhiannon album
(Stevie is on record as saying that the album was completed - recorded and mastered - in the 1980's and yet conversely has also mentioned that the project continues to be a work in progress - didn't she state that her and the girls were working on this in Hawaii a year ago or so?)

A DVD collection of all the Mac promo videos and some live performances
(as mentioned by Ken Caillat on The Ledge some years ago - wasn't there a petition of some sort to get this off the ground?)

Rumours cd/dvd repackage
(originally due in early 2009 and discussed by various members of the band)

That leaves remastered reissues of certain Mac albums (pre and post Buckingham Nicks) and official dvd releases of the Tusk Documentary and Mirage Concert but I can't recall any direct comment on these by the band themselves. So I wonder what the likelihood is of these actually being released?

Dodfather · #2 04-02-2010, 05:11 AM

So is the Rumours cd/dvd officially scrapped then? Has there been actual word of this or, as ever, is it just that they haven't bothered and shouldn;t have opened their mouths with any announcement until things were actually ready to go?! So annoying!

mikebise · #3 04-02-2010, 07:03 AM

Last year, it was actually called a "Rumours boxed set" when the tour was first announced. What was going to be on this thing? More remastering?

November of 2006 was to be The Very Best of Stevie Nicks, which got scrapped to make way for Crystal Visions in March 2007. Totally different track listing, and extra bonus tracks for the UK.

priestofnothing · #4 04-02-2010, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

November of 2006 was to be The Very Best of Stevie Nicks, which got scrapped to make way for Crystal Visions in March 2007. Totally different track listing, and extra bonus tracks for the UK.

I believe the title of this or CV originally was going to be called "Reflections". There even were some press releases with that title before they changed it to Crystal Visions.

skuncles · #5 04-02-2010, 07:39 AM

There was also Stevie's live album. She had been saying in interviews that she was going to Australia to record a live album with the Melbourne Symphony. She was going on and on about how Waddy was working on the arrangements and that some songs like "Beauty & The Beast" were originally recorded with an orchestra so they were a natural. It kept being talking about because it was going to be her first live album. And then there were apparently problems with the recording (the cameras didn't get the first two songs) so she had to redo them. Finally the whole project was scrapped. A couple of the tracks surfaced on "Crystal Visions" but the rest have yet to see light of day (except of course in bootleg form).

Dodfather · #6 04-02-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

Last year, it was actually called a "Rumours boxed set" when the tour was first announced. What was going to be on this thing? More remastering?

November of 2006 was to be The Very Best of Stevie Nicks, which got scrapped to make way for Crystal Visions in March 2007. Totally different track listing, and extra bonus tracks for the UK.

I'd be interested to see what this tracklisting was because the one we got on Crystal Visions is so weird!! Some of the choices are just inexplicable...

mikebise · #7 04-02-2010, 08:49 AM

This is the track listing according to the WEA website:

EDGE OF SEVENTEEN (SINGLE EDIT)
STAND BACK (SINGLE EDIT)
STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND - with Tom Petty
CRYING IN THE NIGHT (SINGLE VERSION) - Buckingham Nicks
LEATHER AND LACE (SINGLE EDIT) - with Don Henley
ROOMS ON FIRE (7" REMIX)
I CAN'T WAIT (SINGLE VERSION)
THE NIGHTMARE (12" VERSION)
NIGHTBIRD (SINGLE VERSION) - * US CD ONLY
DREAMS - Deep Dish featuring Stevie Nicks
PLANETS OF THE UNIVERSE (TRACY YOUNG MIXSHOW)
LONG WAY TO GO (7" REMIX)
TALK TO ME
IF ANYONE FALLS
SORCERER (SHERYL CROW RADIO EDIT) - * US CD ONLY
BLUE DENIM (SINGLE REMIX)
IF YOU EVER DID BELIEVE (RADIO EDIT)
AFTER THE GLITTER FADES - * US CD ONLY
MAYBE LOVE (SINGLE REMIX) - * NOT ON US CD
EVERY DAY - * NOT ON US CD
HAS ANYONE EVER WRITTEN (LIVE FROM RED ROCKS) - * NOT ON US CD

This was to have been released on November 2, 2006. Nathan would have loved all of those single edits!

mikebise · #8 04-02-2010, 08:52 AM

Interesting that "Long Way To Go" was on the US release also, since it was not a US single.

tilthefirefades · #9 04-02-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather

I'd be interested to see what this tracklisting was because the one we got on Crystal Visions is so weird!! Some of the choices are just inexplicable...

Very true, like how she dropped her solo ballads only to replace them with FM's. Yet she includes Rhiannon, but gives a live version only. I also don't understand why she would put Rock & Roll instead of I Need To Know since that seems to be a more likely choice considering it is her signature rock cover. And then POTU instead of Every Day? Which wasn't a mistake but I do believe Every Day was intended to be a mainstream hit

mikebise · #10 04-02-2010, 09:09 AM

The Very Best of Stevie Nicks (US Version)
1. Edge of Seventeen - Single Edit
2. Stand Back - Single Edit
3. Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
4. Crying In The Night - Single Version
5. Leather and Lace - Single Edit
6. Rooms on Fire - 7" Remix
7. I Can't Wait - US Single Version
8. The Nightmare - 12" Version
9. Nightbird - Single Version
10. Dreams - Deep Dish featuring Stevie Nicks
11. Planets of The Universe - Tracy Young Mixshow
12. Long Way To Go - 7" Remix
13. Talk To Me
14. If Anyone Falls
15. Sorcerer - Sheryl Crow Radio Edit
16. Blue Denim - Single Remix
17. If You Ever Did Believe - Radio Edit
18. After The Glitter Fades

The Very Best of Stevie Nicks (UK Version)
1. Edge of Seventeen - Single Edit
2. Stand Back - Single Edit
3. Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
4. Crying In The Night - Single Version
5. Leather and Lace - Single Edit
6. Rooms on Fire - 7" Remix
7. I Can't Wait - UK Single Version
8. The Nightmare - 12" Version
9. Dreams - Deep Dish featuring Stevie Nicks
10. Planets of The Universe - Tracy Young Mixshow
11. Long Way To Go - 7" Remix
12. Talk To Me
13. If Anyone Falls
14. Blue Denim - Single Remix
15. If You Ever Did Believe - Radio Edit
16. Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind - Single Remix
17. Every Day
18. Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You? - Live From Red Rocks

Dodfather · #11 04-02-2010, 09:56 AM

Have commented on this tracklisting in the thread you started for it...

David · #12 04-02-2010, 10:56 AM

Right before the band decided to compile a "Fleetwood Mac Live" with cuts from various venues & tours, the plan -- announced frequently in the L.A. Times -- was to record the then-upcoming Hollywood Bowl shows & release a Hollywood Bowl live album. Would have been really cool, even cooler than the scattershot FM Live (even though that has some photos from the Bowl shows).

I don't believe it was ever considered, but I'd have loved a Stevie Nicks live album from the 1983 tour. Tracks from the late September & October gigs alone would have been so wonderful to me that I'd still be listening to them to this day.

The fact that Live in Boston didn't exactly light up the night sky may have been the reason that the Unleashed tour wasn't recorded for anything: DVD, CD, or even radio simulcast.

mikebise · #13 04-02-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by David

I don't believe it was ever considered, but I'd have loved a Stevie Nicks live album from the 1983 tour. Tracks from the late September & October gigs alone would have been so wonderful to me that I'd still be listening to them to this day.

You and me both, David! I still listen to my audience recordings from that era. NO "Gypsy" will ever match that Fall 1983 era!!!!!

Dodfather · #14 04-03-2010, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by David

The fact that Live in Boston didn't exactly light up the night sky may have been the reason that the Unleashed tour wasn't recorded for anything: DVD, CD, or even radio simulcast.

If this is the reason then that's really sad - and just a bit stupid! Live In Boston maybe didn't sell loads because it was an expensive, 2 dvd 1cd package that would have cost quite a bit to produce and was from a tour supporting a new album so would not be bought by everyone's parents as an essential dvd. Generalising here but you know what I mean.

Like it or not, The Dance works because it is a hits collection, which is what a lot of casual fans want.

If they just released a basic dvd of Unleashed it could sell really well! Look how well the Very Best of sold, and has always sold, in comparison to newer material.

Gazz · #15 04-03-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skuncles

There was also Stevie's live album. She had been saying in interviews that she was going to Australia to record a live album with the Melbourne Symphony. She was going on and on about how Waddy was working on the arrangements and that some songs like "Beauty & The Beast" were originally recorded with an orchestra so they were a natural. It kept being talking about because it was going to be her first live album. And then there were apparently problems with the recording (the cameras didn't get the first two songs) so she had to redo them. Finally the whole project was scrapped. A couple of the tracks surfaced on "Crystal Visions" but the rest have yet to see light of day (except of course in bootleg form).

The word here in Melbourne (press interview with a MSO manager) was that the concert didn't go all that well from the MSO's perspective - Waddy and the band drowned them out basically, so I think this one was abandoned becuase the MSO wouldn't approve it.