Let's Talk About Gypsy. Repeatedly... ;)

Ghost_Tracker · #1 10-09-2009, 08:23 PM

Uhmm, so isn't it time for a thread about "Gypsy?"

GypsyBlueEyes · #2 10-09-2009, 08:57 PM

ohhhhhhh Gypsy! Can I even tell you how much I love Gypsy??? I love everything about it...I incorporate it into everything from my usernames, my email, my msn messenger, the tattoo I'm going to get...I LOVE IT!

"So I'm back, to the velvet
underground
Back to the floor, that I love
To a room with some lace
and paper flowers
Back to the gypsy
that I was
To the gypsy...
that I was"

For me the "back to the gypsy that I was" is just about always remembering the truest part of yourself no matter where you are or what you're doing. People grow, get older, get wiser, experience things small and large...they change. I think Gypsy is about being able to hold on to who you were before all of that...the bit of our youth that remains inside of us.

"And it all comes down to you
Well, you know that it does
Well, lightning strikes,
maybe once, maybe twice
Ah, and it lights up the night
And you see your gypsy
You see your gypsy"

That sounds as though she is talking to someone else, someone who was with her during that period who she has had an on and off again relationship (I got that from the lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice part...sounds like a relationship where it didn't work out but at some point they gave it a second chance.) Anyway, its about that person finding in her that part of her that they used to love (them seeing their gypsy).

"To the gypsy that remains
faces freedom with a little fear
I have no fear, I have only love
And if I was a child
And the child was enough
Enough for me to love
Enough to love"

I think in this part she is addressing herself again as she faces the future. The child she refers to could be that "inner gypsy," the person she used to be when she was young, before she became so successful. When she says "if the child was enough, enough for me to love" reminds me of a longing she has to be that person again.

"She is dancing away from me now
She was just a wish
She was just a wish
And a memory is all
that is left for you now
You see your gypsy
You see your gypsy"

I think all of that part is about accepting that she can't go back but that she still keeps that memory of her younger self and who she was at that time close to her heart (she is aware that that part of who she was is still inside her at her core)

The rest of the song is a bit more difficult...

In the end of the song she goes back to the "lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice" bit and the "it all comes down to you" bit again, which to me sounds as though she is again addressing the same person who was there with her in the beginning. She then says "I still see your bright eyes." All of this put together suggests that she is talking about Lindsey - I've always believed that they had a fling here and there and we've all heard her make reference to his eyes before. At one point she said the "I still see your bright eyes" part was about Robin...personally, I don't think that makes much sense because randomly throwing Robin in there at the end kind of destroys the continuity of the whole song. We are talking about Stevie though...and her lyrics are never just about one thing...so it does sound like something she would do. All-in-all, I think its more than possible that this was written at a time when she thought she and Lindsey might reconcile or at a time when they'd had a little fling.

daniellaaarisen · #3 10-09-2009, 10:03 PM

She apparently wrote this about her and Lindsey's house in MY TOWN. THE CITY THAT I LIVE IN.

Hence why Marissa and I are going to San Jose State when she's here over Halloween weekend and we are going to find her address from that time period. I'm determined.

LukeA · #4 10-09-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

Hence why Marissa and I are going to San Jose State when she's here over Halloween weekend and we are going to find her address from that time period. I'm determined.

I really would rather not think that this beautiful song was inspired in any way by San Jose or its immediate outliers... ughhhhh

I've shared this in another thread, but has anyone noticed that the same sets used in the "Gypsy" video are also used in the video for The Motels/"Only The Lonely"? Same director/time period..

vivfox · #5 10-09-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

She apparently wrote this about her and Lindsey's house in MY TOWN. THE CITY THAT I LIVE IN.

Hence why Marissa and I are going to San Jose State when she's here over Halloween weekend and we are going to find her address from that time period. I'm determined.

Menlo Park in Atherton, right?

vivfox · #6 10-09-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

She apparently wrote this about her and Lindsey's house in MY TOWN. THE CITY THAT I LIVE IN.

BTW Los Gatos in Spanish means The Cats, right?

FMlex · #7 10-09-2009, 11:58 PM

One thing's for sure - I've never seen anyone get so excited about stuffed animals:

Hahaha. Oh, '83-high-Stevie, I love you.

No, but for real... I love the music video!

Lala · #8 10-10-2009, 12:01 AM

Oh yes, let's...

My second favourite FM song, second only to Sara (of course).

My favourite part is the second verse. Especially the "And it all comes down to you/Lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice" part. It's my ringtone.

Discovered the song after a really good friend (who is now my foster sister) moved away to school. I was pretty broken up about what the distance was going to do to our relationship, and change in general. And my mom bought me a copy of the Dance on DVD to try and cheer me up (this was early in the FM Fandom), and that version of the song was so comforting to me. To this day, I have a soft spot for the Dance version of Gypsy...so light and simple.

Of course, I love the studio version...especially the extended version from the Chain box with the "I can't find you's" at the end. Breaks my freaking heart!

So the song jointly reminds me of my sister and is hugely inspiring to me.

The video sparked a deep love of pink/purple sunsets. I love going for a drive and watching the sun go down and listening to this song.

Can someone clarify the timeline on this. I believe Stevie wrote it during the Tusk tour, then worked on it for Bella Donna, but it ended up on Mirage? Is there any truth to Robin's illness giving the song new meaning for her, of is that more speculation?

daniellaaarisen · #9 10-10-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeA

I really would rather not think that this beautiful song was inspired in any way by San Jose or its immediate outliers... ughhhhh

Most suburbs of San Jose are nothing special (actually, I really don't like the south bay, especially in comparison to the peninsula), but Los Gatos is a great great town.

Viv-- she went to high school in Menlo Park but apparently lived in Los Gatos in the Fritz days. I really hope this is true-- I am legitimately in the heart of it so I can't be more than a few miles away from where they lived!

vivfox · #10 10-10-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FMlex

One thing's for sure - I've never seen anyone get so excited about stuffed animals:

This is one video I've never seen B4. Where was this filmed?

GypsyBlueEyes · #11 10-10-2009, 12:19 AM

^ Thats from the Landover, Maryland concert.

LukeA · #12 10-10-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

Most suburbs of San Jose are nothing special (actually, I really don't like the south bay, especially in comparison to the peninsula), but Los Gatos is a great great town.

Los Gatos is a town where those who have high paying jobs at some of the larger, more notable companies of the south bay settle & reside, but that fact alone doesn't make it a "great, great town". Move it a hundred miles away from San Francisco and its basically a glorified Fresno. I don't know why anyone would prefer Los Gatos over, say, Tiburon... unless, of course, they worked at Apple, Google, etc.

daniellaaarisen · #13 10-10-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeA

Los Gatos is a town where those who have high paying jobs at some of the larger, more notable companies of the south bay settle & reside, but that fact alone doesn't make it a "great, great town". Move it a hundred miles away from San Francisco and its basically a glorified Fresno. I don't know why anyone would prefer Los Gatos over, say, Tiburon... unless, of course, they worked at Apple, Google, etc.

Tiburon is waaaaaaaaaay more expensive. Tiburon is in a great location but Los Gatos is still only 15-20 minutes from Santa Cruz on a good day. They're just two very different places-- Tiburon isn't really even in "Sillicon Valley" and most people who live there are either retired or work in San Francisco. It isn't really marketable to anyone else because it is pretty far away from everything. Los Gatos is just much more accessible which, as you said, is a reason that people would prefer it.... they aren't really comparable, I think, because they serve two very different groups of people.

And in terms of Fresno..... Los Gatos and Fresno are nothing alike at all. Even if you take proximity out of the equation, Los Gatos is still in a totally different league than Fresno IMO.

Dodfather · #14 10-10-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeA

Los Gatos is a town where those who have high paying jobs at some of the larger, more notable companies of the south bay settle & reside, but that fact alone doesn't make it a "great, great town". Move it a hundred miles away from San Francisco and its basically a glorified Fresno. I don't know why anyone would prefer Los Gatos over, say, Tiburon... unless, of course, they worked at Apple, Google, etc.

What is your problem?! She lives somewhere and she thinks it's a great town, good for Dani! Especially in light of the Stevie connection. What right do you have to be all sarcastic about her opinion?! Is there anything anyone posts on here that you don't take issue with? Everything from a thread being slightly, maybe, possibly related to a thread that has come before it or you don't like someone's comments about their own town? Jeez...

Dodfather · #15 10-10-2009, 04:41 AM

Getting back to Gypsy, and apologies if my above post changed the tone of the threadsomewhat...

I LOVE this song. It's my favourite Stevie Mac moment and quite possibly my favorite Mac track. When I hear it live in October I think it will just be one of the best moments for me ever.

My favourite moment is about 1:30 in with the "Oh and it lights up the night..." it's just fantastic.

To answer a previous poster I think that the Robin stry and adding the extra lines is true, Stevie has confirmed it may times.