The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Chit Chat
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-01-2007, 01:26 PM
danax6 danax6 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stevie's nether land.
Posts: 4,839
Default Absolutely absurd...

We will be subjected to this horror in about 10 minutes.
--------

Contestants to vie for kidney on reality show

Dutch program, aiming to call attention to donor shortage, called tasteless

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - A Dutch reality show that claims to be trying to draw attention to a shortage of organ donors said Tuesday it would go ahead with a program in which a terminally ill woman will choose a contestant to receive one of her kidneys.

The program, “Big Donor Show,” has been attacked as unethical and tasteless. One member of the Dutch parliament suggested the government should block Friday’s broadcast.

“We know that this program is super controversial and some people will think it’s tasteless, but we think the reality is even more shocking and tasteless: Waiting for an organ is just like playing the lottery,” Laurens Drillich, chairman of the BNN network, said in a statement.

He said waiting lists in the Netherlands are more than four years long and 200 patients die annually for lack of a donor.

The network identified the donor as “Lisa,” a 37-year-old woman with an inoperable brain tumor. During the show, she will hear interviews with the three candidates, their families and friends before choosing who will get her kidney.

The show is being produced by Endemol NV, the creator of the “Big Brother” series.

A spokeswoman for BNN said that there could be no guarantees the donation would actually be made, “but the intention is” Lisa’s donation would be carried out before she died.

That is because her wish to donate to a particular candidate “wouldn’t be valid anymore after her death” under Dutch donation rules, Marieke Saly said. If Lisa does donate one kidney while living, the other kidney may still be awarded to someone else on a national donation waiting list under the country’s organ allotment system.

Viewers will be able to vote for the candidate they feel is most deserving via SMS text message, but “Lisa will determine who the happy one is,” BNN said in a statement.

Saly could not say how much it will cost to send an SMS, but most TV programs charge around $1.35.

Joop Atsma, a lawmaker of the ruling Christian Democrats, raised the issue in parliament, asking the government whether the program violated any law.

“Is it desirable that public broadcasting would go down this path, and is there no way to send a strong signal that we reject this?” he said.

Education Minister Ronald Plasterk, addressing parliament on behalf of the government because the health minister was ill, replied that there were serious questions about whether the transplant would actually go through as BNN has advertised it — but that there was no way to stop the program from airing.

“The information I have right now tells me that the program is unfitting and unethical, especially due to the competitive element, but it’s up to program makers to make their choices,” he said.

“The constitution forbids me from interfering in the content of programs: Let there be no mistake about that, that would be censorship.”

He said that there were practical barriers.

“In every transplant the tissue of the donor and the patient must match as much as possible,” Plasterk said. “The doctors in this program can’t make any concessions on that front.”

There also was doubt whether Lisa’s organs could be donated at all because it might spread her cancer, he said.

“So it’s very possible that in practical terms we’re not talking about anything here, because it’s possible this transplant can’t take place,” he said.

Noting the shortage of donors, he said it was a good time for a debate on the question of what incentives to donate are ethical.

He cited the example of a Dutch funeral home that is offering discounts to the families of people who were registered as donors, and an idea presented by the country’s Kidney Institute to give registered donors preference on organ waiting lists.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18919768/
Reply With Quote
.
  #2  
Old 06-01-2007, 01:32 PM
JazmenFlowers's Avatar
JazmenFlowers JazmenFlowers is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: underneath all those rags...lavishly cocooned
Posts: 12,631
Default

omg, this is horrible. I was waiting for a reality show like this to pop up. or one where the contestants actually kill each other to win money.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-01-2007, 01:53 PM
danax6 danax6 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stevie's nether land.
Posts: 4,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers View Post
omg, this is horrible. I was waiting for a reality show like this to pop up. or one where the contestants actually kill each other to win money.
I'm watching this now and I don't know whether to laugh, cry or vomit. Here's this woman virtually playing God by deciding who gets to live. She's walking around going "you're too old", "you're a smoker", you don't deserve to have a prolonged life by getting my kidney.

WTF.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-01-2007, 01:58 PM
michelle2677's Avatar
michelle2677 michelle2677 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: at the railway station, waiting
Posts: 7,804
Default

has she told anyone they can't have it because they are not one of the "pretty people"
__________________
Photobucket
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-01-2007, 01:58 PM
DrummerDeanna DrummerDeanna is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 10,499
Default

Wow. I don't even know what to say! That is apalling to me.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-01-2007, 02:02 PM
DavidMn DavidMn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Minneapolis Minnesota
Posts: 13,872
Default

Faces Of Death anyone?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Grunn, Netherlands
Posts: 2,900
Default

*not watching*

They've got ONE point though, the organ donation situation in this country is just as depressing.

I can't believe this is for real, I'll bet at the end they'll admit it's all a hoax... I hope they will!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-01-2007, 02:33 PM
danax6 danax6 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stevie's nether land.
Posts: 4,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mari View Post
I can't believe this is for real, I'll bet at the end they'll admit it's all a hoax... I hope they will!
Exactly what I just told my dad. I called him asking if this was the newest 'Jiskefet' episode. I just cannot take it seriously.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-01-2007, 02:47 PM
danax6 danax6 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stevie's nether land.
Posts: 4,839
Default

YES!

It was a joke. Okay, my respect for BNN has returned. This is kinda brilliant, the whole country has been talking about this for weeks, they definitely raised awareness for the matter.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-01-2007, 02:52 PM
JazmenFlowers's Avatar
JazmenFlowers JazmenFlowers is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: underneath all those rags...lavishly cocooned
Posts: 12,631
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danax6 View Post
YES!

It was a joke. Okay, my respect for BNN has returned. This is kinda brilliant, the whole country has been talking about this for weeks, they definitely raised awareness for the matter.
what are they raising awareness of?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-01-2007, 02:54 PM
DrummerDeanna DrummerDeanna is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 10,499
Default

Glad it was a joke! Because the concept was quite disturing. *phew*
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-01-2007, 03:00 PM
danax6 danax6 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stevie's nether land.
Posts: 4,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers View Post
what are they raising awareness of?
That there are far too many people on the organ donor waiting list and that far too few people are registered as willing to donate.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-01-2007, 03:08 PM
JazmenFlowers's Avatar
JazmenFlowers JazmenFlowers is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: underneath all those rags...lavishly cocooned
Posts: 12,631
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danax6 View Post
That there are far too many people on the organ donor waiting list and that far too few people are registered as willing to donate.
oh, I see.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-01-2007, 03:15 PM
Wild_Heart03's Avatar
Wild_Heart03 Wild_Heart03 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Mattress World
Posts: 1,858
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danax6 View Post
YES!

It was a joke. Okay, my respect for BNN has returned. This is kinda brilliant, the whole country has been talking about this for weeks, they definitely raised awareness for the matter.
that is, admittedly, a great way to get some attention. When I read your first post I just thought "wtf? ".
__________________
**Nick**

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-01-2007, 03:19 PM
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Grunn, Netherlands
Posts: 2,900
Default

Knew it! BNN are too smart for this.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Signed John McVie Mick Fleetwood Mac Autographed Rolling Stone Magazine Auto PSA picture

Signed John McVie Mick Fleetwood Mac Autographed Rolling Stone Magazine Auto PSA

$499.99



Fleetwood Mac ~ Mick Fleetwood / John McVie Signed 11x14 Photo Page with JSA COA picture

Fleetwood Mac ~ Mick Fleetwood / John McVie Signed 11x14 Photo Page with JSA COA

$299.94



JOHN MCVIE HAND SIGNED 8x10 PHOTO AUTOGRAPHED FLEETWOOD MAC BASSIST RARE BAS COA picture

JOHN MCVIE HAND SIGNED 8x10 PHOTO AUTOGRAPHED FLEETWOOD MAC BASSIST RARE BAS COA

$127.49



Mick Fleetwood John McVie autographed Fleetwood Mac album vinyl proof Beckett picture

Mick Fleetwood John McVie autographed Fleetwood Mac album vinyl proof Beckett

$949.99



Authentic Touring Fleetwood Mac John McVie  Vintage Tour Guitar Pick picture

Authentic Touring Fleetwood Mac John McVie Vintage Tour Guitar Pick

$116.62




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved