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Old 06-16-2006, 04:00 PM
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Canada is preoccupied lately with the group of young people who plotted in Al-Q fashion to blow up and behead in Toronto and Ottawa. I think most of us wish that Muslim-Canadians would be more a part of Canada in that they will alert if not deal with problems they are uniquely aware of within their culture and/or community. I think many are offended at Muslims whose reactions to Muslim violence is to tell Canadians to look at the situation we have created. Who say we need to understand Islam. Well, like Holland, Canada in the later half of the twentieth century has traditionally been very liberal and welcoming. There are no white people in Indonesia and Muslims are blowing up stuff and people there, so I don't think we are much of the problem at all and that the problem is something from a culture outside of Canada or Holland. I have done quite a bit in learning about Islam actually, but coming into my country and demanding I learn and conform to you and your foreign religion is not very balanced, or much of a solution to the problems you bring here. Holland had a political candidate killed by a proclaimed Muslim. They have since taken the unprecedented for them steps of requiring Muslim immigrants to learn Dutch, to conform to the scales of bodily exposure and social institutions they have, or else you are deported, to somewhere more hospital to your culture. If I go to Saudi Arabia I do not dare drink, or show my hair or body much. The fact that U.S. forces on their bases in S.A. did drink and have skin magazines etc. has been used as grounds for the current holy war, that the infidels defiled their land. It is looking like we may well have to demand some changes of Muslims to fit in within our countries. In canada we have even allowed Sikh youths to carry daggers into schools as supposed religious and cultural symbols, but the tide will turn if we keep getting back to much accusations and blame and lawsuits, just as it has in Holland where they are deporting thousands of Muslims who will not conform. I would love to have people be free to dress and live as they choose, but if they are going to be so little a part of our society I have no idea why they would want to be here at all and live so aggrieved and offended. I think we just want to be met half way. If you have problems with Holland and Denmark and Canada about intolerance, well, I think it is you who have something to learn. Right now what people are learning is that it may be time to rethink our openness. It's a sad time when that's what we are thinking.

Eastern cultures often do not allow Mothers to control their sons in any way. this a problem over there and everywhere else they are, with Palestinian teens throwing rocks in streets decade after decade, and Hindu men demanding huge dowries for arranged marriage brides they care nothing for. Leaving Mothers out of social power is not part of our western culture, and doing so is not welcomed here anymore than removing parts of female genitalia. There are a few things, but mainly violence, that we cannot accept here. I am proud to be Canadian for the most part and I think we usually do well at seeing our faults, but we need to be met half way at this time. We do not owe any uimmigrant any percentage of jobs or opportunities just for coming here or minorities for merely being born. We have a great debt to Native Americans, but that does not equate to all non-white people. I think that distinction needs to be made by the most lib eral people in our country at this time. We have given a lot to and we have gotten a lot from people of other cultures and I hpe we remain accountable. But when a person of your culture does something wrong the best reaction is not to blame people of a very different culture for not giving even more, you will break our backs as you have apparently broken Holland's and France's. Do we have a problem like this with Hungarians? Do we have a problem like this with Buddhists? You learn to discriminate in order to survive in the real world, if you have bad experiences with a certain kind of person you will avoid people similar to them. The world is learning to not want Muslims. Maybe you all should try learning about us or if not stay where only your culture is dominant.
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