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Old 05-28-2006, 05:28 PM
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HIV's ancestry traced to wild chimps

By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer Thu May 25, 8:56 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Twenty-five years after the first
AIDS cases emerged, scientists have confirmed that the
HIV virus plaguing humans really did originate in wild chimpanzees, in a corner of Cameroon.
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Solving the mystery of HIV's ancestry was dirty work. Scientists employed trackers to plunge through dense jungle and collect the fresh feces of wild apes — more than 1,300 samples in all.

Before that, it took seven years of research just to develop the testing methods to genetically trace the primate version of the virus in living wild chimps without hurting the endangered species.

Until now, "no one was able to look. No one had the tools," said Dr. Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama at Birmingham. She led the team of international researchers that reported the success in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

"We're 25 years into this pandemic," Hahn said. "We don't have a cure. We don't have a vaccine. But we know where it came from. At least we can make a check mark on one of those."

Scientists long have known that nonhuman primates carry their own version of the AIDS virus, called SIV or simian immunodeficiency virus. But with one exception, it had been found only in captive chimpanzees, particularly a subspecies that in the wild populates mostly West Africa.

It was not known how prevalent the virus was in chimps in the wild, or how genetically or geographically diverse it was, complicating efforts to pin down the jump from animal to man.

Hahn's team tested chimp feces for SIV antibodies, finding them in a subspecies called Pan troglodytes troglodytes in southern Cameroon.

Chimps tend to form geographically distinct communities. By genetically analyzing the feces, researchers could trace individual infected chimps. The team found some chimp communities with infection rates as high as 35 percent, while others had no infection at all.

Every single infected chimp had a common base genetic pattern that indicated a common ancestor, Hahn said.

There are three types of HIV-1, the strain of the human virus responsible for most of the worldwide epidemic. Genetic analysis let Hahn identify chimp communities near Cameroon's Sanaga River whose viral strains are most closely related to the most common of those HIV-1 subtypes.

"The genetic similarity was striking," Hahn said.

The first human known to be infected with HIV was a man from Kinshasa in the nearby country of Congo who had his blood stored in 1959 as part of a medical study, decades before scientists knew the AIDS virus existed.

Presumably, someone in rural Cameroon was bitten by a chimp or was cut while butchering one and became infected with the ape virus. That person passed it to someone else.

The Sanaga River long has been a commercial waterway, for transporting hardwood, ivory and other items to more urban areas. Eventually, someone infected made it to Kinshasa.

"How many different transmission events occurred between that initial hunter and this virus making it to Kinshasa, I don't know. It could have been one, it could have been 10, it could have been 100," Hahn said. "Eventually, it ended up in an urban area, and that's where it really got going."

Somewhere in all that spread, the virus became more deadly to people than it is to chimps, who seldom are bothered much by SIV.

The research seems to settle any question of HIV's origin, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the
National Institutes of Health's AIDS chief.
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I had heard the theory that the virus was originally transmitted via the natives eating monkeys for food. Guess that was wrong?
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That's what I was thinking! C'mon, have a sense of homer(
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That's what I was thinking! C'mon, have a sense of homer(that was a typo- but I like it, so I'm leaving it!)....
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you liked it so much we get to see it twice just razzin ya Homie!
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you liked it so much we get to see it twice just razzin ya Homie!
No. Did you know that you can't use the "backwards arrow" in your text??? The board kept erasing everything AFTER my backwards arrow, so I kept hitting edit, and it eventually posted it twice.
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No. Did you know that you can't use the "backwards arrow" in your text??? The board kept erasing everything AFTER my backwards arrow, so I kept hitting edit, and it eventually posted it twice.
D'OH! how often do you use a backwards arrow in writing? I have yet to need it but then, I lead a sheltered life
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D'OH! how often do you use a backwards arrow in writing? I have yet to need it but then, I lead a sheltered life
I was pointing back to my typo with the backwards arrow, yet everything after it kept disappearing! It took me a couple of edits to figure out that the arrow was the culprit. Who knew?
I'm going to type "test" with the arrow,three times now(god, how bored am I? )

edit-see the first arrow shows up......three "tests", and two "arrows" are missing!
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I was pointing back to my typo with the backwards arrow, yet everything after it kept disappearing! It took me a couple of edits to figure out that the arrow was the culprit. Who knew?
I'm going to type "test" with the arrow,three times now(god, how bored am I?

edit-see the first arrow shows up......three "tests", and two "arrows" are missing!
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weird.....they show up in "quote" mode....on this screen anyway (before I post that is....) Im gonna quote them:

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by gum, Homester, they arent cooperating! how strange!
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Well, I'm guessing that by finding the source, there's a possibilty of finding the cure. Fingers crossed, everyone.
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Sorry if I don't see any humor in AIDS.
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