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Old 12-21-2005, 06:00 PM
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Conyers introduces Bills to censure Bush and Cheney

The "I" word has returned to Washington. Seven years to the week after the House of Representatives impeached President Clinton, discussion of the possible impeachment of President Bush has reached a new high.
In recent days, Senator Barbara Boxer, Congressmen John Lewis and John Conyers, Nixon's former White House Counsel John Dean as well as numerous legal scholars have suggested Bush has committed impeachable offenses by illegally ordering the National Security Agency to eavesdrop inside the country without a court warrant.

Even conservative legal scholars have admitted the severity of Bush's actions. Norm Ornstein, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, said "I think if we're going to be intellectually honest here, this really is the kind of thing that Alexander Hamilton was referring to when impeachment was discussed."

Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California said she had written to several constitutional scholars to ask whether Bush had committed an impeachable offense by ordering the warrant-less domestic spying.

Boxer's request came after former White House John Dean said Bush had become "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

Earlier this week Democratic Congressman John Conyers introduced measures to censure President Bush and Vice President Cheney - not for the domestic spying case but for misleading lawmakers on the decision to go to war in Iraq.

Conyers is also seeking the creation of a select committee to investigate the Administration's possible crimes and make recommendations regarding grounds for impeachment.

To back up his case Conyers has just released a reported titled "The Constitution in Crisis: The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution and Coverups in the Iraq War."

To support Conyers" efforts activists have also launched a website this week titled www.censurebush.org.


Rep. John Conyers (D - MI), second longest serving member of the House of Representatives and the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. In the 1970s he played a prominent role in the recent impeachment process of Richard Nixon.

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Old 12-21-2005, 06:02 PM
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I say go for it. But Republicans hold majorities in both houses. How will it ever get through?
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:53 PM
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I say go for it. But Republicans hold majorities in both houses. How will it ever get through?
Well, it won't, and I'm not sure we want it to because then we'll just have ugly Dick Cheney as pres, which is what we have anyway.

But...if laws were broken, then an impeachment process is necessary. It will also allow us to see which Dems actually have balls (which right now appear to be Conyers and Boxer), and which don't.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:25 PM
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Well, it won't, and I'm not sure we want it to because then we'll just have ugly Dick Cheney as pres, which is what we have anyway.

But...if laws were broken, then an impeachment process is necessary. It will also allow us to see which Dems actually have balls (which right now appear to be Conyers and Boxer), and which don't.
Actually, if Fitzy is on target, Cheney may not be around for much longer either!
and with the systematic toppling of all the high ranking GOP, we may have a true crisis on our hands
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Gotta love Barbara Boxer I'm proud she is my Senator! I love Nancy Pelosi too .One of the few Democrats in congress to vote against the Iraq insanity from the start.As for Smirky and Dick I think Impeachment is not enough .They should be jailed.
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Gotta love Barbara Boxer I'm proud she is my Senator! I love Nancy Pelosi too .One of the few Democrats in congress to vote against the Iraq insanity from the start.As for Smirky and Dick I think Impeachment is not enough .They should be jailed.
they should be stripped of all their money/resources and forced to live on welfare and receive medicare. THAT would serve them right.
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Well, it won't, and I'm not sure we want it to because then we'll just have ugly Dick Cheney as pres, which is what we have anyway.
Well, Cheney may have to step down as VP if the CIA leak sticks. Then Denny Hastert will become VP. Then the Dems will take back Congress in 2006, and will begin impeachment ASAP. Bush will resign in disgrace. Hastert will become President, he'll pardon Bush, and then we can all sing:

It's beginning to smell a lot like Watergate.
Ev'rywhere you go;
Bush should get five-to-ten, but will be pardoned
By Hastert who as pres'dent blows.
It's beginning to smell a lot like Watergate
And here's what's in store
The prettiest sight to see, will be Pres'dent Hillary
And Republican power no more.
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