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Old 09-02-2005, 03:56 PM
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Thumbs up Michael Moore's letter to Bush

Friday, September 2nd, 2005
>
> Dear Mr. Bush:
>
> Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane
> Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be
> airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military
> choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a
> Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
>
> Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could
> really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do
> like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to
> begin with?
>
> Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of
> Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then
> but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there
> were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this
> storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody
> tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I
> know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to
> go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure
> showed her!
>
> I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying
> to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business
> peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the
> hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in
> the dike?
>
> And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how
> you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New
> Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them
> that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there
> weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you
> had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING
> DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
>
> On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I
> was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the
> clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look
> of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn
> and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been
> there done that.
>
> There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try
> to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out.
> Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this
> would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting
> hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them
> and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing
> unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having
> one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
>
> No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30
> percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had
> no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean,
> it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving
> white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh!
> Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
>
> You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army
> helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans
> and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
>
> Yours,
>
> Michael Moore
> MMFlint@...
> www.MichaelMoore.com
>
> P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch.
> She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now
> driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way (
> http://bringthemhomenowtour.org/ ). Maybe you can catch up with them
> before they get to DC on September 21st.
>
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia
Friday, September 2nd, 2005
>
> Dear Mr. Bush:
>
> Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane
> Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be
> airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military
> choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a
> Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
>
> Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could
> really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do
> like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to
> begin with?
>
> Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of
> Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then
> but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there
> were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this
> storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody
> tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I
> know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to
> go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure
> showed her!
>
> I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying
> to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business
> peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the
> hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in
> the dike?
>
> And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how
> you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New
> Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them
> that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there
> weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you
> had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING
> DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
>
> On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I
> was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the
> clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look
> of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn
> and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been
> there done that.
>
> There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try
> to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out.
> Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this
> would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting
> hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them
> and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing
> unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having
> one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
>
> No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30
> percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had
> no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean,
> it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving
> white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh!
> Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
>
> You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army
> helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans
> and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
>
> Yours,
>
> Michael Moore
> MMFlint@...
> www.MichaelMoore.com
>
> P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch.
> She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now
> driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way (
> http://bringthemhomenowtour.org/ ). Maybe you can catch up with them
> before they get to DC on September 21st.
>
You know, I find him to be just as annoying as some far right wingers. WHere are the middle of the road folks anymore?
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:02 PM
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WHere are the middle of the road folks anymore?
You mean the Democrats? Not to worry, they're still out there f*cking up this country alongside the Republicans.
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:04 PM
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You mean the Democrats? Not to worry, they're still out there f*cking up this country alongside the Republicans.
That's very funny. very good point
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:05 PM
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You know, I find him to be just as annoying as some far right wingers. WHere are the middle of the road folks anymore?
me too

I agree with his general message/intent, but, to me, the very serious content of his message is lessened by his rhetoric and antics. But, people like him and they get him noticed I will also say this, his research, unlike the far right wingers, is usually spot on.
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me too

I agree with his general message/intent, but, to me, the very serious content of his message is lessened by his rhetoric and antics. But, people like him and they get him noticed I will also say this, his research, unlike the far right wingers, is usually spot on.
Very well said. I concur.
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:18 PM
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This man is so rediculous it is not even funny. Ok maybe a little.

After being reminded over and over again that there are crazies like him out there on the political war field...I just don't feel bad about liking Ann Coulter.
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me too

I agree with his general message/intent, but, to me, the very serious content of his message is lessened by his rhetoric and antics. But, people like him and they get him noticed I will also say this, his research, unlike the far right wingers, is usually spot on.
Biting satire always makes a point.
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:19 PM
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This man is so rediculous it is not even funny. Ok maybe a little.
I thought you were an Ann The Man fan?
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I thought you were an Ann The Man fan?
haha...

I do happen to like the one you call "Ann The Man"...yes.
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This man is so rediculous it is not even funny. Ok maybe a little.

After being reminded over and over again that there are crazies like him out there on the political war field...I just don't feel bad about liking Ann Coulter.

Unlike Moore, Coulter does not tell the truth. That is a huge difference.

I mean take someone like Pat Buchannan. I am no fan of his, but he at least presents an argument that is thought out and well reasoned. Coulter just attacks with no facts to support her. Again, when O'Reilly laughed at her saying things were just going great in Iraq, it was spot on. I think she thinks if she says it enough it is true, which is assinine.
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Biting satire always makes a point.

It does, but Moore's and Coulter's IMO focus more on them than the point. That is why I think the points get lost. It is almost like they want their names above the title like a movie star. When that happens, you tend to notice them instead of their point.

A good example of biting satire to me would be Maureen O'Dowd.
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Unlike Moore, Coulter does not tell the truth. That is a huge difference.

I mean take someone like Pat Buchannan. I am no fan of his, but he at least presents an argument that is thought out and well reasoned. Coulter just attacks with no facts to support her. Again, when O'Reilly laughed at her saying things were just going great in Iraq, it was spot on. I think she thinks if she says it enough it is true, which is assinine.
Unlike Moore, Coulter approaches things with humor...which a lot of people don't seem to understand. I have checked lots of her sources before and find most of her opinions to be spot on. But that's just me.

anyways...back to the subject at hand...

Mr. Moore.
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Unlike Moore, Coulter approaches things with humor...
Unlike Moore? I doubt you've ever read one of his books or watched one of his docs if you have that to say.

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I have checked lots of her sources before and find most of her opinions to be spot on. But that's just me.
Bull****. You must not have done a very good job checking her sources, the dolt of a woman doesn't even know the difference between footnote or an endnote. When you first joined, I went through one of her books and systematically showed you how she distorts things and lies outright to help maintain her lousy points. Both you and Miss Coultergeist have no regard for the facts.
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Originally Posted by Livia
Friday, September 2nd, 2005
>
> Dear Mr. Bush:
>
> Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane
> Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be
> airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military
> choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a
> Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
>
> Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could
> really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do
> like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to
> begin with?
>
> Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of
> Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then
> but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there
> were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this
> storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody
> tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I
> know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to
> go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure
> showed her!
>
> I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying
> to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business
> peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the
> hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in
> the dike?
>
> And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how
> you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New
> Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them
> that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there
> weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you
> had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING
> DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
>
> On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I
> was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the
> clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look
> of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn
> and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been
> there done that.
>
> There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try
> to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out.
> Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this
> would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting
> hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them
> and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing
> unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having
> one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
>
> No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30
> percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had
> no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean,
> it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving
> white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh!
> Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
>
> You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army
> helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans
> and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
>
> Yours,
>
> Michael Moore
> MMFlint@...
> www.MichaelMoore.com
>
> P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch.
> She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now
> driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way (
> http://bringthemhomenowtour.org/ ). Maybe you can catch up with them
> before they get to DC on September 21st.
>
Thanks Livia. I hear Betty Bowers has some pretty good stuff on her home page too.
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