Beautiful Child, Setlist rant, blah, blah, blah...

diamondsnake · #1 07-03-2005, 03:10 AM

Beautiful Child- I'm sad that I will probably never hear this live again. I wish she would have done this one for her solo tour... it went over so well on the SYW tour. Why would she continue to play a stale song like Landslide when she clearly enjoyed singing Beautiful Child more? This song didn't just please the fans but it seemed clear to me that this was one of her favorites from that tour and she really, truely enjoyed doing that song. Too bad when she got rid of INTK she didn't bring this song into the set instead of Landslide...

And while we are on the topic, what about Sara? This is a big hit yet she only did it on the sheds tour and isn't doing it on the Gold Dust tour. I loved this song live and would much prefer this to Dreams or Landslide or Gold Dust Woman.

Just my random thoughts, sorry!

I guess what I am trying to say is that she has a big catalog yet only uses a fraction. I guess in a way, it is a good thing she only pulled those songs out for the SYW tour or else they would become tired set list staples too.... I don't even mind most of the songs on the setlist, there are just like three that I think need to go- Landslide, Gold Dust Woman, and Dreams could all stand to be replaced.

And the thing is, if she didn't do those songs live for a couple of tours, then they would be fresh again when she did decide to pull them out and they would be special once more. Like Sara- it used to be a setlist staple, then she quit doing it for a while and it was an extremely special song on the SYW tour. It was exciting because she never does that song.

LiquidBlue5000 · #2 07-03-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Beautiful Child- I'm sad that I will probably never hear this live again. I wish she would have done this one for her solo tour... it went over so well on the SYW tour. Why would she continue to play a stale song like Landslide when she clearly enjoyed singing Beautiful Child more? This song didn't just please the fans but it seemed clear to me that this was one of her favorites from that tour and she really, truely enjoyed doing that song. Too bad when she got rid of INTK she didn't bring this song into the set instead of Landslide...

And while we are on the topic, what about Sara? This is a big hit yet she only did it on the sheds tour and isn't doing it on the Gold Dust tour. I loved this song live and would much prefer this to Dreams or Landslide or Gold Dust Woman.

Just my random thoughts, sorry!

I guess what I am trying to say is that she has a big catalog yet only uses a fraction. I guess in a way, it is a good thing she only pulled those songs out for the SYW tour or else they would become tired set list staples too.... I don't even mind most of the songs on the setlist, there are just like three that I think need to go- Landslide, Gold Dust Woman, and Dreams could all stand to be replaced.

And the thing is, if she didn't do those songs live for a couple of tours, then they would be fresh again when she did decide to pull them out and they would be special once more. Like Sara- it used to be a setlist staple, then she quit doing it for a while and it was an extremely special song on the SYW tour. It was exciting because she never does that song.

Chris.. i understand your pain.. but 75% of her audiences go to see her because they want to hear "Landslide", "Dreams", Gold Dust Woman", and "Rhiannon"... she knows this, and that's why she always performs them... i'm sure she doesn't want to sing them anymore than you or i want to hear them... but unfortunately she has to please the masses

equeen102289 · #3 07-03-2005, 09:07 AM

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I guess what I am trying to say is that she has a big catalog yet only uses a fraction. I guess in a way, it is a good thing she only pulled those songs out for the SYW tour or else they would become tired set list staples too.... I don't even mind most of the songs on the setlist, there are just like three that I think need to go- Landslide, Gold Dust Woman, and Dreams could all stand to be replaced.

If everyone who went to her concerts, were as big of fans as we are, I'm sure their might be a possibility that she would do this...but the majority of people who are at the concert, are just casual fans...and they wanna hear the hits like Brian said.
Yes, those 3 songs you mentioned can get old...but even being as big of a fan as I am, and loving the rarely played/never played songs as much as I do, I would be disappointed if I went to a show of Stevie's, and she didnt' sing those songs. I don't care if I've heard Dreams a million times...it was her biggest hit-her most played song with Fleetwood Mac to this day-she has to sing it.
One more this to add- I can't call Gold Dust Woman old at the moment, cause that new ending she's been doing lately totally rocks! (ooh baby baby baby baby baby...you can't see me now...you should see me now...) Nobody sings "baby" like Stevie.

ShangriLaTroubl · #4 07-03-2005, 09:12 AM

You're absolutely right...if she only makes her setlist to please us she will not be making the money she's making, playing the large venues she's making...and sorry but that does matter to her..

If she filled her setlist this year with songs most of these people have never even heard of, people would be going "WHAT?" they want to hear the sings theyre familiar with...of course WE are familiar with them all, but most people at her shows are not

Chris

Dreammms · #5 07-03-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

If she filled her setlist this year with songs most of these people have never even heard of, people would be going "WHAT?" they want to hear the sings theyre familiar with...of course WE are familiar with them all, but most people at her shows are not

Chris

When Beautiful Child came on the people sitting next to me at the Jones Beach SYW show were saying "WTF is this song about?"

LiquidBlue5000 · #6 07-03-2005, 01:23 PM

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When Beautiful Child came on the people sitting next to me at the Jones Beach SYW show were saying "WTF is this song about?"

Additional proof that Jones Beach is the worst place to see a show on Earth..

darklinensuit · #7 07-03-2005, 01:37 PM

It's always bothered me that she skips entire albums in her solo setlist. At least do Rooms On Fire and Blue Denim if she wants only singles. I know she & most fans aren't crazy about those years, but there were some good songs worth doing off of two whole albums.

Everybody always points out that she chooses her songs with the casual fan in mind, but that doesn't explain why she'd do B&TB instead of If Anyone Falls and HAEWAFY instead of Talk To Me. I think she has honestly convinced herself that her devotees themselves (ourselves?

) actually prefer hearing Dreams and Landslide as long as she throws in HAEWAFY & B&TB, two lesser known and more cultish tunes. While I salute her dedication to the One Campaign, I am tired of HAEWAFY at this point. There are so many ballads she might choose.

If Stevie had her thumb on our pulse these days in terms of songs (she finally does in terms of wardrobe) she would not have missed the opportunity to do acoustic Gypsy with Lindsey on the SYW Tour. The overwhelming majority of people here raved about the AHI version while saying the standard version doesn't work live.

As for Beautiful Child, I liked it on SYW, but it van be left there. I'd rather she do something new, and like every other Ledgie, I'd have tons of suggestions.

- Jake

GardenStateGirlie · #8 07-03-2005, 01:42 PM

Much like Circle Dance seems to be for her father, perhaps Landslide is as well?

As much as I love Beautiful Child, to me, it's reserved for Fleetwood Mac. I can see how Dreams, Rhiannon, Landslide can go either way--either Fleetwood Mac or Stevie solo (much as I feel they take up too much space in her setlist). However, I can't imagine Beautiful Child without the rest of the band--simple as that.

skcin · #9 07-03-2005, 01:48 PM

I agree to a point: like Jake said, if she is going to only do "hits" then why are HAEWAFY & Enchanted in there?

And I think Rooms on Fire & Blue Denim should be in - most people would recognize Rooms on Fire, at least. Talk To Me & I Can't Wait - don't get me started!

I'd kill to have her do either of those again.

Now, I disagree that she should be doing Sara or BC. She does too many Mac tunes as it is. And I think it made it more special that BC was done on ONE TOUR ONLY. Bringing out Sara for the last few months of SYW was also a very special thing to me - kind of like the Stevie & Don shows: there were so few, so it makes it stand out more.

Landslide has become the signature song for Stevie with or without Mac, IMO. The Dance & then The Dixie Chicks pushed it into the mainstream public's consciousness & it's not going anywhere. Everyone in the crowd sings along to that tune & she loves it. Plus, no matter how we fanatic fans may want to hear something else - it's a damn good song & she still sings it well! Yes, people know Rhiannon (although I'll bet many think it's "Breanna" or something similar

) and Dreams probably known as "Thunder only happens when it's raining.") But you say "Landslide" & most people will know exactly which song you're talking about.

LiquidBlue5000 · #10 07-03-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

I agree to a point: like Jake said, if she is going to only do "hits" then why are HAEWAFY & Enchanted in there?

And I think Rooms on Fire & Blue Denim should be in - most people would recognize Rooms on Fire, at least. Talk To Me & I Can't Wait - don't get me started!

I'd kill to have her do either of those again.

i think she honestly just does not like those albums, thus does not want to perform anything off of them

ontheEdgeof17 · #11 07-03-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

i think she honestly just does not like those albums, thus does not want to perform anything off of them

This kills me. As much as I enjoy the cover songs, she should sing her own stuff. All those years she bitched about getting her songs out there and having her own songs on albums....now it seems that she doesn't appreciate them.

GardenStateGirlie · #12 07-03-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

i think she honestly just does not like those albums, thus does not want to perform anything off of them

Moreso than that, I think she has a great deal of apprehension about trying new things. She's used to her staples and if the fans are still coming out to see her, why should she change them? I think she's always had reservations about how much she can handle.

LiquidBlue5000 · #13 07-03-2005, 02:09 PM

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Moreso than that, I think she has a great deal of apprehension about trying new things. She's used to her staples and if the fans are still coming out to see her, why should she change them? I think she's always had reservations about how much she can handle.

yeah, but Circle Dance is not a staple.. neither is Rock And Roll, Sorcerer, Fall From Grace, How Still My Love, So You Wanna Be A Rcok N Roll Star, etc.. yet she performed all those songs this year alone...

personally i think Rooms On Fire would have be an awesome opening song in Vegas.. but instead she opens with Enchanted

darklinensuit · #14 07-03-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

I agree to a point: like Jake said, if she is going to only do "hits" then why are HAEWAFY & Enchanted in there?

And I think Rooms on Fire & Blue Denim should be in - most people would recognize Rooms on Fire, at least. Talk To Me & I Can't Wait - don't get me started!

I'd kill to have her do either of those again.

Now, I disagree that she should be doing Sara or BC. She does too many Mac tunes as it is. And I think it made it more special that BC was done on ONE TOUR ONLY. Bringing out Sara for the last few months of SYW was also a very special thing to me - kind of like the Stevie & Don shows: there were so few, so it makes it stand out more.

Landslide has become the signature song for Stevie with or without Mac, IMO. The Dance & then The Dixie Chicks pushed it into the mainstream public's consciousness & it's not going anywhere. Everyone in the crowd sings along to that tune & she loves it. Plus, no matter how we fanatic fans may want to hear something else - it's a damn good song & she still sings it well! Yes, people know Rhiannon (although I'll bet many think it's "Breanna" or something similar

) and Dreams probably known as "Thunder only happens when it's raining.") But you say "Landslide" & most people will know exactly which song you're talking about.

And BTW, I know somebody who thought the chorus to Rhiannon goes "Vienna....Vienna...Vieeeeennnna..."

- Jake

diamondsnake · #15 07-03-2005, 03:31 PM

Okay let me clarify my 5 in the morning ramblings!

I don't really hate any of these songs and I do enjoy them still. I just think she could spice things up a little more. And when I really look at the setlist there are only like 3 songs I would like replaced, so really that is not that much. And I still really enjoy those songs, I just have heard them a billion times.