Would TISL have done better if...

dudden22 · #1 05-17-2005, 11:14 PM

I am new here but I have reading over posts. Do you think Trouble in Shangri La would have been a killer album if Stevie" Voice had been on par with Bella Donna. I loved the lyrics to Candlebright but the vocals killed it. I do have to say that "that made me stronger" and "love changes" should have never made the album in the first place.

CreepingDeath · #2 05-17-2005, 11:16 PM

Space Needle & Touched By An Angel made the cut over TMMS and TFFT.

dissention · #3 05-17-2005, 11:19 PM

Her voice is cold and metallic on that album. That's mainly what I don't dig about it. I also think a much stronger second half would have sold it better. As soon as it gets to Too Far From Texas, everything is spotty.

ontheEdgeof17 · #4 05-17-2005, 11:22 PM

It shouldn't have been released on the same day as Destiny's Child. It could have opened closer to the top spot.

And Diss is right...it is too spotty on the second half for 'casual' fans to like it to spread the word.

dudden22 · #5 05-17-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Her voice is cold and metallic on that album. That's mainly what I don't dig about it. I also think a much stronger second half would have sold it better. As soon as it gets to Too Far From Texas, everything is spotty.

I completely agree. I hate to say it but the best song on that album was written in the seventies, POTU, but the title track would have been killer with better vocals.

Johnny Stew · #6 05-17-2005, 11:23 PM

I think 'TISL' is a killer album, exactly the way it is.

And dissy needs new speakers (or new ears

)... her voice doesn't sound cold and metallic.
Definitely sounds processed in parts of "Planets," though, but I do believe that was on purpose.

strandinthewind · #7 05-17-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Her voice is cold and metallic on that album. That's mainly what I don't dig about it. I also think a much stronger second half would have sold it better. As soon as it gets to Too Far From Texas, everything is spotty.

Interestingly, it was not so on the demos -at all. Plus, I guess she has her reasons for doing things, but Space Needle had SUCH potential and we have never seen it two or three records later

But, maybe on the next record.

Note - I like TISL, esp. the titular track. But, it is not my fav. by any means and I blame that on the production quality, which was not to my liking.

dissention · #8 05-17-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dudden22

I completely agree. I hate to say it but the best song on that album was written in the seventies, POTU, but the title track would have been killer with better vocals.

I adore the title track, even the computerization at the end is a bit overkill.

Some of the songs are among her most overproduced and are devoid of any emotion that I can feel (namely Love Is, etc.). Others like It's Only Love are sparse and beautiful. It's a mixed bag. However, I simply can't believe that casual fans would pick up the album, listen to songs like That Made Me Stronger and Too Far From Texas, and then recommend it to others.

Johnny Stew · #9 05-17-2005, 11:27 PM

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it is too spotty on the second half for 'casual' fans to like it to spread the word.

Typically, I have to disagree... the second half is the strongest, IMO.
"It's Only Love," "Love Changes," "I Miss You," "Bombay Sapphires," "Fall From Grace" and "Love Is," make up one of my favorite sections of any of Stevie's albums.

GardenStateGirlie · #10 05-17-2005, 11:28 PM

TISL is probably my favorite Stevie album. I think it is her best work since her early stuff. Her voice is spot on and you can really feel the conviction in her voice as she's singing. I will always love listening to that album. Considering she hadn't had a solo album out for several years, TISL was quite the comeback for Miss Nicks and I think it did fare quite well.

ontheEdgeof17 · #11 05-17-2005, 11:29 PM

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Typically, I have to disagree... the second half is the strongest, IMO.
"It's Only Love," "Love Changes," "I Miss You," "Bombay Sapphires," "Fall From Grace" and "Love Is," make up one of my favorite sections of any of Stevie's albums.

I love the songs....just not together.

Slow song
Slow/Medium tempo song
Slow song
Slow song
Rock Out
Slow Song

It just doesn't work. It drags more than RuPaul.

dudden22 · #12 05-17-2005, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I adore the title track, even the computerization at the end is a bit overkill.

Some of the songs are among her most overproduced and are devoid of any emotion that I can feel (namely Love Is, etc.). Others like It's Only Love are sparse and beautiful. It's a mixed bag. However, I simply can't believe that casual fans would pick up the album, listen to songs like That Made Me Stronger and Too Far From Texas, and then recommend it to others.

As much as I love Stevie, I just know she can do better vocally! eg: the dance, BATB vegas

Why doesn't she put that energy into her studio recordings recently.

dissention · #13 05-17-2005, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dudden22

As much as I love Stevie, I just know she can do better vocally! eg: the dance, BATB vegas

Why doesn't she put that energy into her studio recordings recently.

Good question. Listening to Running Through the Garden and Everybody Finds Out, you can tell someone lit a fire under her ass during the recording. Then listen to the appallingly lethargic Thrown Down, Say You Will, and Destiny Rules. It's like night and day. I think she gets stuck in a rut with her voice quite often.

dudden22 · #14 05-17-2005, 11:43 PM

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Good question. Listening to Running Through the Garden and Everybody Finds Out, you can tell someone lit a fire under her ass during the recording. Then listen to the appallingly lethargic Thrown Down, Say You Will, and Destiny Rules. It's like night and day. I think she gets stuck in a rut with her voice quite often.

I have to disagree, I loved thrown down, she went for the high notes, I loved destiny rules, except the repeating of the same verse on the same album

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