How Bloody Ungratefull!!!!

[sable]

I think it is so very rude of everybody to bash the set list for the vegas shows! i think you should all count yourselves lucky that you got the opportunity to see her, no one forced you to pay all that money. Just think how gutted you would feel if she announced she was no longer gonna tour beacause all the fans were bitching her songs!!!!! i can see how you would be disapointed, but give her a break.

~~~~sable~~~~

[Hawkeye]

actually the ones complaining aren't the ones paying to see her, its us here on our asses who couldn't make the trek to see her who are complaining.

[sable]

oh i do aplogise. Still think it's rude tho.

[jkmaletic]

I agree. People here are really unreal. I want to Stevie to sing WHATEVER SHE wants to sing and feels comfortable with. Has anyone ever seen tape of her performance at the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame with Sheryl Crow when she sang FFG? She was SO frickin' nervous she sounded terrible. I felt so bad for her. That's the last thing I want to see when I go to a show.

Sure I'd love to see her do different stuff, but only if she wants to do it. She planned to do more different songs, but for whatever reason, she changed her mind. People are entitled to do that. I respect Stevie's decisions and am VERY much looking forward to my shows on friday and saturday.

~Jamie

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by sable

Just think how gutted you would feel if she announced she was no longer gonna tour beacause all the fans were bitching her songs!!!!!

If wishes came true!

If only artists (using the term loosely) would take their fans into consideration. Most fans DON'T want to hear the same songs over & over, tour after tour. If she likes doing, oh, say, the "Outside The Rain/Dreams" medley, fine, play it during sound check. I, for one, am painfully sick of hearing it tour after tour. Its tired, its worn, its time for the dustbin.

What ever happened to the days when "artists" took chances? Oh yeah, Neil Young is still around.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

actually the ones complaining aren't the ones paying to see her, its us here on our asses who couldn't make the trek to see her who are complaining.

It's just a defense mechanism, a way to justify why you didn't go. If everyone was there, we'd still grumble over the songs, BUT didn't she sound terrifiec, didn't she look great, did you see her twirl, she looked at me, she did my favorite song, etc, etc, etc.

[jkmaletic]

Go see Neil Young then.

Geez.
I hope to got Stevie doesn't know anything about this website.

~Jamie

[shebop]

I have been to every FM/Stevie tour since 1977 - I am leaving for Las Vegas in a few hours. Am I disheartened about the setlist? YES! Will I enjoy the show? OF COURSE!
I am also a huge Elton John fan who has chosen not to see his Las Vegas show because I know it caters to the casual fan - Vegas style.
Stevie made the error of doing interviews regarding these shows that led everyone to expect something different. Clearly, that's not the case.
Period.

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

I agree. People here are really unreal. I want to Stevie to sing WHATEVER SHE wants to sing and feels comfortable with. Has anyone ever seen tape of her performance at the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame with Sheryl Crow when she sang FFG? She was SO frickin' nervous she sounded terrible. I felt so bad for her. That's the last thing I want to see when I go to a show.

Sure I'd love to see her do different stuff, but only if she wants to do it. She planned to do more different songs, but for whatever reason, she changed her mind. People are entitled to do that. I respect Stevie's decisions and am VERY much looking forward to my shows on friday and saturday.

~Jamie

You aren't talking about the time she did Fall From Grace at the Blockbuster Awards are you? You can't be because that performance was one of the best I have ever seen her do! She SHREDDED that song! Plus it was the first time she ever played it live. I remember I was watching thinking that she would just do Gold Dust Woman or something, and then when it started and she was belting it out, I just stood there with my mouth open. I could kick myself too because I let someone borrow that tape and I never got it back!

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by chiliD

If only artists (using the term loosely) would take their fans into consideration. Most fans DON'T want to hear the same songs over & over, tour after tour.

And this is the point: Stevie has alot of hits, but the deal is that she doesn't have to do them at EVERY SHOW. She has enough solo material that she can draw a line in the sand and do FM songs with FM and Stevie songs in her own solo shows. For a "retrospective, Vegas-style" show, yeah, then pull some more FM in, it's understandable. Look at all the gems others have suggested. Look at what she talked about, and then backed away from. With just a little tweeking, it could be phenomenal!!!

We want our girl to realize her potential and step out of her comfort zone just a little, teeny, tiny bit more...

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

You aren't talking about the time she did Fall From Grace at the Blockbuster Awards are you? You can't be because that performance was one of the best I have ever seen her do! She SHREDDED that song! Plus it was the first time she ever played it live. I remember I was watching thinking that she would just do Gold Dust Woman or something, and then when it started and she was belting it out, I just stood there with my mouth open. I could kick myself too because I let someone borrow that tape and I never got it back!

I have to agree with you there. I thought FFG at the Blockbuster Awards was fantastic!

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

We want our girl to realize her potential and step out of her comfort zone just a little, teeny, tiny bit more...

I wonder how much say she does have.... do you think management put the pressure on her to stick the the usual stuff? Maybe this was the best compromise with at least a few different ones

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

It's just a defense mechanism, a way to justify why you didn't go.

Just because people weren't there last night doesn't mean they're not going to be there later in the week.
If you paid big money for air, hotel and tickets and found out it's the same old same old after she has promoted it as unlike anything she has ever done before, wouldn't you be bummed?

[Cour]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

I agree. People here are really unreal. I want to Stevie to sing WHATEVER SHE wants to sing and feels comfortable with. Has anyone ever seen tape of her performance at the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame with Sheryl Crow when she sang FFG? She was SO frickin' nervous she sounded terrible. I felt so bad for her. That's the last thing I want to see when I go to a show.

Sure I'd love to see her do different stuff, but only if she wants to do it. She planned to do more different songs, but for whatever reason, she changed her mind. People are entitled to do that. I respect Stevie's decisions and am VERY much looking forward to my shows on friday and saturday.

~Jamie

I was all ready to respond to Sable, but this is so much better...


Since the rules here forbid copying entire posts from other message boards I'll just sum it up by saying,...

It seems the people on Mick's site were embarrassed about coming to the Ledge last night and going back and posting on Mick's site about the set list posted on the Ledge. They seemed embarrassed when someone mentioned the Ledge and they tried to distance themselves from it like it was a bad disease. I think there's an unwritten rule there about not referring to the Ledge and this site . Of course, it's fine that Song_bird from Mick's site comes to the Ledge regularly and takes all the news from this site and posts it over there without ever giving this site credit. The fans over at Mick's board are nothing if not consistent.


After posting here for the last few weeks and making it appear you were joining in the Ledge board, Jamie, you went back over to Mick's site this morning and tried to make it appear you were just reading the board instead of actively participating. If that weren't bad enough, you then went on to trash this site and many of it's members by saying "there are lots of pissed-off, angry, jealous people there, but oh well"


Thanks a lot, Jamie. We feel so loved. We're so glad you decided to start posting here so you could run back and tell your friends on Mick's site about how terrible some fans are here, all the while you're posting here and joining is like one of the group.

We're terribly sorry we're too unreal for you. Why visit and try to fit in someplace all the while you're going back to another site and trashing this site and the people who post here? How long do you think that's going to work?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by chiliD

What ever happened to the days when "artists" took chances? Oh yeah, Neil Young is still around.

Neil Young just goes CRAZY with the set list changes. I don't think he does a same song more tehn 3-4 times a tour. And rarely is it ever filled with all the hits (Heart of Stone, Hey Hey My My, Cowgirl in the Sand, Soutehrn Man, Old man, Cineman Girl...) And he FILLS the set many times with songs that haven't even been released) I almost think he takes it TOO far. I wish Stevie and the mac would take elements of what Neil Young does.