Best and or favorite president

Hawkeye · #1 01-04-2005, 12:25 AM

who do you feel was the best president the United States ever had. Or maybe they're just your favorite.

1. Franklin Deleno Roosevelt- by far IMO the very best and mos succesful president EVER. I mena he got us out of the freaking and depression and won us WWII throwing this country into its prosperity it's enjoyed ever since. It makes me mad that he died months before the war officially ended giving Truman the credit of being the president at the end of the war. No other president comes close.

RUNNERS UP

2. Bill Clinton- I'm not gonna lie, a big part of this is his fandom of Fleetwood Mac, but also I generally like him, and he did give us a great decade. I really wish he could've ran again this year. But just think he may return to the white house as first lady

3. Abraham Lincoln- He preserved the Union when the country was breaking in half, the civil war wasn;t an instant sucess, and I have a big problem with AMericans killing other Americans, but in the long run that war was worth it.

4. George Washington- Not for being the first president, but for his great advice as he left office. Don't get involved in foreighn affairs. We haven't followed his advice at all but Oh Well.

5. Thomas Jefferson- Doubled our size and got us moving towrds the pacific.

6. George W. Bush- Just kidding, but I don't hate him as much as others.

dissention · #2 01-04-2005, 12:29 AM

Roosevelt, Carter, and Ford for different reasons.

strandinthewind · #3 01-04-2005, 12:29 AM

FDR - he had the right ideas and, sadly, the welfare state he imagined has been bastardized, misused, and blown WAY out of scope and proportion.

others

George Washington - he said beware of political parties - need I say more

Ronald Regean - bad politics, but I liked him as a person

Clinton - liar and schemer but other than that

did a good job

Carter - completely ineffective - but a good heart in the right place

sunmaiden · #4 01-04-2005, 12:30 AM

FDR definitely. I saw that W had managed to come up with the notion that the War On Iraq mirrors WWII...that pees me off....are we supposed to try and compare W to FDR- Idon't think so!

estranged4life · #5 01-04-2005, 12:31 AM

I like all the presidents on the $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100 bills

Didnt care for the president on the "$3" though ("Slick Willy" Clinton)

Seriously, I actually don't have a fave, But Benjamin Franklin should've been a President...

dissention · #6 01-04-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Clinton - liar and schemer but other than that

did a good job

Lately, the more I think of Clinton, the more I can't stand him.

sunmaiden · #7 01-04-2005, 12:32 AM

So far FDR takes the cake!

Although I must say Lincoln did that whole abolition thing...but how does that stand to the supreme poweress of W?

amber · #8 01-04-2005, 12:35 AM

I like Carter best. And Roosevelt, although he was secretly evil in some ways. mainly with WW2, the atomic bomb, jews, and all that.

strandinthewind · #9 01-04-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Lately, the more I think of Clinton, the more I can't stand him.

Perhaps more so than Rove, Clinton was a BRILLIANT politician

Sadly, he realized to stay alive meant to turn his back on his base, which he did. Also, I know this is a huge issue to many, but despite the vast right wing conspiracy, which certainly existed and still exists

- he should not have sent his cabinet and others out to knowingly (he knew) lie about his affair. I have huge issues with the wasting of tax dollars for that, that money could have fed the poor. Granted, it was a witch hunt, but two wrongs have never made a right

But, Clinton did some good things - so, he is on my list

amber · #10 01-04-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Lately, the more I think of Clinton, the more I can't stand him.

Clinton did hella nasty **** that my super lefty TUSK guy at work has told me about...

It's too bad, cause i kinda like the guy. But, this guy is really left, and really knowledgeable about secret politics, so...

he won't even watch pbs, cause of some corporate owned reason.

Hawkeye · #11 01-04-2005, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sunmaiden

So far FDR takes the cake!

Although I must say Lincoln did that whole abolition thing...but how does that stand to the supreme poweress of W?

But Lincoln never ever set out to abolish slavery. In fact at the beginning of the war he was a racist. As the war grew on, he changed a little, but he never cared one bit about blacks. The Emancapation Proclation in 1863 was purely a war strategy.

sunmaiden · #12 01-04-2005, 12:38 AM

I thought they were all secretly evil...or is THAT a lie?
BTW Amber, you stole my cat (the tuxedo cat)
What's wrong with you? Stealing everybody's kitties!

dissention · #13 01-04-2005, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Perhaps more so than Rove, Clinton was a BRILLIANT politician

Sadly, he realized to stay alive meant to turn his back on his base, which he did. Also, I know this is a huge issue to many, but despite the vast right wing conspiracy, which certainly existed and still exists

- he should not have sent his cabinet and others out to knowingly (he knew) lie about his affair. I have huge issues with the wasting of tax dollars for that, that money could have fed the poor. Granted, it was a witch hunt, but two wrongs have never made a right

But, Clinton did some good things - so, he is on my list

My beef is only with the fact that he practically turned into a right-winger. He sold out. And he continues to do so. I've no use for him. Yet every liberal throws common sense out the window and worships the ground he walks on. It makes me vomit. Hillary is the true liberal, not that she'd let the public know it.

strandinthewind · #14 01-04-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

My beef is only with the fact that he practically turned into a right-winger. He sold out. And he continues to do so. I've no use for him. Yet every liberal throws common sense out the window and worships the ground he walks on. It makes me vomit. Hillary is the true liberal, not that she'd let the public know it.

I would not call Clinton a right winger, but your def. of right wing is anyone who says they are against abortion, but are pro choice

amber · #15 01-04-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

My beef is only with the fact that he practically turned into a right-winger. He sold out. And he continues to do so. I've no use for him. Yet every liberal throws common sense out the window and worships the ground he walks on. It makes me vomit. Hillary is the true liberal, not that she'd let the public know it.

You should have more beefs with him than that, my friend.