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Old 11-12-2004, 05:17 PM
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scott peterson was found guilty of 1st degree murder in the death of his wife laci & 2nd degree murder in the death of baby conner~ i have more to say on this subject but need 2 go back & watch more on the coverage tho i for 1 would like to say:

may you finally rest in peace laci & baby conner ~
may god bless you both!!! ~

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Old 11-12-2004, 05:40 PM
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Finally Yes. I though at one point it was going to be a hung jury.
Justice finally served.
I only Wish Canada wasn't so lax with thier criminals. You can get away with murder in this country.
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Old 11-12-2004, 07:54 PM
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Finally Yes. I though at one point it was going to be a hung jury.
Justice finally served.
I only Wish Canada wasn't so lax with thier criminals. You can get away with murder in this country.
You can here, too. Anyone remember OJ Simpson?
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:32 PM
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Old 11-13-2004, 12:25 AM
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Glory Hallelujah!!! A man was convicted on a completely circumstantial case!!!

Y'all better hope that your children aren't in this same position.

The dude killed his wife, but the prosecution couldn't prove it with evidence. So, we all suffer- cuz juries will continue to not follow the rule of law and convict people on the basis of subjective shade instead of proven evidence.

The prosecution did NOT make it's argument. Anyone who believes so probably voted for Dubya.
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Old 11-13-2004, 01:05 AM
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Glory Hallelujah!!! A man was convicted on a completely circumstantial case!!!

Y'all better hope that your children aren't in this same position.

The dude killed his wife, but the prosecution couldn't prove it with evidence. So, we all suffer- cuz juries will continue to not follow the rule of law and convict people on the basis of subjective shade instead of proven evidence.

The prosecution did NOT make it's argument. Anyone who believes so probably voted for Dubya.
Preach it! We don't even know how the woman died but Hallelujah! It's a miracle! The jury got too emotionally involved and convicted someone on no evidence. I also predict another miracle a comin' in that they will go ahead and finish the job..by giving him the death penalty.
The reaction outside the court and to Peterson's mother as she left the courtroom was disgusting. People cheering?
This case won't stand on appeal.
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Old 11-13-2004, 01:30 AM
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The prosecution did NOT make it's argument. Anyone who believes so probably voted for Dubya.

Enough already. This Dubya thing is getting a little old. By the way I'm not a big supporter of Bush.
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Old 11-13-2004, 08:59 AM
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There was quite alot of circumstantial evidence, which can be better at times, than eyewitness or so called "direct" evidence. None of us were in the courtroom, so do we really know all that was presented? I agree, there was no smoking gun but to say the jury convicted only on their emotions when they are still gagged and we have NO idea what they discussed while deliberating, we are being a bit unfair to those 12 citizens. They had a tough case but the jury SAW and HEARD the evidence and made a decision, we did not.
That is our system. Geragos made alot of promises to those jurors that he did not follow through on.(yes, I KNOW he didnt have too) I am sure they had to wonder why he told them in his opening that he would exonerate Scott, he would show them WHO killed Laci and Connor. That is what he said and he called no witnesses to back up those claims. The whole case was a mess from the get go and if there are errors it will be addressed on appeal. As far as the jury goes and the appeal, the first one dismissed during deliberations was dismissed for misconduct, there will be NO issues there for an appeal. The foreman is another story, as I am not sure exactly what happened with him yet. There are rumours as to why he was dismissed but until I can read something or hear something official, it is really no use to speculate on whether that will be an appealable issue.

My opinion on the case changed from day to day. I do not think the prosecution did a great job presenting. I do not think Geragos did a great job defending, especially with all the theories he floated and his lack of following through on his promises to the jury. There were two pieces of evidence that I could not get past.
One..the fact that Laci was found wearing the same pants she was wearing the night before when she got her hair cut. Scott told the police she was dressed in another outfit when he saw her leave with the dog. That says to me that she never got undressed from the night before. We woman know we do not get up and put on dirty clothes on Christmas Eve.
Two...the fact that the bodies were located 90 miles from where Laci was supposedly abducted, coincidentally right where Scott places himself that day. To say someone abducted Laci and drove her up to the Bay to frame Scott is very far fetched and hard to believe. Why would anyone do that? Her body condition pretty much indicates she was weighted down, why if this so called adductor wanted to frame Scott, would he weigh down her body?
The Amber Frey tapes were horrible and the one thing of value I got out of them was the fact he told Amber he had "lost his wife and this would be his first holiday without her" three weeks before Laci went missing. For all of these things just to be coincidence, Scott would have to be the most unlucky guy in the world.

I did think the jury would Hang or decide to go with Second degree as a compromise. I am shocked that twelve people all felt there was no reasonable doubt.
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:11 AM
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Glory Hallelujah!!! A man was convicted on a completely circumstantial case!!!

Y'all better hope that your children aren't in this same position.

The dude killed his wife, but the prosecution couldn't prove it with evidence. So, we all suffer- cuz juries will continue to not follow the rule of law and convict people on the basis of subjective shade instead of proven evidence.

The prosecution did NOT make it's argument. Anyone who believes so

probably voted for Dubya.
hate to pee in your wheaties but i didn't vote 4 bush & my comments on this trial have nothin' 2 do w/ who i voted 4!!!~ i did watch this case EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!~ the circumstantial evidence was overwhelming,
1.there was only 18 mins from the time scott supposedly left & the neighbor finding her dog, so in 18 mins, laci cleaned up her exstensive mess (scott said she had a huge mess out making gingerbread) & go 2 the park & b abducted~
2.nothing was missing, it was 41* that day, nothing was missing from the house, no shoes, no jacket, her purse, cell phone & her jewelry ( all her friends & family said that laci NEVER left the house w/ out her expensive jewelry on especialy her wedding ring) the jewelry was all found on the dresser~
3. scott said in october to his mistress & others that he had "lost " his wife & this would b the 1st holidays w/ out her ~
4. he admitted to being right where the bodies washed up~
5. all the lies he told 2 everyone about anything & everything, i wouldn't believe the bastard if his tongue came notorized!!!~
6. no 1 knew scott had bought this boat, not even his DADDY, scott & daddy were supossed to b so close no 1 could believe that scott wouldn't have told his DADDY about his big boat purchase~
7.tells 2 different stories about where he was the day of the dissappearance~
8.was found trying 2 get in2 mexico w/ all the things u would need while hididng out, oh yeah he also had a huge supply of viagra on him ~
9. his defense was: a satanic cult did it or a band of homeless people~

no 1 should have treated scott's mother they way that they did while she left the courtroom, i do not approve of that, scott is still her son & she loves him, but death penalty or not, she will still get 2 see him, cali isn't like texas & carry out the death penalty everyday, he will spend quite a few yrs on deathrow, & if he gets life she can visit him weekly~ laci's mom however doesn't get that, her only hope is goin' 2 a cemetary 2 c her daughter & grandson~

this is just MY opinion!!!~ & i am not bashing any1 on their opinion on this, i just felt you r comment was kinda rude~

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Old 11-13-2004, 10:06 AM
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I'm not really familiar with the American legal system, nor this case, but how can someone recieve the death penalty without any evidence linking them to the crime? From the little I've heard (and I'm still at a loss as to why it's such big news) it reminds me of Lindy 'a dingo took my baby' Chamberlain. Haven't people learnt by now not to get emotionally involved in cases?
In the American legal system, a man can go into a town hall, kill a mayor and another elected official, then be found not guilty because his lawyer argued that a binge on Twinkies and junk food made him commit the crime, Lux. Our legal system is a joke and has been for the past 30 years.

As I've said, the prosecution did a marvelous job with circumstantial evidence, but they didn't prove their case. Geragos did a horrific job and gave the conviction to the prosecution wrapped in a pretty blue bow.
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Say it sista. He did it, everyone knows he did it, and the bad guy is in jail. To say this compromises our whole legal system is just making a sweeping generalization based on one case. Based on the evidence below, what other conclusion is there? The right thing to do is to have the bad guy put away. Imagine this monster having gotten off?

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hate to pee in your wheaties but i didn't vote 4 bush & my comments on this trial have nothin' 2 do w/ who i voted 4!!!~ i did watch this case EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!~ the circumstantial evidence was overwhelming,
1.there was only 18 mins from the time scott supposedly left & the neighbor finding her dog, so in 18 mins, laci cleaned up her exstensive mess (scott said she had a huge mess out making gingerbread) & go 2 the park & b abducted~
2.nothing was missing, it was 41* that day, nothing was missing from the house, no shoes, no jacket, her purse, cell phone & her jewelry ( all her friends & family said that laci NEVER left the house w/ out her expensive jewelry on especialy her wedding ring) the jewelry was all found on the dresser~
3. scott said in october to his mistress & others that he had "lost " his wife & this would b the 1st holidays w/ out her ~
4. he admitted to being right where the bodies washed up~
5. all the lies he told 2 everyone about anything & everything, i wouldn't believe the bastard if his tongue came notorized!!!~
6. no 1 knew scott had bought this boat, not even his DADDY, scott & daddy were supossed to b so close no 1 could believe that scott wouldn't have told his DADDY about his big boat purchase~
7.tells 2 different stories about where he was the day of the dissappearance~
8.was found trying 2 get in2 mexico w/ all the things u would need while hididng out, oh yeah he also had a huge supply of viagra on him ~
9. his defense was: a satanic cult did it or a band of homeless people~

no 1 should have treated scott's mother they way that they did while she left the courtroom, i do not approve of that, scott is still her son & she loves him, but death penalty or not, she will still get 2 see him, cali isn't like texas & carry out the death penalty everyday, he will spend quite a few yrs on deathrow, & if he gets life she can visit him weekly~ laci's mom however doesn't get that, her only hope is goin' 2 a cemetary 2 c her daughter & grandson~

this is just MY opinion!!!~ & i am not bashing any1 on their opinion on this, i just felt you r comment was kinda rude~

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Enough already. This Dubya thing is getting a little old. By the way I'm not a big supporter of Bush.
The "Dubya thing" will never get old.

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hate to pee in your wheaties but i didn't vote 4 bush & my comments on this trial have nothin' 2 do w/ who i voted 4!!!
You didn't pee in my wheaties. If you notice, I said probably voted for Dubya.

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no 1 should have treated scott's mother they way that they did while she left the courtroom, i do not approve of that, scott is still her son & she loves him, but death penalty or not, she will still get 2 see him, cali isn't like texas & carry out the death penalty everyday, he will spend quite a few yrs on deathrow, & if he gets life she can visit him weekly~ laci's mom however doesn't get that, her only hope is goin' 2 a cemetary 2 c her daughter & grandson
All of your "circumstantial" reasons only point to odd behavior or strange things happening based on testimony. None of them have any direct link to an identifiable person killing her.

You're right- Scott Peterson's mother is much better off than Laci Peterson's mother. She's a lucky woman.

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this is just MY opinion!!!~ & i am not bashing any1 on their opinion on this, i just felt you r comment was kinda rude
Of course this is your opinion- my rude comment was my opinion, too. However, I don't think my comment is as rude as potentially sending someone to death without a shred of physical evidence just because he is a loathesome individual.

Last time I looked, one can't get the death penalty for being an asshole. If that were the case, I would have been dead long, long ago.

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Say it sista. He did it, everyone knows he did it, and the bad guy is in jail. To say this compromises our whole legal system is just making a sweeping generalization based on one case. Based on the evidence below, what other conclusion is there?
You're right. From now on, criminal cases will all be decided on the basis of whether or not "everyone knows he did it". This will save a lot of time and money and all the "bad guys" will be in jail (or dead) and we will all be safer for it. All of our judgements will be based on the idea that if we can't think up any other plausible conclusion the only conclusion is the one the prosecutor came up with- mainly because I can't think for myself and the prosecutors are usually always right.
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In the American legal system, a man can go into a town hall, kill a mayor and another elected official, then be found not guilty because his lawyer argued that a binge on Twinkies and junk food made him commit the crime, Lux.
If that Twinkie defense were true, I'd have murdered someone long ago....LOL
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If that Twinkie defense were true, I'd have murdered someone long ago....LOL
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The other big white elephant in the room here is how certain elements are going to spin the second degree murder conviction with respect to Roe V. Wade. What this jury also has done now is set a precedent by giving the unborn child "personhood." It's a slippery slope.
By the way, the justice system should work for everyone, not just people that you like.

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