Oh Daddy & Go Insane Live

[Lala]

I've been listening to some old bootlegs and thinking that the beginning of Oh Daddy live sounds a lot like Go Insane live.

Anyone else notice this?

[David]

Originally Posted by Lala

I've been listening to some old bootlegs and thinking that the beginning of Oh Daddy live sounds a lot like Go Insane live. Anyone else notice this?

The similarity is due to the harmonics & the specific technique Buckingham is using (it creates a sort of high chiming effect). Now, you'd need a guitarist to explain just how it's done -- & whether it's open-string, fretted (artificial or pinched) or otherwise.

However it's done, it creates a beautiful filigree effect.

[seteca]

The similarity is that both live versions include the use of natural harmonics combined with an echo effect at the beginning. You put your finger over the actual fret (7th and 12th in this case) so it's just touching the string and pluck it with your playing hand - you get a nice chiming effect. The intro to "Oh Daddy" is much more difficult to play - LB's very quickly jumping from note to note in time with the delay he's set for that song, whereas "Go Insane" is a simple 2 slow notes with a bit of slapback echo. For completeness, it may or may not interest you to know that the delay box he used for "Oh Daddy" was the Roland Space Echo (it has a signature warm flutter echo), whereas "Go Insane" was the digital, much less warm sounding Boss DD-3.

[mylittledemon]

Probably the guitar harmonics.

[jbrownsjr]

the progressions could probably be similiar somewhere in spots as well

(i have not heard "oh daddy" live in ages however

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by seteca

The similarity is that both live versions include the use of natural harmonics combined with an echo effect at the beginning. You put your finger over the actual fret (7th and 12th in this case) so it's just touching the string and pluck it with your playing hand - you get a nice chiming effect. The intro to "Oh Daddy" is much more difficult to play - LB's very quickly jumping from note to note in time with the delay he's set for that song, whereas "Go Insane" is a simple 2 slow notes with a bit of slapback echo. For completeness, it may or may not interest you to know that the delay box he used for "Oh Daddy" was the Roland Space Echo (it has a signature warm flutter echo), whereas "Go Insane" was the digital, much less warm sounding Boss DD-3.

holy frick yer sick.

[MiniLindsey]

Originally Posted by seteca

The similarity is that both live versions include the use of natural harmonics combined with an echo effect at the beginning. You put your finger over the actual fret (7th and 12th in this case) so it's just touching the string and pluck it with your playing hand - you get a nice chiming effect. The intro to "Oh Daddy" is much more difficult to play - LB's very quickly jumping from note to note in time with the delay he's set for that song, whereas "Go Insane" is a simple 2 slow notes with a bit of slapback echo. For completeness, it may or may not interest you to know that the delay box he used for "Oh Daddy" was the Roland Space Echo (it has a signature warm flutter echo), whereas "Go Insane" was the digital, much less warm sounding Boss DD-3.

You and I should get along perfectly, because we both love Lindsey's guitar playing. However, although I can play nearly anything the man himself can (though not as well), I know nothing about the technical stuff.

By the way, what tuning is he using for Oh Daddy? I usually play it in Drop D.

[seteca]

Originally Posted by MiniLindsey

You and I should get along perfectly, because we both love Lindsey's guitar playing. However, although I can play nearly anything the man himself can (though not as well), I know nothing about the technical stuff.

By the way, what tuning is he using for Oh Daddy? I usually play it in Drop D.

I vaguely recall from a picture we were discussing in the Rumours forum about a year ago that he played it on the Rumours tour using a double neck (12 string and standard). I'm pretty sure they were both in standard tuning.

On the Dance tour, he used the Model One, and although it does make sense to use Drop D, I'm pretty sure he was using standard (low E) tuning. The only reason I know this (and this is surely unhealthy!) is that if you listen to the recording of "Oh Daddy" from Irvine Meadows, at the very end of the song you hear him (probably accidentally) hit the low E string, and you do hear a low E - i.e. not a D - and it actually creates a pretty annoying moment of dischording at the end of an otherwise awesome song! I love the solo he plays in the middle of that version....it's very Shadows-esque: twangy tone and in-your-face slapback echo!

I play it with pretty simple chords...variations of Dm, C, F etc etc...