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Old 03-16-2004, 11:56 PM
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Can anyone clear up exactly what was going on in the segment of the documentary where Stevie and Lindsey were fighting about the mixing process?
I got that Lindsey was upset because Chris Lord-Alge was asking for more material than he should have. But what was the deal with Stevie making the phone call and so on?
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Old 03-17-2004, 06:34 AM
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I think LB had still not determined that this record was not going to be a double record and that Chris LA was going to mix it. I think they asked him to choose the standard 12 songs to send to Chris LA and those songs would be on the record - hence no double record. So, he was apprehensive.

Regarding the actual mixing of the songs, apparently, the band wanted one mixer or the mixers would not do just one song. So they had to choose. LB wanted Mark N. to mix it. LB stated he felt Chris LA was too busy and he feared the songs would not get the attention he thought they deserved. Conversely, SN had used Chris LA for over ten years and trusted him to find the sound she wanted, etc. After hearing Mark N.'s mixes of TD, Stevie felt it did not capture her song they way she wanted. She also did not like Chris LA's mix of EFO. In the end, I think LB mixed the record because SN said in a sep. interview not in the doc. that the rest of FM went to Hawaii while LB mixed the record and that only LB could mix it because LB knew the complexities of each song. I am unsure who if anyone helped LB mix the record.

Then, LB knew Chris LA was very busy and apparently they had two days or however long to mix "Monica" which is EFO. Apparently, the management people involved with FM and/or the Warner people wanted to give Chris LA more songs to mix and LB did not want to do that. Why he did not want to do that remains unclear from the doc. I think LB saw it as giving in to using Chris LA mixing the record as opposed to his choice Mark N. I think he thought he was being manipulated into this. Again, I think his exact reasons were unclear; he stated only that he was not ready to turn over songs to Chris LA. Maybe the contract they wanted LB to sign indicated that Chris LA would be the presumed mixer and it took the majority of the band to override that presumption

In the end though, I think both SN and LB tried each mixer out and chose what they as FM thought was best for those songs. I thought that process illustrated that LB and SN have come a very long way in the sense that they can have a rational undrug influenced discussion about the music without storming out for days, throwing recrimminations, etc., like they used to in the 70's and 80's.
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Old 03-17-2004, 11:34 AM
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It says in the SYW liner notes:

Mixed by Mark Needham at Cornerstone Recording and Conway Studios except "Destiny Rules" mixed by Chris Lord-Alge at Image Recording Studios

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"Monica" which is EFO.
Huh? The name of that song was Monica??? What does THAT mean?
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It says in the SYW liner notes:

Mixed by Mark Needham at Cornerstone Recording and Conway Studios except "Destiny Rules" mixed by Chris Lord-Alge at Image Recording Studios



Huh? The name of that song was Monica??? What does THAT mean?
Let's hope it's not about Monica & Hillary.

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Let's hope it's not about Monica & Hillary.

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Oh, c'mon. I've heard this same thing as well and I don't believe it for a minute. What, is she really going to come out and say what it's actually about? I don't think so. Why not make it sound like it's about something else? This is perhaps the ONLY song that has not been discussed in an interview and I think there's a reason for it and NOT because it was written about the Clinton/Clinton/Lewinsky situation.
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Yes, there's a clip of Stevie either talking to Lindsey or the camera, can't remember which, but she does mention that Chris was too busy to mix it, so she said go with Mark Needham.
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