Star Wars Episode III is awesome

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I was DYING watching that thing. It was hilarious, thanks.

Oh, good - me, too, I thought it was scrumtrulescent.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I also cried when Padme started sobbing after the Jedi massacre.

Me too, and when Anakin (now Vader) put the strangle-hold on Padme toward the end and shouted something to the effect of, "you've turned against me." That was intense .

Now for some critiques of Lucas's plotting:
I just saw the movie last night, and please forgive me for coming in late on this discussion, but one thing that didn't sit well with me was Anakin's rather uncomplicated, or shall I say, uncalculating move to the dark side. It starts out that Anakin needs the Emporer in order to save Padme from certain death, but after he kills Mace Windu, he immediately turns into Vader and starts killing younglings and doing all sorts of heinous sh*t. There was no build up, and little complication. If Anakin was going to be calculating about the whole thing, he should have struck a deal with the Emporer, kind of playing both sides against the middle, and then gradually become Vader instead of vowing immedate alligiance to the Emporer. Maybe this was done sloppily due to time constraints, but I could have used 30 more minutes of Anakin's psychology: frustration, confusion, anger, remorse, conflicting feelings, etc that slowly brings him to the dark side. I mean, lines like, "I'm so mad!" are not complicated enough for me in relaying Anakin's emotion yikes! Also, I don't think Anakin should have become Vader until the helmet/mask was put on. Again, not enough emotional build up from Lucas. And the "NOOOOOOOOOO!" from Vader toward the end had me rolling in the aisles.

Two more things: Isn't it ironic how Anakin wanted the Emporer's knowledge of immortality in order to save Padme but in the end tried to murder her? I suppose that is to lead us further to believe that Anakin was really only looking out for #1 the whole time. His tragic flaws of arrogance, greed, and power-hunger surface above his love for Padme. Also, why would Padme die of the unwillingness to live after giving birth to two children that need her? Just things to ponder.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Me too, and when Anakin (now Vader) put the strangle-hold on Padme toward the end and shouted something to the effect of, "you've turned against me." That was intense .

Now for some critiques of Lucas's plotting:
I just saw the movie last night, and please forgive me for coming in late on this discussion, but one thing that didn't sit well with me was Anakin's rather uncomplicated, or shall I say, uncalculating move to the dark side. It starts out that Anakin needs the Emporer in order to save Padme from certain death, but after he kills Mace Windu, he immediately turns into Vader and starts killing younglings and doing all sorts of heinous sh*t. There was no build up, and little complication. If Anakin was going to be calculating about the whole thing, he should have struck a deal with the Emporer, kind of playing both sides against the middle, and then gradually become Vader instead of vowing immedate alligiance to the Emporer. Maybe this was done sloppily due to time constraints, but I could have used 30 more minutes of Anakin's psychology: frustration, confusion, anger, remorse, conflicting feelings, etc that slowly brings him to the dark side. I mean, lines like, "I'm so mad!" are not complicated enough for me in relaying Anakin's emotion yikes! Also, I don't think Anakin should have become Vader until the helmet/mask was put on. Again, not enough emotional build up from Lucas. And the "NOOOOOOOOOO!" from Vader toward the end had me rolling in the aisles.

Two more things: Isn't it ironic how Anakin wanted the Emporer's knowledge of immortality in order to save Padme but in the end tried to murder her? I suppose that is to lead us further to believe that Anakin was really only looking out for #1 the whole time. His tragic flaws of arrogance, greed, and power-hunger surface above his love for Padme. Also, why would Padme die of the unwillingness to live after giving birth to two children that need her? Just things to ponder.

I thought the way he turned to the Dark Side was laughable, too. He kills Jackson, can't believe what he did, and then becomes Palpatine's henchman in all of three seconds. It was ridiculous. But this IS George Lucas, dear. I totally agree that it could have used a half hour more of development, especially since they barely developed Anakin in Episode II even. Just look at the "romance" between him and Padme. It was so forced and seemed so absurd from the beginning. But I still loved it for the fluff that it is.

[Moony]

Originally Posted by dissention

I thought the way he turned to the Dark Side was laughable, too. He kills Jackson, can't believe what he did, and then becomes Palpatine's henchman in all of three seconds. It was ridiculous. But this IS George Lucas, dear. I totally agree that it could have used a half hour more of development, especially since they barely developed Anakin in Episode II even. Just look at the "romance" between him and Padme. It was so forced and seemed so absurd from the beginning. But I still loved it for the fluff that it is.

I agree, but thank god he killed Windu when he did. I couldn't take any more of him. Horrendous.

Was anyone else yelling at Anakin when he was talking to Palpatine? "Don't listen to him! IDIOT!!!!!" I was getting so pissed off. Thankfully when I went there weren't too many people in the theatre.

Also, after Yoda fell during his battle with Palpatine....why didn't he get back up and finish him off? Instead of saying, "into exile I must go, failed I have" crap.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Moony

I agree, but thank god he killed Windu when he did. I couldn't take any more of him. Horrendous.

Jackson is whoreanus in the Star Wars movies. He deserves a Razzie for EVERY one.

Originally Posted by Moony

Was anyone else yelling at Anakin when he was talking to Palpatine? "Don't listen to him! IDIOT!!!!!" I was getting so pissed off. Thankfully when I went there weren't too many people in the theatre.

I was too busy rolling my eyes at how fast it all happened, actually.

Originally Posted by Moony

Also, after Yoda fell during his battle with Palpatine....why didn't he get back up and finish him off? Instead of saying, "into exile I must go, failed I have" crap.

Because it wouldn't have gelled with the old Star Wars flicks, silly.

[macfanken]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Me too, and when Anakin (now Vader) put the strangle-hold on Padme toward the end and shouted something to the effect of, "you've turned against me." That was intense .

Now for some critiques of Lucas's plotting:
I just saw the movie last night, and please forgive me for coming in late on this discussion, but one thing that didn't sit well with me was Anakin's rather uncomplicated, or shall I say, uncalculating move to the dark side. It starts out that Anakin needs the Emporer in order to save Padme from certain death, but after he kills Mace Windu, he immediately turns into Vader and starts killing younglings and doing all sorts of heinous sh*t. There was no build up, and little complication. If Anakin was going to be calculating about the whole thing, he should have struck a deal with the Emporer, kind of playing both sides against the middle, and then gradually become Vader instead of vowing immedate alligiance to the Emporer. Maybe this was done sloppily due to time constraints, but I could have used 30 more minutes of Anakin's psychology: frustration, confusion, anger, remorse, conflicting feelings, etc that slowly brings him to the dark side. I mean, lines like, "I'm so mad!" are not complicated enough for me in relaying Anakin's emotion yikes! Also, I don't think Anakin should have become Vader until the helmet/mask was put on. Again, not enough emotional build up from Lucas. And the "NOOOOOOOOOO!" from Vader toward the end had me rolling in the aisles.

Two more things: Isn't it ironic how Anakin wanted the Emporer's knowledge of immortality in order to save Padme but in the end tried to murder her? I suppose that is to lead us further to believe that Anakin was really only looking out for #1 the whole time. His tragic flaws of arrogance, greed, and power-hunger surface above his love for Padme. Also, why would Padme die of the unwillingness to live after giving birth to two children that need her? Just things to ponder.

I really enjoyed the movie but I thought the plot was kind of sloppy towards the end. You can tell that Lucas knew where the story had to go but wasn't sure how to get there. Or, more likely, didn't want to be bothered with the details. He could have spent more than just the last hour of the third movie focusing on Anakin's turn to the dark side, especially since the first two movies basically went nowhere!

I agree with you about Vader's "NOOOOO!", I wasn't rolling in the aisle but my eyes were definitely rolling! The scene where he gets up and starts walking like Frankenstein was just stupid!

[Moony]

Originally Posted by dissention

Because it wouldn't have gelled with the old Star Wars flicks, silly.

I know! But I'm just saying...it didn't make any sense. Yoda was just like, oh well, I fell, I failed, I go now. If Lucas was going to have him give up, he should've been injured badly or something. Oh well.

And Vader's "nooooooooooooooo"....that was the worst.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Moony

I know! But I'm just saying...it didn't make any sense. Yoda was just like, oh well, I fell, I failed, I go now. If Lucas was going to have him give up, he should've been injured badly or something. Oh well.

And Vader's "nooooooooooooooo"....that was the worst.

I love a good, cheesy, B movie "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!". Almost makes me want to see it....

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Moony

I know! But I'm just saying...it didn't make any sense. Yoda was just like, oh well, I fell, I failed, I go now. If Lucas was going to have him give up, he should've been injured badly or something. Oh well.

And Vader's "nooooooooooooooo"....that was the worst.

I was laughing at the fact that Palpatine was throwing chairs at Yoda.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

I love a good, cheesy, B movie "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!". Almost makes me want to see it....

You should, it's a fun time. I don't think anyone who went to see it was expecting Citizen Kane. Except for those sexually inexperienced Jedi knights that you posted the video of.

[Moony]

Originally Posted by dissention

I was laughing at the fact that Palpatine was throwing chairs at Yoda.

LOL...

On a totally different note, does Hayden not have the sexiest voice? I don't know...something about the rhythm of his speech was HOT.

maybe it's just me

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

You should, it's a fun time. I don't think anyone who went to see it was expecting Citizen Kane. Except for those sexually inexperienced Jedi knights that you posted the video of.

I will. DVD.
Although, I forgot Yoda talks like that. I saw a four second clip of that in a commercial or something, and it drove me mad!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Moony

LOL...

On a totally different note, does Hayden not have the sexiest voice? I don't know...something about the rhythm of his speech was HOT.

maybe it's just me

It's not just you. But anything could come out of those luscious lips and I'd swoon.

Originally Posted by amber

I will. DVD.
Although, I forgot Yoda talks like that. I saw a four second clip of that in a commercial or something, and it drove me mad!

I think it's cute. I was in Circuit City yesterday and they had this Yoda dolls that were a foot tall and when you pushed his hand, he said all kinds of different phrases and his mouth moved. I almost bought one.

[strandinthewind]

I cannot believe I am feeding the obsession, but he was in wither People or US this week.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by dissention

It's not just you. But anything could come out of those luscious lips and I'd swoon.



I think it's cute. I was in Circuit City yesterday and they had this Yoda dolls that were a foot tall and when you pushed his hand, he said all kinds of different phrases and his mouth moved. I almost bought one.

lololol i saw those also~ they were cute~ my hubby knows i love yoda & talks yosa 2 me, i can NEVER keep a straight face!!! ~
anyways i finally saw the movie last friday~ well, i loved it, i thought it the best of the 6~ i loved all of it & 2 finally have everything tied in2 1 another & know why annikan went bad...~ i saw "star wars" when i was 9, when it came out in theaters, the only 1 of all 6 i didn't c at the theaters was "return of the jedi", i saw it on video, the only thing good about that 1 was, leia & her gold bikini~ but i do love this final installment & was glad i went 2 c it!!!~