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Old 03-28-2006, 03:36 PM
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I've accidentally prayed for this once or twice, god forgive me! I don't know about it for real though, Cheney as president makes me shudder nearly to the point of incontinence.
I used to think that... But then I thought no.

Bush is just a fool and an idiot. You would only be "shooting the messenger". He gets replaced and the game carries on.

Bush is indeed the monkey. But you have many organ grinders behind him.
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:27 PM
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...Red state or blue, north or south, voters around the country found at least one thing they could agree on yesterday as proposals banning same-sex marriage were winning in all 11 states where the issue appeared on the ballot.

Tallies from Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, North Dakota and Utah showed constitutional amendments restricting marriage to a man and woman would pass by substantial margins. A similar measure in Oregon enjoyed a solid lead with nearly three-quarters of the votes counted.

Gary Bauer, director of the conservative group American Values, said the results on same-sex marriage proposals "tell us that the American people know exactly where they stand on this question, and it doesn't matter whether it's a Bush state or a Kerry state."
The thing is, this is not a scientific sampling of Americans. It is Americans in these 11 states. So you can't really conclude that the vast majority of Americans are against same sex marriage based on this limited data. What do you suppose would happen if you included MA, NY, and CA? That would skew the results the other way IMO. Or I certainly hope it would.

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I used to think that... But then I thought no.

Bush is just a fool and an idiot. You would only be "shooting the messenger". He gets replaced and the game carries on.

Bush is indeed the monkey. But you have many organ grinders behind him.
Is it wrong for me to wish them all dead together then? It is. Forgive me, please!

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I'll put you all in seperate rooms.. I'll have to sleep on the couch.
Eh hem, they're married, I am not! But you still have to sleep on the couch. Well, if you would be so gracious that is.
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:48 PM
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Is it wrong for me to wish them all dead together then?
No, not in the slightest.

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Eh hem, they're married, I am not! But you still have to sleep on the couch. Well, if you would be so gracious that is.
I'd be gracious of course. I'm a very well behaved chap you know.

You know, everytime I sleep on a couch somewhere I'm reminded of the scene in Notting Hill when Hugh is on the couch and Spike creeps downstairs and asks about Julia Roberts "Do you mind if I, err, slip her one?" What a classic scene in a great film.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:01 PM
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ya know....I got a lot of flak for saying "where's John Hinkley when you need him" but I still believe this WORLD would have been better off if Monkey Boy would have had an "accident" .....maybe HE should have gone hunting with Cheney
Just give him a bag of pretzels...he'll eventually choke on 'em.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:04 PM
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Just give him a bag of pretzels...he'll eventually choke on 'em.
Or make sure his advisors forget to take the cap off his bottled water and he will dry up before he figures out what to do...
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:46 PM
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Tallies from Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, North Dakota and Utah showed constitutional amendments restricting marriage to a man and woman would pass by substantial margins. A similar measure in Oregon enjoyed a solid lead with nearly three-quarters of the votes counted.
Oh-me-oh-my, I voted against the majority in the state (Of confusion) known as Oklahoma...I aligned myself (Along with my wife Deb) against the relig-a-tards and right wingers, I guess I should lose sleep because I'm a goin' to hell...Boo-frikkedy-hoo!!! What shall I ever do? Easy, Nothing...I shall forever remain the difficult asshole that God placed me upon this Earth to be.

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Oklahomans agreed to create a state lottery, leaving nine states that do not use this form of gambling to raise revenue. But gambling proposals struck out elsewhere. Californians appeared to reject proposals to allow more slot machines and casinos, Michigan voters tightened requirements to open casinos there, and Nebraskans resoundingly rejected an initiative that would have permitted Las Vegas-style casinos on the plains.
Oklahoma passed a lottery in part that pays excess amount of $$$$ for the upkeep of the education system of many of the children of Oklahoma...The politicians sure werent interested in making the children of this state any more intelligent were they? Oh no, they would rather worry about someones sexual orientation (And PRIVATE life) and if those same folk would want to marry someday (Finding love is a great thing, why should holy matrimony be held exclusive to those of us hetero-a-holes???)...Hell ya Oklahoma Poli-tic-tards, why dontcha worry about how drunken Billy Bob beats his wife Elle-Mae after the fact his farmyard (And very much so Government subsidized) cow/sheep/goat wasnt able to sexually please him and how he thinks his infant boy now makes a good football to kick throughout the house!!!
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:48 PM
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Oh-me-oh-my, I voted against the majority in the state (Of confusion) known as Oklahoma...I aligned myself (Along with my wife Deb) against the relig-a-tards and right wingers, I guess I should lose sleep because I'm a goin' to hell...Boo-frikkedy-hoo!!! What shall I ever do? Easy, Nothing...I shall forever remain the difficult asshole that God placed me upon this Earth to be.



Oklahoma passed a lottery in part that pays excess amount of $$$$ for the upkeep of the education system of many of the children of Oklahoma...The politicians sure werent interested in making the children of this state any more intelligent were they? Oh no, they would rather worry about someones sexual orientation (And PRIVATE life) and if those same folk would want to marry someday (Finding love is a great thing, why should holy matrimony be held exclusive to those of us hetero-a-holes???)...Hell ya Oklahoma Poli-tic-tards, why dontcha worry about how drunken Billy Bob beats his wife Elle-Mae after the fact his farmyard (And very much so Government subsidized) cow/sheep/goat wasnt able to sexually please him and how he thinks his infant boy now makes a good football to kick throughout the house!!!
I'll look forward to hanging out with you down there.
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:56 PM
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I'll look forward to hanging out with you down there.
I will be runnin' the show down there...And our special musical guests will be Fleetwood Mac, Queen, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, etc..

It will be a real hot time in the town tonight when I come to rule hell (ie-No Relig-a-tards or right wing politicians)

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Old 03-28-2006, 08:14 PM
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I will be runnin' the show down there...And our special musical guests will be Fleetwood Mac, Queen, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, etc..

It will be a real hot time in the town tonight when I come to rule hell (ie-No Relig-a-tards or right wing politicians)

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Old 03-28-2006, 10:18 PM
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The thing is, this is not a scientific sampling of Americans. It is Americans in these 11 states. So you can't really conclude that the vast majority of Americans are against same sex marriage based on this limited data. What do you suppose would happen if you included MA, NY, and CA? That would skew the results the other way IMO. Or I certainly hope it would . . . .
Only time will tell and recent polls suggests support for gay marriage is increasing http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3747451.html Of course, this is in a time period where the religious zealots have not started the hellfire and brimstone screaming.

And - please note I am happy the support is increasing. I am just once bitten twice shy on the issue because of 2004.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:36 PM
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I used to think that... But then I thought no.

Bush is just a fool and an idiot. You would only be "shooting the messenger". He gets replaced and the game carries on.

Bush is indeed the monkey. But you have many organ grinders behind him.

at one time I had a pic of Bush as the Monkey and Rove as the Organ Grinder, but I lost it somewhere.......

and Jason, I still maintain that discrediting the sock puppet would be MOST satisfying! I would LOVE to see that man (and by extention, his policies and advisors) soundly tarred with the brush of SHAME and dishonor.

it was conservative policies like these in the 50's that led to the "youthquake" of the 60's and 70's.......these eejits dont realize that history will repeat itself if they dont learn from their pasts....
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:30 AM
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This is interesting....

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Old 03-29-2006, 07:08 AM
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:21 AM
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Only time will tell and recent polls suggests support for gay marriage is increasing http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3747451.html Of course, this is in a time period where the religious zealots have not started the hellfire and brimstone screaming.

And - please note I am happy the support is increasing. I am just once bitten twice shy on the issue because of 2004.
I know, I just wanted to point out that statistics can be misleading, especially in the hands of reporters! I know that you know this but in this case they got you a bit. Which I understand because it really was such a devastating result. Still, I really don't believe it is the majority's opinion. I hope that I'm right!
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:23 AM
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You know, everytime I sleep on a couch somewhere I'm reminded of the scene in Notting Hill when Hugh is on the couch and Spike creeps downstairs and asks about Julia Roberts "Do you mind if I, err, slip her one?" What a classic scene in a great film.
I don't remember that scene! But I did like the film. You're such a guy, somehow sleeping on a couch is about sex.
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