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Richard B 03-25-2006 01:59 PM

9/11 Conspiracy Theory
 
Sheen Airs 9/11 Conspiracy Theory

Actor Charlie Sheen refuses to accept the official explanation behind the terrorist atrocities of September 11, 2001, and believes the US government covered up what really happened. Conspiracy theorist Sheen claims New York City's Twin Towers fell as the result of a "controlled demolition." Talking on US radio program The Alex Jones Show on the GGN network, he said, "It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box-cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75 per cent of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions. A couple of years ago, it was severely unpopular to talk about any of this. It feels like from the people I talk to, and the research I've done and around my circles, it feels like the worm is turning." Sheen also cast doubt over the plane that smashed into the side of the Pentagon in Washington DC. He added, "Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers... It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims, we owe it to everyone's life who was drastically altered, horrifically, that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."



Not that Charlie Sheen is any more special then anyone else and it is his belief and opinion, but do any of you here tend to think 9/11 wasn't exactly what was told to us?

Don't worry, no one will think you're a subversive.

Livia 03-25-2006 02:46 PM

That's an interesting point about the twin towers - they did IMplode, rather than EXplode.

jannieC 03-25-2006 02:58 PM

My husband has serious thoughts about this. He read a book (and saw a documentary related to the book) about it and has been convinced ever since. I'll find out the name of the book later.

johndoe 03-25-2006 03:17 PM

http://www.freedomunderground.org/me....php#Preloader

This videos been circling around the interweb for a few years. Its creepy, but I don't know if I totally belive it. If the quotes in it were from magazines and newspapers, wouldn't you think there would have been stories about this theory?

estranged4life 03-25-2006 04:36 PM

There is a conspiracy alright...
 
, a conspiracy to write more books in lew (sp) of money.

I don't worry about 911 conspiracies as I do about those involving the April 19,1995 Murrah bombing in OKC (My new attorney's office overlooks part of the Murrah site in downtown OKC...A daily reminder for those in his law office who happen to remember than day.)

I have watched the "A Call to Reopen the Sept.11 Investigation" DVD (Courtesy of reopen911.org) and most of what is shown seems very plausible, But at the some time some things seem rather "Wishful thinking"....But isnt that what makes "conspiracies" so interesting?

DavidMn 03-25-2006 05:23 PM

I just dont think that's the way it happend like Charlie Sheen says. Sometimes these actors should keep their mouth shut I think.

wondergirl9847 03-25-2006 06:47 PM

Johndoe
 
Thanks for that link. I've seen similar videos, but not that particular one. Very interesting stuff. I am SO a conspiracy theorist...I used to watch The X-Files. :laugh:

Trust No One.

irishgrl 03-25-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I just dont think that's the way it happend like Charlie Sheen says. Sometimes these actors should keep their mouth shut I think.

I disagree my dear....I can VERY much see this being a dark plot by the neocons to jump start their agenda. Ive got that CD from that site, (www.reopen911.org dont click on it, its not working for some reason!) and I appreciate the guts that Charlie Sheen is showing by speaking out. I especially appreciate him speaking out because he is a celebrity and people pay attention to celebrities.....Good for him I say...

ok, I was going to post the link so people could get their own free DVD, but I think its closed. instead, here is an affiliated link that has quite a bit of resources including downloads etc
Scholars for 911 Truth

madformac 03-25-2006 08:54 PM

Some conspiracy theories I tend to believe, others I don't.

Kennedy, sure. The Warren commission report had more holes than a string vest.

Diana? No doubt for me, the woman was out of control and that was the result. Unfortunately I mentioned this was going to happen 3 months before it did and everybody thought I was nuts, I even said it would be a car crash to look legitimate... There you go..

This one is rubbish IMO. The buildings didn't implode or get demolished, the only thing to dispute this is that the clean up team was allegedly in place two days before the event... They fell exactly as they were designed to do in a catastrophic situations. They collapsed on their own footprint. If you look at the designs and blueprints of those buildings modern skyscraper architects will tell you they were flawed. There was a documentary here in the UK solely on the design and its flaws. The emergency stairs were all in the same areas of the buildings and not in, say, the four corners to give alternative routes meaning those above the impact were trapped with no escape.

The buildings were designed to withstand an impact from a plane but not the heat of the fuel burning. The iron structure should have been sprayed with a special fire resistant foam. As I recall there were issues in this area and the framework basically melted. I'm amazed they stayed intact for as long as they did and a lot of people owe their lives to that fact.

Now if you are asking me who did it and who green lighted this attack then there are many arguements. Who is to gain? Who benefits the most? Who gets the publicity? There's an arguement it was government lead, it's entirely concievable, there's the Al Qaeda theory which is the one that is most believed then there are others too. There's more than just a few radical muslim factions that wanna hurt the USA and its economy too.. I have no idea who did it. The only thing I believe is it wouldn't have happened on Clinton's watch.

irishgrl 03-25-2006 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by madformac
Some conspiracy theories I tend to believe, others I don't.

Kennedy, sure. The Warren commission report had more holes than a string vest.

Diana? No doubt for me, the woman was out of control and that was the result. Unfortunately I mentioned this was going to happen 3 months before it did and everybody thought I was nuts, I even said it would be a car crash to look legitimate... There you go..

This one is rubbish IMO. The buildings didn't implode or get demolished, the only thing to dispute this is that the clean up team was allegedly in place two days before the event... They fell exactly as they were designed to do in a catastrophic situations. They collapsed on their own footprint. If you look at the designs and blueprints of those buildings modern skyscraper architects will tell you they were flawed. There was a documentary here in the UK solely on the design and its flaws. The emergency stairs were all in the same areas of the buildings and not in, say, the four corners to give alternative routes meaning those above the impact were trapped with no escape.

The buildings were designed to withstand an impact from a plane but not the heat of the fuel burning. The iron structure should have been sprayed with a special fire resistant foam. As I recall there were issues in this area and the framework basically melted. I'm amazed they stayed intact for as long as they did and a lot of people owe their lives to that fact.

Now if you are asking me who did it and who green lighted this attack then there are many arguements. Who is to gain? Who benefits the most? Who gets the publicity? There's an arguement it was government lead, it's entirely concievable, there's the Al Qaeda theory which is the one that is most believed then there are others too. There's more than just a few radical muslim factions that wanna hurt the USA and its economy too.. I have no idea who did it. The only thing I believe is it wouldn't have happened on Clinton's watch.


oh YE of LITTLE FAITH LOL!

I can burn you a copy of my DVD (I think) because in this case I think you are w.r.o.n.g. sorry. The strongest evidence for me was the size of the alleged hole. From what Ive seen, the "hole" should have been larger considering we're talking about a jumbo jet...there are other issues too......

Im not much of a conspiracy theorist, but in Diana's case and the re: Twin Towers, Im sorry, but I think there is more than meets the eye.

PS: if you want a copy of my DVD (assuming I can burn one for you), you will need to provide the blank.

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The only thing I believe is it wouldn't have happened on Clinton's watch.
well, it almost did.............we got lucky.
but I think that Clinton would have handled things much better than Monkey Boy, I think that goes without saying.....

wondergirl9847 03-25-2006 10:32 PM

Hmmm.....
 
The '93 bombings of the WTC happened on Clinton's watch....as did OKC.

dreamongypsydkm 03-25-2006 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I just dont think that's the way it happend like Charlie Sheen says. Sometimes these actors should keep their mouth shut I think.

People shouldn't be told to keep their mouth shut, particularly in regards to such important matters. I was just reading a quote in which Hitler was talking about people just like you

In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted …they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie… It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.

It's not just crazy people, Professor David Griffin makes excellent points, you should take these people into consideration.

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Originally Posted by madformac
The buildings were designed to withstand an impact from a plane but not the heat of the fuel burning.

The Scholars for 9/11 Truth noted that steel melts at a temperature higher than that which fire caused by jet fuel can even reach.

What confuses me is the change of command for scrambling jets in June of 2001 to leave the Secretary of Defense as the only person able to prevent attacks. He who was about the only person in the world not informed in the 52 minutes notice they had, he who was in a meeting at the Pentagon itself was unable to command the interception. The Secretary of Transportation's testimony of him directly commanding an interception not to take place was left out of the Commission Report. I don't know what I believe but it's not implausible at all, Hitler's statement rings so true and people should not be accused of being crazy, it feeds fascism.

irishgrl 03-25-2006 10:47 PM

thank you for pointing out info from a site I posted/
I realize that not everyone wil accept this info but it should be OUT THERE.

dissention 03-25-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamongypsydkm
The Scholars for 9/11 Truth noted that steel melts at a temperature higher than that which fire caused by jet fuel can even reach.

Precisely. So, having that in mind, why were partially evaporated steel members and molten steel found in the debris of WTC 7? Because it was demolished. Burning diesel can't melt steel. Larry Silverstein, the man who ran that particular complex, even told PBS that it was demolished by both him and the FDNY the afternoon of 9/11. Isn't it odd that WTC 7 fell at freefall speed when the fires in the building were practically minimal and not evenly distributed enough to make it collapse like that? The official story is WTC 1's collapse started the fires in WTC 7, fires which caused WTC 7 to collapse, so how could they have had time, especially amongst all of the chaos, to rig it so perfectly and demolish it in a matter of a few hours? A building cannot be rigged for demolition like that in such a short period of time, it had to have been done beforehand.

ryan8472 03-25-2006 11:12 PM

Joooosssshhhhhh! :D

I for one am rather intrigued by this kind of ****. Scary and sick as it is.


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