Don Henley/Stevie Nicks (Summer Tour)

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Do you guys realize Sheryl's producing track record includes That Made Me Stronger, Too Far From Texas and It's Only Love. That leaves Candlebright and Sorcerer as her decently produced songs....

Sheryl also produced "If You Ever Did Believe" and "Crystal."

I personally love the sound of all seven tracks.

One thing I don't recall any of us touching upon in the past, is the fact that Stevie co-produced most of the tracks with Shanks and Crow.
I wonder what level of involvement she had... I'd assume it must have been something fairly substantial to warrant a co-production credit on those particular tracks as opposed to any of the others.

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

And if she records a new album she needs to go back to having a really sweet backing band. That's what I think sets her earlier stuff from her new solo stuff.
Go back to playing your songs live with a good band....

I do agree that the tight "live band" sound of her earliest solo work sets it apart from her later albums, and gives those recordings a certain charm and vitality.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Do you guys realize Sheryl's producing track record includes That Made Me Stronger, Too Far From Texas and It's Only Love. That leaves Candlebright and Sorcerer as her decently produced songs and probably the only real sheryl produced standout from Shangri La was Sorcerer. But the 3 best songs IMO come from John Shanks producing or simply Stevie herself. TISL is the best but Bombay Saphire is seriously an incredible song and Stevie does it all by herself.

But Saying that I don't want Sheryl OR John Shanks back if there's ever a new album. Or any of the other one time hacks she had produce that record. And if she records a new album she needs to go back to having a really sweet backing band. That's what I think sets her earlier stuff from her new solo stuff. Take a look at the liner notes of TISL, freaking every song features JOhn Shanks playing half the instruments or something. Go back to playing your songs live with a good band (like Russ Kunkle Bob Glaub Roy Biitan Bemont Tench and Waddy) and get a fraking good producer, hell produce it all yourself.

What's wrong with It's Only Love? I'd love to hear it live, it's beautiful, IMO.
Anyway If I could choose I'd also prefer a totally new, challenging producer for Stevie, to see what their creative souls would elaborate together.

Romy

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Serrart

What's wrong with It's Only Love? I'd love to hear it live, it's beautiful, IMO.

There is a live version out there... recorded at a Sheryl Crow club performance, where Stevie guested (a night or two prior to the release of 'Shangri-La').

Her voice sounds pretty good on it, but she can't remember the lyrics to save her soul. In fact, I don't think she sang a single line correctly after the first one.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Serrart

What's wrong with It's Only Love? I'd love to hear it live, it's beautiful, IMO.
Anyway If I could choose I'd also prefer a totally new, challenging producer for Stevie, to see what their creative souls would elaborate together.

Romy

I know he like owns a record company now, but I'd love for Stevie to beg Jimmy Iovine to come back.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Serrart

I agree, Sheryl Crow was superb as a producer but I also liked a lot John Shanks' work, especially for how he squared the circle with POTU

Romy

That's part of the reason I can't stand him, his production on Planets is lackluster at best, IMO. I still love the song itself, but the sound he gave it is a bit too cold for me.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Do you guys realize Sheryl's producing track record includes That Made Me Stronger, Too Far From Texas and It's Only Love. That leaves Candlebright and Sorcerer as her decently produced songs and probably the only real sheryl produced standout from Shangri La was Sorcerer. But the 3 best songs IMO come from John Shanks producing or simply Stevie herself. TISL is the best but Bombay Saphire is seriously an incredible song and Stevie does it all by herself.

Just because the songs themselves are lackluster, it doesn't mean the production is. That Made Me Stronger is a piece of stellar production to these ears, as much I despise the song, and the same goes for It's Only Love, which I adore completely. Don't forget, too, that Sheryl essentially produced Crystal and If You Ever Did Believe. While I'm not a huge fan of those two, I still think that next to Lindsey, she comes closest to understanding Stevie when it comes to production.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

There is a live version out there... recorded at a Sheryl Crow club performance, where Stevie guested (a night or two prior to the release of 'Shangri-La').

Her voice sounds pretty good on it, but she can't remember the lyrics to save her soul. In fact, I don't think she sang a single line correctly after the first one.

Yes, I love it, her voice is wonderful on it, and the words make me think everytime how deeply Sheryl has been able to portray her. Actually I liked all the songs she played with Miss Crow that night. I think Stevie messed with all of them, but sounded so relaxed and willing to perform, that it makes me happy to listen to them.

Romy

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

There is a live version out there... recorded at a Sheryl Crow club performance, where Stevie guested (a night or two prior to the release of 'Shangri-La').

Her voice sounds pretty good on it, but she can't remember the lyrics to save her soul. In fact, I don't think she sang a single line correctly after the first one.

Oh, c'mon. That is one of my favorite bootlegs ever, but not only is Stevie drunk as a skunk, but she sounds horrid on every track and Sheryl herself is straining quite a bit, too. Stevie comes up with notes we had never heard before. But I suppose it's worth it just for SDMHA, that sucker has me in hysterics every time I hear it.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by dissention

That's part of the reason I can't stand him, his production on Planets is lackluster at best, IMO. I still love the song itself, but the sound he gave it is a bit too cold for me.

I think like for Smile at You, it's a song that can take so many directions. But I liked what John Shanks did, he was able for me to echo the lyrics' strength with his baroque arrangement.

Romy

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Serrart

But I liked what John Shanks did, he was able for me to echo the lyrics' strength with his baroque arrangement.

Romy

He certainly made it extravagant and elaborate, I'll give that to you. One of the things that I don't like about the TISL album, and Planets is a very good example of this, is that her voice was produced to have this very metallic sound to it. Her voice isn't as warm as it always is right off the bat and I think it's due to such lavish production; it's simply way too dense. Shanks just drives me bonkers in the end. Very bland and middle-aged artist AC-sounding. I would have loved to have seen Sheryl produce the whole thing.

[77Rumours77]

Hey, In wichita the big rumour is THAT STEVIE NICSK WILL TOUR WITH DONE HENLY! It will be this summer, Mid to late. Also talks if they will come here! TO WICHITA! Doubt it will never happen though!

[Hawkeye]

I just read on The LEgacy that Stevie has confirmed a Pittsburgh date in a 5,000 seat venue, I doubt that that's a venue her and Don would play together.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by 77Rumours77

Hey, In wichita the big rumour is THAT STEVIE NICSK WILL TOUR WITH DONE HENLY! It will be this summer, Mid to late. Also talks if they will come here! TO WICHITA! Doubt it will never happen though!

I'm sure they found out on Billboard.com. Until I read something confirmed on Nicksfix, I'm not holding my breath for anything.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by dissention

I remember when Aimee Mann had a new GH package coming out and she posted an open letter to her fans on her site, advising them not to buy it because it wasn't her that was releasing it, it was the record company and she didn't like it.

Rock on Aimee Mann...one of the greatest songwriters of our time (right up there with Bernie Taupin). No only did she protest that erroneous compilation album...she pretty much said f-you to record industry machine.

Several years ago (after years of being screwed around by her big label) she submitted an album that they rejected, wanting something different. For the sake of her art, and not wanting to bow down the idiotic studio bosses, she bought the album back...and went completely independent! She released it herself. She's now on indie label and doing very well. She performs in Portland frequently, and I never pay more than $25 to see her. Much respect for Aimee. Check her out!

[no_spoken_word]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I just read on The LEgacy that Stevie has confirmed a Pittsburgh date in a 5,000 seat venue, I doubt that that's a venue her and Don would play together.

Ooh really?! Great news!