How Bloody Ungratefull!!!!

[Cour]

Originally Posted by Serrart

You explained it vividly and I respect your opinion but I still don't understand the point. Isn't the important thing that those in Vegas are having a great time according to the reviews, that the concert works? What's the fun in this setlist dissection without having listened to the music? JMO of course.

Romy

Yes, it is important that the people at the shows are having a fabulous time and love the music and performance. If some fans who are not going to the shows want to discuss the setlist, and if that means voicing disappointment in her choice of songs, who cares? The same way some threads about some topics appeal to some fans and others aren't interested. I don't think you had to be at the show or going to the show to be interested in or want to discuss the setlist. Why should they be made to feel badly for voicing their opinion or told they're jealous of the fans at the shows


I don't understand how this got blown so out of proportion, it's not like this is the first time fans on this site have ever voiced disappoinment in a setlist, song, performance or anything having to do with this band or one of its members. I hope that answered your question

[David]

Originally Posted by Serrart

I understand that this could make grumpy the most educated music conoisseurs elite among FM & Stevie fans but I'm sure they can survive. I'm glad the people who were there had a great time.

You might just be the most elite of the elite. Far more than most others I know here, you have the ability to lob little digs, little pearls of sarcasm dripping with scoff, while in the same keystroke aligning yourself with the populace by blandly mouthing the hope that "the people who were there had a great time." Thumbs up.

Do the people who bash other fans in subtle, sly ways actually think that those fans can't recognize it? or that it somehow puts them on the moral high ground because it's all done with a smiley, a wink & a grin?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

My great hate around here, the concluding wink or thumbs up. Here I was thinking I was being shat on, but ending it with that wink makes the insults irrelevant then!

Never irrelevant my love

on edit - I meant YOU are never irrelevant - not the insults.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by David

You might just be the most elite of the elite. Far more than most others I know here, you have the ability to lob little digs, little pearls of sarcasm dripping with scoff, while in the same keystroke aligning yourself with the populace by blandly mouthing the hope that "the people who were there had a great time." Thumbs up.

Tsk tsk, and now my evil plan is gone...

Originally Posted by David

Do the people who bash other fans in subtle, sly ways actually think that those fans can't recognize it? or that it somehow puts them on the moral high ground because it's all done with a smiley, a wink & a grin?

Are you kidding? We all know the moral high ground is only for one and that the place is taken.

To all the others who have been gracious enough not to talk about my morality: if it wasn't clear from my posts, I was kidding without any secret intention to bash or offend anyone; I try not to do it in everyday life and I've never thought it could be smart to do it on a message board.

Okay, off to see Tiffany pictures, now...

Romy

P.S See David? No smilies.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The HORDE Festival was one of my favorite shows by him. Also, I saw him in the late 80's and the show was incredible.

He played Bass Concert Hall here on campus a few years back supporting, I believe it was "Hawkes and Doves." I missed it of course but some friends of mine went and said it was a stripped down acoustic kind of set that was just amazing. I'd kind of like to see Neil with Crazy Horse though. "Cinnamon Girl" and "Rocking in the Free World" would be worth the price of admission imo.

[highpriestess53]

Think commercially....it's not about what the fans want it's about how much these shows are going to make...the casual fans that catch the shows will want to hear all the Stevie staples in the set lists....lets say that for commercial purposes....risks will not be taken with the money and for that matter with the set list.....

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Sorcerer386

I really have mixed emotions about the awards show FFG rendition. While Stevie appeared a little nervous, and later admitted that she was totally nervous after seeing Warren Beatty (I think) in the audience, I still think a lot of the trouble was the microphone. There was definitely too much bass pouring out of that microphone, because if you listen to her thank the audience after the song, it's really low and REALLY muffled sounding. Then she goes to Sheryl's mic to talk about her award and it sounds much clearer. So while I think she had some butterflies, I blame a lot of it on the mic or the mixing of that mic or whatever it would be. Still a good performance, imo.

I agree - she looked a little nervous in the beginning but over came that - I did not like the sur VIVE note as I thought it was off key, but many kidos to her for rocking that dog and pony show

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

quote from petep9000 " I have news for some of you...Stevie exaggerates and sometimes outright LIES in interviews. I didn't believe for a minute that she'd be dragging anything substantial out of her vaults for 'the fans". This has been the case for years but at least in the past she had the excuse of being under the influence of mind altering substances.What is her alibi now? I'm afraid I 'll have to go by the old saying "Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me" when deciding if I'll attend any future shows.If by a very slight chance she ever does do something spontaneous or adventerous again then i'll think about revising my opinion.

I disagree. I do not think she lies and I would like for someone to point out a lie. I know she says songs are about different things, but it is possible that they are and she is being consistent. As for this show, I think she tried out a bunch of stuff and deceided for a myriad of possible reasons that it could not work, one of which she did not have the time to rehearse it or would not take the time to do so AND - she added four older songs she has not done in around 15 or more years and she hauled out different outfits, etc. Also, she never said, "I am performing SOTM" or some other song; she said she may, which is not a promise. So, I cannot say she lied and neither can you

On edit - the "I cannot say she lied and neither can you " - was meant in jest a la a nanny nanny boo boo

Lord - I am in a mood today - I think it is because I going to see Patti Lupone tonight at the BEAUTIFUL Fox Theatre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ienilny]

Well, I have never seen Stevie live yet, never got the chance to. (Living in Austria sometimes just isn't easy.) I am dying to see her live, so I don't really care what songs she sings, but that is just my opinion. I just feel very sad for not being able to see her, and I've been in a bad mood the entire last week just because I was thinking of the Vegas concerts and how great they're going to be and I'm not able to be there. (I am happy for the fans who are able to see her, though. ) It's just very depressing for me, but oh well.

[BombaySapphire3]

quote rginally posted by strandinthewind
'I disagree. I do not think she lies and I would like for someone to point out a lie' interveiw from MTV 1983 . MTV: "you once said you were a witch' Stevie Nicks: "I lied"

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

quote rginally posted by strandinthewind
'I disagree. I do not think she lies and I would like for someone to point out a lie' interveiw from MTV 1983 . MTV: "you once said you were a witch' Stevie Nicks: "I lied"

well, there's that

[Wild Heart]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

well, there's that

Thank you.....I'm very tired and in need of a good laugh. That was worth reading this whole freaking thread!

[Nicks Fan]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'd venture to say though, that it's a little easier for Lindsey to impress people with his setlists, because he has toured so very rarely.

As long as he didn't pull out the same setlist he did on the 'Out Of The Cradle' tour, then he should be able to please the majority of his fans.

But, if he had been touring steadily since 1981, then I'm sure there would be a lot of people saying, "God... 'Go Insane' and 'Big Love' again?!? Why can't he do something like 'Time Bomb Town' instead?"

It's just the nature of the beast. We're diehard fans... we read all the reviews, most of us go to at least one show per tour and some of us more often than that, we trade with each other to get as many bootleg concert videos and CDs as our heart's desire, and so on... so aside from Stevie retiring every song she's ever performed and starting from scratch, there's a lot of room for us to be disappointed.

Don't get me wrong... I'm right with you guys who would love to read a review of one of Stevie's tours, and be absolutely FLOORED by the wide-range of songs she's doing.
In that regard, 'Enchanted' has been the only tour that I was really seriously disappointed I missed out on.

But... if I were to finally have the ability to see Stevie perform live, I know that I wouldn't be the least disappointed by seeing "Rhiannon," "Dreams," "Gold Dust Woman," "Edge Of Seventeen," etc. In fact, after all of these years, I'd probably be pretty bummed if I didn't get to finally experience those songs in person. (Well, I did get to hear some of them on the 'Behind The Mask' tour, but that feels like a lifetime ago now.)

Just curious as to why you don't have the ability to see Stevie Live.

In response to all of the posts. When I first heard that she was playing Las Vegas I didn't really care because I knew I never could afford to go. Then when the Don Henly tour came about i was psyched for the TO show. When it was cancelled and all of the stuff sorounding the Las Vegas Happend (Jim Ladd interview etc) it made me hyped about going that I was willing to sell my ticket to see U2 in concert in my hometwown of Ottawa just to see her. U2 hasn't been here since march of 1985 so that was a big deal. But becuse of ertain laws in Ontario Canada I couldn't sell my ticket for ore then I paied so I had to suck it up that I wasn't going. After seeig the setlist I am disaponited that it turned out to be the same old same old. Still since I have never seen her live before( Going to Philadelphia) I am gald to say that I will get to hear any of her solo songs live. My only gripe is that I wish she would rop the FM songs beacuse If she did then maybe she might be willing to peerform some lesser known songs.

You all mention Neil Young but what about Melissa Etheridge? When I saw her last fall in Ottawa at her two shows the difrence in the setlist was 9 songs in a set list that ranged from about 18 songs to 21 songs per night. True she opened and closed her sets with the same songs but in between you never knew what she would play. Even Tori Amos concerts seem catered to die hard fand as she plays alot of b sides and rarities /cover songs.

Just my two cents worth.

Matt

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by Nicks Fan

Just curious as to why you don't have the ability to see Stevie Live.

In response to all of the posts. When I first heard that she was playing Las Vegas I didn't really care because I knew I never could afford to go. Then when the Don Henly tour came about i was psyched for the TO show. When it was cancelled and all of the stuff sorounding the Las Vegas Happend (Jim Ladd interview etc) it made me hyped about going that I was willing to sell my ticket to see U2 in concert in my hometwown of Ottawa just to see her. U2 hasn't been here since march of 1985 so that was a big deal. But becuse of ertain laws in Ontario Canada I couldn't sell my ticket for ore then I paied so I had to suck it up that I wasn't going. After seeig the setlist I am disaponited that it turned out to be the same old same old. Still since I have never seen her live before( Going to Philadelphia) I am gald to say that I will get to hear any of her solo songs live. My only gripe is that I wish she would rop the FM songs beacuse If she did then maybe she might be willing to peerform some lesser known songs.

You all mention Neil Young but what about Melissa Etheridge? When I saw her last fall in Ottawa at her two shows the difrence in the setlist was 9 songs in a set list that ranged from about 18 songs to 21 songs per night. True she opened and closed her sets with the same songs but in between you never knew what she would play. Even Tori Amos concerts seem catered to die hard fand as she plays alot of b sides and rarities /cover songs.

Just my two cents worth.

Matt

You're right...I saw Tori in Atlanta on 04-04-05...and the next night she only played a total of 4 of the same songs she played in Atlanta, out of 19...so thats a 15 song difference in one night...she does that every night...

with that being said...shes not Stevie..and Stevie does NOT do that..and ive accepted it and im ok with it

Chris

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Nicks Fan

Just curious as to why you don't have the ability to see Stevie Live.

Hi, Matt,

I have a panic/anxiety disorder, with a healthy dash of agoraphobic tendencies thrown in there for good measure.

Beyond even that, tickets are usually pretty far out of my budget anyway.