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Old 03-27-2006, 08:59 AM
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Clinton chose NOT to go to war. he didnt take the bait (assuming it was a provocation) and Monkey Boy did, in fact, Monkey Boy couldnt wait.
Personally I think that is the key point people are overlooking. The same stunt was pulled twice. Those with "absolute power" in the USA tried it on with Clinton in '93 and it didn't work. The same stunt went down in 2001 with a bigger more dramatic effect to make sure and Cliff "W" Barnes fell for it.

Lets face it. After big George left office in '93, to him, unexpectedly, they needed a way to continue policy. But Clinton made them wait another 8 years. So with "W" they got it. They made sure he got in and they made sure it was for two terms as well.... Everything surrounding the WTC is just, unfortunately, small and inconsequential in the bigger plans of this hidden policy. It was a neccessary trigger for plans to continue.
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Old 03-27-2006, 12:22 PM
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LOL!!!!!!

I think the US will do whatever it takes to secure the flow of oil - but flying planes into our own buildings is a little too much of a stretch for me

Also - I think Babs is Yoda
I agree with you. But isn't it possible they knew where the planes were heading and said, "Let them hit." knowing this could be their justification for a war in the middleast? I think they knew what was happening and did nothing. Whether that was deliberate or due to complete incompetence is the mystery IMO. I would tend to believe it was incompetence but I wouldn't put anything past this administration.
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Old 03-27-2006, 12:30 PM
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That is just such a pet peeve of mine and the right, mostly via Fox News et al, use it constantly. They imply that just because a person is a celebrity, they have no credibility, etc. Then, they villify them for it instead of replying to the statement from the celebrity. Then, they venerate the opinions of celebrities who agree with them. And - they do it for ratings. The whole thing makes me sick.
Well, when you put it that way, I can certainly see your point.
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Old 03-27-2006, 12:31 PM
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Every transition period is chaotic...I cant think of ANYONE who can be up to speed at a new job in 4 wks time. as the President, there is a lot of info to catch up on...and yes, they do get briefed, but there's the business of picking cabinet members and other assistants who DO the briefing for cripes sake. Clinton chose NOT to go to war. he didnt take the bait (assuming it was a provocation) and Monkey Boy did, in fact, Monkey Boy couldnt wait.
Also, Clinton told the Bush admin that Al Qaeda was the number one threat they should be looking out for, information which they promptly disregarded.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:03 PM
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think of what Moussaoui (A former Norman, OK resident) said, in his own words today on the stand during his trial, About how both he and Richard Reid ("the shoe bomber") were to have hijacked a 5th airplane on 911 to crash into the White House?
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:07 PM
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think of what Moussaoui (A former Norman, OK resident) said, in his own words today on the stand during his trial, About how both he and Richard Reid ("the shoe bomber") were to have hijacked a 5th airplane on 911 to crash into the White House?
I'm very interested in seeing what he has to say. I honestly dont know what to expect.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:11 PM
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Every transition period is chaotic...I cant think of ANYONE who can be up to speed at a new job in 4 wks time. as the President, there is a lot of info to catch up on...and yes, they do get briefed, but there's the business of picking cabinet members and other assistants who DO the briefing for cripes sake.
Watching that video about the Pentagon crash though...they sure got their crap together lightning fast to get alllll those videos from the various angles....didn't they? They can light a fire under their a$$...when they want to.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:13 PM
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Watching that video about the Pentagon crash though...they sure got their crap together lightning fast to get alllll those videos from the various angles....didn't they? They can light a fire under their a$$...when they want to.
Now that you mention it, I do remember how fast that came together.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:37 PM
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(9/11 conspiracy therory) Holy **** guy's, you're creepen me out! Very, very interesting and enlightning read. I saw the Charlie Sheen interview and was totally blown away by it. I applaud him and CNN Showbiz for airing it. I haven't had a chance yet to view the links that were posted here but I will. It certainly makes you wonder.

Wow, this paragraph really hit it home for me:
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What this attack did was give the USA unlimited excuses to attack "threats" to its interests. It does seem very convenient doesn't it? America cannot live without oil and if you need something to survive you are gonna do whatever to get it.
Can I come & live with you?
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:53 PM
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:13 PM
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Yes, you Americans are always welcome here Although, it's probably just a matter of time before Bush tries to take control of our oil.
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:15 PM
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Old 03-27-2006, 06:59 PM
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Yes, you Americans are always welcome here Although, it's probably just a matter of time before Bush tries to take control of our oil.
In which case you can all hire a flight and come over here.
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Old 03-27-2006, 08:35 PM
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Watching that video about the Pentagon crash though...they sure got their crap together lightning fast to get alllll those videos from the various angles....didn't they? They can light a fire under their a$$...when they want to.
I agree. I just sense that the degree of culpability is astronomically greater under Monkey Boy than it ever was under Clinton. And I hold him infinitesimally more accountable.
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In which case you can all hire a flight and come over here.
Jason? you still up for that Balloon ride over the auld sod? you can regale us with your exquisite rendition of Danny Boy??
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