Stevie did a Bat Mitzvah - Page 5

strandinthewind · #61 11-29-2005, 05:32 PM

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How are you possibly misunderstanding it that way? He is not saying, "Rich people are assholes." He is saying, "Rich people who raise their children to be spoiled brats who expect to have every luxury handed to them are assholes, as are those children. . . .

It was his use of the word "another" - which indicates there are more, etc. That is where I was getting it from.

Jyqm · #62 11-29-2005, 05:34 PM

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I would do the same if someone said all black people steal. Surely some do, but not all do, which is the stereotype. I hate stereotypes. That is what I am doing, not defending, etc.

But he never said that all rich people were assholes...

Nor did he imply it. You simply misread the sentence.

dissention · #63 11-29-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

It was his use of the word "another" - which indicates there are more, etc.

There's not more than one rich asshole?

strandinthewind · #64 11-29-2005, 05:36 PM

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There's not more than one rich asshole?

I am sure there are (is?) . I was just adding more on that than he meant. So sue me.

Jyqm · #65 11-29-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

It was his use of the word "another" - which indicates there are more, etc. That is where I was getting it from.

Do you mean his use of the word "more"? "Creating more rich assholes?"

There are more. There are lots of rich assholes out there who raise rich asshole children. Again, tune into an episode of "My Super Sweet Sixteen."

strandinthewind · #66 11-29-2005, 05:38 PM

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Do you mean his use of the word "more"? "Creating more rich assholes?"

There are more. There are lots of rich assholes out there who raise rich asshole children. Again, tune into an episode of "My Super Sweet Sixteen."

I know that. But, it is the presumption that all rich people are sort of presumed to be jerks that is underlying that. Maybe that is not what you are saying though.

Also, I took the "more" to mean all rich people are assholes. In other words, one more of an exclusive group.

dissention · #67 11-29-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I know that. But, it is the presumption that all rich people are sort of presumed to be jerks that is underlying that. Maybe that is not what you are saying though.

Also, I took the "more" to mean all rich people are assholes. In other words, one more of an exclusive group.

Are you seriously arguing that in his post, he presumed that all rich people are assholes? That defies common sense, Jason, and I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to argue that. Good christ.

I'll tell you, though, I can only imagine the piece of work that would spend millions like that on a bat mitzvah. And I shudder to think of what a spoiled brat the kid must be.

Jyqm · #68 11-29-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I know that. But, it is the presumption that all rich people are sort of presumed to be jerks that is underlying that. Maybe that is not what you are saying though.

Also, I took the "more" to mean all rich people are assholes. In other words, one more of an exclusive group.

Okay. But he wasn't making that presumption.

What's the deal, why all the justification? A simple, "Oh, okay, oops, I misread what he was saying," would suffice.

Jyqm · #69 11-29-2005, 05:43 PM

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I'll tell you, though, I can only imagine the piece of work that would spend millions like that on a bat mitzvah. And I shudder to think of what a spoiled brat the kid must be.

DON'T JUDGE!!!

strandinthewind · #70 11-29-2005, 05:44 PM

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Okay. But he wasn't making that presumption.

What's the deal, why all the justification? A simple, "Oh, okay, oops, I misread what he was saying," would suffice.

I was trying to explain myself and why I thought that. I still think the underlying presumption is all rich people are assholes or some variation of that.

WelshWitchPMD · #71 11-29-2005, 05:45 PM

All that I have to add is this: Just today I was thinking that it would be wild for Stevie or Fleetwood Mac to do a benefit show at The Rainbow Room in NYC. Isn't that weird?

Of course a kid's party is not what I had in mind.

strandinthewind · #72 11-29-2005, 05:46 PM

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Are you seriously arguing that in his post, he presumed that all rich people are assholes? That defies common sense, Jason, and I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to argue that. Good christ . . . .

It came across that way when I read it

strandinthewind · #73 11-29-2005, 05:47 PM

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DON'T JUDGE!!!

Actually, it is judge all you want, but get ready to be judged when you do

BTW - instead of typing, aren't you supposed to be working extra time to feed more of the poor?

dissention · #74 11-29-2005, 05:48 PM

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It came across that way when I read it

You obviously misread it.

JazmenFlowers · #75 11-29-2005, 05:51 PM

I don't have the time or energy to read through all this, but I will say that it's awesome that Stevie was asked and got a little pocket change. In my opinion, it's no one's business how anyone chooses to spend his or her money, as hard as it is for me to say that. Yeah, I loathe those biotches on "My Sweet Sixteen" and yeah, most of the people like that I know are asses and aren't worth 2 squirts of ducksh*t (copyright Diss) and in a perfect world the father would've thought more about shelling $10M on a freaking bat mitzvah, but this ain't OZ...in sum, who gives a fug? It amazes me how some on this board take a post and with one little reply twist it and the thread takes on another life. So the "rich" kid got an extravagant bday party and Stevie performed and got paid and the father could've have done a lot of really great stuff with that money, but he didn't...

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