Its Official: Lindsay Lohan Has Covered "Edge Of Seventeen" For New Album - Page 5

GateandGarden · #61 11-06-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

And what "harm" does that do?

It hurts my everything.

I just can't answer that question seriously. There are a lot of things we complain about on this board that do far less harm than Bush's foreign policy, of course. As I said, I enjoy overreacting about certain things and this is one of them.

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Oh please. People write a lot of ridiculous crap on this board, but this goes up there at the top.

Okay, if you wanna be a jackass about it. I guess it's some honor bestowed upon me and I'd say it's quite a feat, especially considering many of the things Brandon has said in the past.

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Stevie apparently doesn't view this as an insult, considering she helped with the recording of the track. Actually, I think covering someone else's material is generally considered a sign of respect.

Is Lohan's cover going to be any good? Probably not. But all this goddess worship crap, "Nobody has any right to ever cover her songs because nobody else could ever be so ineffably wondrously mystically miraculously radiantly brilliant as Steeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee!!!" is completely idiotic.

If you think I'm one of those people who thinks Stevie truly is some goddess you really don't know me; the judgments are unwarranted, IMO. I think many singer/songwriters have signature songs that no one else can touch. And that doesn't even necessarily mean they should be viewed as brilliant; it's just that their songs are especially personal.

Of course I can't help but agree that Stevie must not feel insulted because she approved of and apparently participated in it. But that's just one of a few things I know of that I don't particularly like about her. It sounds like a money thing to me and nothing else. I don't have any respect for that. But then my point of view has no bearing on anything, really, though that could be said for all of us on here.

You could tone it down just a tad. I didn't mean to actually have something of an argument over it. Besides, it's just not nice to put a girl down when she does it so often herself. I think I've got that covered. Ah, but then it is "just a message board."

dissention · #62 11-06-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

If you think I'm one of those people who thinks Stevie truly is some goddess you really don't know me; the judgments are unwarranted, IMO. I think many singer/songwriters have signature songs that no one else can touch. And that doesn't even necessarily mean they should be viewed as brilliant; it's just that their songs are especially personal.

To be honest, the main reason I don't care for covers of her songs is because half the charm of her songs is the fact that she's the one singing them. Stevie Nicks singing "Edge of Seventeen" is an awesome aural experience, whereas in the hands of someone else, it's going to sound silly because it essentially is silly. But you don't think so when she's singing "Sings a song, sounds like she's singing." Her crazy personality is what sells her songs. Take that away and you take most of the appeal away.

GateandGarden · #63 11-06-2005, 12:18 PM

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To be honest, the main reason I don't care for covers of her songs is because half the charm of her songs is the fact that she's the one singing them. Stevie Nicks singing "Edge of Seventeen" is an awesome aural experience, whereas in the hands of someone else, it's going to sound silly because it essentially is silly. But you don't think so when she's singing "Sings a song, sounds like she's singing." Her crazy personality is what sells her songs. Take that away and you take most of the appeal away.

Yeah, that's a good point. I can't tell you how many lyrics she has that I wouldn't think much of otherwise. (I know we've had many threads about that, anyway). There are so many that look really absurd if you just write them down; her voice is what makes them into something else. I don't feel that way about all of her songs, but quite a few of them.

Sahara · #64 11-06-2005, 12:53 PM

It's dreadful news all round. And I could just about tolerate having to jump and go "Did someone mention Lindsey? Buckingham?" every time anyone mentioned her name...

It was bad enough jumping to attention every time I heard Bootylicious!!

Anyway, hopefully it'll sink back under soon enough. I don't want to hear it, I don't think my nerves could take it.

ShangriLaTroubl · #65 11-06-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

And what "harm" does that do?

Oh please. People write a lot of ridiculous crap on this board, but this goes up there at the top.

Stevie apparently doesn't view this as an insult, considering she helped with the recording of the track. Actually, I think covering someone else's material is generally considered a sign of respect.

Is Lohan's cover going to be any good? Probably not. But all this goddess worship crap, "Nobody has any right to ever cover her songs because nobody else could ever be so ineffably wondrously mystically miraculously radiantly brilliant as Steeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee!!!" is completely idiotic.

I can't speak for everyone, but I know the only annoying thing for me personally is not usually the cover itself..It's when the song, like Landslide, which was written by Stevie becomes known by a whole new generation as a Dixie Chicks song. It's when Stevie doesn't get the credit, is when I get annoyed. And that often happens when a new artist covers an old great song, the new kids listening think that it's their song..

MacMan · #66 11-06-2005, 01:20 PM

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I can't speak for everyone, but I know the only annoying thing for me personally is not usually the cover itself..It's when the song, like Landslide, which was written by Stevie becomes known by a whole new generation as a Dixie Chicks song. It's when Stevie doesn't get the credit, is when I get annoyed. And that often happens when a new artist covers an old great song, the new kids listening think that it's their song..

One of the great things is that in the liner notes of cds, you have acknowledge the writers of the music, so to a fan that buys, if they are that interested in who wrote the track and want to dig deeper, they can see who wrote it and maybe discover the writer that way... Either way, it's cash in the bank for Stevie, which is a good thing along with maybe the younger gen. discovering her. I'm not so against covers... but if they are crap, I'd rather they stay buried!

JazmenFlowers · #67 11-06-2005, 02:28 PM

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I want to hear it. And I like Hohan's new single. Bite me.

me too. the remix is even better.

GypsyAsh · #68 11-06-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

It hurts my everything.

I just can't answer that question seriously. There are a lot of things we complain about on this board that do far less harm than Bush's foreign policy, of course. As I said, I enjoy overreacting about certain things and this is one of them.
Okay, if you wanna be a jackass about it. I guess it's some honor bestowed upon me and I'd say it's quite a feat, especially considering many of the things Brandon has said in the past.

If you think I'm one of those people who thinks Stevie truly is some goddess you really don't know me; the judgments are unwarranted, IMO. I think many singer/songwriters have signature songs that no one else can touch. And that doesn't even necessarily mean they should be viewed as brilliant; it's just that their songs are especially personal.

Of course I can't help but agree that Stevie must not feel insulted because she approved of and apparently participated in it. But that's just one of a few things I know of that I don't particularly like about her. It sounds like a money thing to me and nothing else. I don't have any respect for that. But then my point of view has no bearing on anything, really, though that could be said for all of us on here.

You could tone it down just a tad. I didn't mean to actually have something of an argument over it. Besides, it's just not nice to put a girl down when she does it so often herself. I think I've got that covered. Ah, but then it is "just a message board."

Right On!

Ciao!
Ash
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GateandGarden · #69 11-06-2005, 06:04 PM

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Right On!

Ciao!
Ash
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Well thanks.

dissention · #70 11-06-2005, 06:12 PM

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me too. the remix is even better.

Have you heard "I Live For the Day" yet? Her voice is pretty gravelly (for her, at least) on it, so I'm curious as to how Edge of Seventeen is going to sound.

She's harmless fluff. Much better than Hootchie Spears, Asslee Simpson, and Horsey Duff and those other idiots.

JazmenFlowers · #71 11-06-2005, 06:33 PM

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Have you heard "I Live For the Day" yet? Her voice is pretty gravelly (for her, at least) on it, so I'm curious as to how Edge of Seventeen is going to sound.

She's harmless fluff. Much better than Hootchie Spears, Asslee Simpson, and Horsey Duff and those other idiots.

I haven't but I'll check it out. I really liked Rumors and Over and I like this new one. I lump her in with the others you mentioned as just carefree, cool music to listen to...tho I will say I love Ashlee Simpson's first cd. I think there are some great songs on there.

Jyqm · #72 11-06-2005, 08:44 PM

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Nope, as I said, I don't think Edge should be covered. Not because of goddess worship, or whatever you've written above, but because the song is so intensely personal.

What is intensely personal about it, though? Aisde from the fact that Stevie claims one of the verses is about that one experience in the hospital, the lyrics are almost totally inscrutable.

Jyqm · #73 11-06-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I guess it's some honor bestowed upon me and I'd say it's quite a feat, especially considering many of the things Brandon has said in the past.

Well, Stevie-related crap.

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If you think I'm one of those people who thinks Stevie truly is some goddess you really don't know me; the judgments are unwarranted, IMO.

Sorry, I didn't mean to direct that specifically at you. if you like to overreact to Lohan covering "Edge of Seventeen," I like to overreact to the hypocrisy of Stevie fans getting all upset and calling her a "talentless whore" and such. Then go and get upset because some critic says Stevie sounds like a goat. Glass houses, and that whole thing.

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I think many singer/songwriters have signature songs that no one else can touch.

Okay. I completely disagree.

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Of course I can't help but agree that Stevie must not feel insulted because she approved of and apparently participated in it. But that's just one of a few things I know of that I don't particularly like about her. It sounds like a money thing to me and nothing else.

I can't imagine it's just a money thing, because if she completely didn't care who used her songs how, she'd sell them all to commercials and such. She seems to just enjoy participating in stuff like this with other artists, whether they're crappy or not. (Despite her claims of owning 300,000 CDs, I think Stevie might be slightly out of touch with the top 40 music scene.)

dissention · #74 11-06-2005, 09:04 PM

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I haven't but I'll check it out. I really liked Rumors and Over and I like this new one. I lump her in with the others you mentioned as just carefree, cool music to listen to...tho I will say I love Ashlee Simpson's first cd. I think there are some great songs on there.

I Live For the Day: http://rapidshare.de/files/7274431/l...mple_.mp3.html

Black Hole: http://rapidshare.de/files/7284035/L...clip_.mp3.html

ShangriLaTroubl · #75 11-06-2005, 09:09 PM

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Well, Stevie-related crap.

Sorry, I didn't mean to direct that specifically at you. if you like to overreact to Lohan covering "Edge of Seventeen," I like to overreact to the hypocrisy of Stevie fans getting all upset and calling her a "talentless whore" and such. Then go and get upset because some critic says Stevie sounds like a goat. Glass houses, and that whole thing.

Okay. I completely disagree.

I can't imagine it's just a money thing, because if she completely didn't care who used her songs how, she'd sell them all to commercials and such. She seems to just enjoy participating in stuff like this with other artists, whether they're crappy or not. (Despite her claims of owning 300,000 CDs, I think Stevie might be slightly out of touch with the top 40 music scene.)

She probably hasnt listened to all 300,000