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Old 04-30-2003, 01:13 PM
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How cute are we all for getting so emotionally involved with this band and its individual members?!? Seriously, do fans of other groups have as many fights as we do about this kind of BS? Even though sometimes it's annoying, I love it, I think it's so adorable, and it really shows how adament we all in demonstrating our affection.

But, I think a shrink would have a blast with our little group. We do have some serious codependency issues...

Now everybody kiss and make up.
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:15 PM
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And you know for a fact that Lindsey hit anybody? If I recall correctly, Stevie in recent years has admitted that she jumped on him.


What in the hell does this have to do with whether or not he is overrated?? Uh..let's see...nothing...Both Stevie and Linds were spoiled rotten rock stars who have had not so nice moments..but Linds is still an AWESOME guitarist and Stevie is still and AWESOME singer/songwriter...so don't drag their personal behavior(from 16 years ago even) into the mix.
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:15 PM
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Why is anyone attributing Stevie's somber mood to her being upset over the sequencing of the album?
Lindsey said that this is one of the things that Stevie was upset about. I forget what interview it was. I think he pretty much implied that he won and she lost.
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:47 PM
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I think your overrated.

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Old 04-30-2003, 01:54 PM
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What in the hell does this have to do with whether or not he is overrated??
I agree. I was merely responding. As apparently you were above.
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Lindsey said that this is one of the things that Stevie was upset about. I forget what interview it was. I think he pretty much implied that he won and she lost.

I've read all of the articles here and Burnish.net has just about every single article and radio and tv interview. Perhaps you can give us the exact quote where you think Lindsey "pretty much implied that he won and she lost". I've read that there were problems and disagreements cutting the album back from 2 discs and Stevie was unhappy with the sequencing, period. I did not read or hear any specifics as to what sequencing was prefered by which band member and how the final sequencing was finalized and what specific compromises were made. I did not read anywhere that Stevie lost and Lindsey won.

Again, the final sequencing took place almost 3 months ago and since we haven't seen any video of Stevie during that time period, why would we think that's the cause for her somber mood 3 months later. We've also seen video footage and read interviews that took place after the sequencing where Stevie says she's happy with the cd, etc.
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:31 PM
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Strand, your characterization of what went on at the time of Lindsey's departure in 1987 is incredibly biased, and therefore not worth debating anymore. Suffice it to say that Lindsey has NEVER hit the creative low points that Stevie has. As much as I would have liked him to release more albums, if he'd released crap like Other Side of the Mirror and Street Angel, I would have stopped paying attention to him. As I did to her.
If you can point out any blatant bias in what I have said, then so be it. I do not however see any blatant bias. I do, however, want to say, that I think all five behaved badly during TITN, but I think backing out of an already booked tour was a horrible thing to do even considering the slack he should be cut for his injured mood, etc. But, hey - people may differ on this and say SN's behavior was "worse" because she breezed in at the end still shaking from rehab and then raised a stink about not being on the songs on the record, etc. Again, I think that is minor compared to costing many people their jobs by backing out of what was already booked.

Also, I never said anything about anyone's creative lows. Certainly people have perceived them all as having had them. I just said LB needed FM, which means SN. I think SN was great for doing it, when she clearly did not have to, to get LB's songs released and also to have her songs released. Don't forget she benefits as well from the FM name, although not as much sales wise as LB. Moreover, although LB says he may have been able to get the label to release the GOS songs, I think the label was much nicer to him once they were financially salivating at the prospect of FM as opposed to either a LB or SN solo record.


Again, if you can point out the obvious you mention, then so be it.
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But just how do you handle nonsensical statements about feeding water to rock stars in events that never took place?
Well not by throwing pot-shots at their posting styles, thats all I was trying to say. Emotions are quite hot in here and sometimes its better to defuse than egnite.

I agree with SomethingofADreamer ~ our devotions obviously intense, LOL!
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:37 PM
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I do, however, want to say, that I think all five behaved badly during TITN, but I think backing out of an already booked tour was a horrible thing to do even considering the slack he should be cut for his injured mood, etc. But, hey - people may differ on this and say SN's behavior was "worse" because she breezed in at the end still shaking from rehab and then raised a stink about not being on the songs on the record, etc. Again, I think that is minor compared to costing many people their jobs by backing out of what was already booked.
Hehe. No offense Strand, but your bias is pretty thoroughly visible in this characterization alone. But hey, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:40 PM
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Hehe. No offense Strand, but your bias is pretty thoroughly visible in this characterization alone.
I still do not see it. I do see that I am making an opinion based on the facts as I know them. But, if others see that as bias, I stand down, hat in hand, and humble pie in my mouth, etc.
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Well not by throwing pot-shots at their posting styles, thats all I was trying to say.
Ok, you've told me what you would not do. But how would you respond to this:

Wait a minute....Wasn't that you who was at that Softball game for the washed up rock stars????You were bringing Lindsey some water...

Just curious.
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Recognizing your own biases is always a tough thing. I, however, had no problem admitting that I much prefer Lindsey to Stevie. Afer, all he is the better person.

By the way, I was unaware that Lindsey had cost so many people their jobs.

Well, then, I'm glad he's back and touring cuz God knows our economy needs a shot in the arm.
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Ok, you've told me what you would not do. But how would you respond to this:

Wait a minute....Wasn't that you who was at that Softball game for the washed up rock stars????You were bringing Lindsey some water...

Just curious.
Personally I would try to rise above pettiness like that, but that's just me as I said.
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:51 PM
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I still do not see it. I do see that I am making an opinion based on the facts as I know them. But, if others see that as bias, I stand down, hat in hand, and humble pie in my mouth, etc.
Hehe. It tends to come in the form of --

Lindsey's mere "injured mood" vs. Stevie's "shaking from rehab"

Stevie didn't actually go directly to the Tango sessions after rehab. There was the detour to go on the road with Tom Petty for a while sandwiched in between.

Additionally, the characterization that Lindsey's actions endangered jobs, but Stevie's didn't kind of puzzles me. If everyone put Stevie's level of time into the Tango album, where would that have left the album and those jobs? It's all in how you choose to be sympathetic to the plights of one and not the other. We all do it. I do it too.

As it is, the album got made despite Stevie's almost total absence and the tour got done despite Lindsey's total absence. So it's pretty much ancient history, no?
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Personally I would try to rise above pettiness like that, but that's just me as I said.
That still doesn't answer the question, does it? You're merely passing judgment.

But... never mind.
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