old article- abortions

[Remy]

So I've been browsing through some old articles...This one from VOX mag, 1992. Deserted by Mick Fleetwood, bullied by her record company, and haunted by the memory of four abortions, Stevie Nicks is rich but not happy.

FOUR??

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by Remy

So I've been browsing through some old articles...This one from VOX mag, 1992. Deserted by Mick Fleetwood, bullied by her record company, and haunted by the memory of four abortions, Stevie Nicks is rich but not happy.

FOUR??

Hmm...maybe someone could have explained to her about contraception...

[Tango]

Yes FOUR. Neither Stevie or her partners were particlarly responsible people. This conversation always tends to end up being judgemental, but it's part of her past. I guess this article pops up from time to time here and on other boards. The whole band did a lot of drugs--more than most of us can imagine. They were not particularly responsible in a lot of areas of their lives. Mick did a lot of drugs, cheated on his wife and went bankrupt, several times. I suspect if pregnancy were a possibility in men's lives, a few of the men in Fleetwood Mac would also be pregnant several times! Lindsey did a lot of drugs and 'abused' at least two women. John did a lot of drugs and became a alcoholic, and was self destructive to his own health. Did they all practice safe sex? Who knows. But it's doubtful. Christine did a lot of drugs and alcohol--but had herself sterilized. Did she get sterilized after having had to "deal" with the situation in the past? Only she knows. It's a drastic step. Perhaps she is the most responsible of the irresponsible in the band.

If anyone is looking for 'role models of the 70s for your children', this might not be a good band to choose. Then again are there role models from rock & roll bands from the 70s or any era? People on drugs/alcohol or 'other influences' aren't particularly responsible folks. They do make for interesting discussion. It's their history that makes them who they are. Their history fashioned and affected their music. They find they can't always fix the past. Their regret is in their music.

Christine points out:
Why not think about times to come,
And not about the things that you've done

Yesterday's gone. Yesterday's gone.

[Remy]

I wasn't about to be judgemental. I was wondering if the author had it right.

[SortaSavageLike]

Are you sure? I heard she has 1,457,312,641 abortions.

[Sanne2]

I have that article, it's a very interesting read not just because it mentions the abortions but also it tells something about the state she was in at the time (a very bad state)

[DashingDan]

Originally Posted by Sanne2

I have that article, it's a very interesting read not just because it mentions the abortions but also it tells something about the state she was in at the time (a very bad state)

Yes, it is a very interesting read. She's very plaintive and pathetic-sounding at times. I purchased the mag back when it came out, not knowing it had a Stevie article in it. I was really psyched when I turned the page and saw it, but after I read it. and saw the pictures, I was bummed out for days. There were many details in the article that made me think,"Wow, she's really checked out of life".. I had pretty much given up on her being productive after reading that (particularly after seeing a very piss-poor zonked out timespace show). Remember, no one knew about the klonopin then, and she wasn't talking about it either.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike

Are you sure? I heard she has 1,457,312,641 abortions.

Stevie has also been in love exactly 17 thousand and twelve times.

But the BIG loves of her life - the REALLY Earth-SHATTERING ones - - - were Lindsey, Don Henley, Joe Walsh, Jimmy Iovine, Tom Petty, Prince, Paul Fishkin, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Karen Anderson, Kenny Rogers, Mike Campbell, Sheryl Crow, Waddy Wachtell, some anonymous waiter, and this guy named "You" who fell in love in 1958.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

and this guy named "You" who fell in love in 1958.

Man, I forgot all about him...

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Stevie has also been in love exactly 17 thousand and twelve times. LLY Earth-SHATTERING ones - - - were Lindsey, Don Henley, Joe Walsh, Jimmy Iovine, Tom Petty, Prince, Paul Fishkin, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Karen Anderson, Kenny Rogers, Mike Campbell, Sheryl Crow, Waddy Wachtell, some anonymous waiter,

But the BIG loves of her life - the REAand this guy named "You" who fell in love in 1958.

OMG. U did the math.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

But the BIG loves of her life - the REALLY Earth-SHATTERING ones - - - were.....

You forgot about Andy. Stevie was totally smitten with him, and he inspired one of her greatest songs.

"Andy was just like a great dark wing...."

She was also quite taken with Howie and his strength & determination.

"Howie could make it... Howie could get out...."

She's had many loves, our Stevie.

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Stevie has also been in love exactly 17 thousand and twelve times.

But the BIG loves of her life - the REALLY Earth-SHATTERING ones - - - were Lindsey, Don Henley, Joe Walsh, Jimmy Iovine, Tom Petty, Prince, Paul Fishkin, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Karen Anderson, Kenny Rogers, Mike Campbell, Sheryl Crow, Waddy Wachtell, some anonymous waiter, and this guy named "You" who fell in love in 1958.

Actually I don't mind Stevie's promiscuity. It means I'm still in with a chance!!!

[cratesok6]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Stevie has also been in love exactly 17 thousand and twelve times.

But the BIG loves of her life - the REALLY Earth-SHATTERING ones - - - were Lindsey, Don Henley, Joe Walsh, Jimmy Iovine, Tom Petty, Prince, Paul Fishkin, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Karen Anderson, Kenny Rogers, Mike Campbell, Sheryl Crow, Waddy Wachtell, some anonymous waiter, and this guy named "You" who fell in love in 1958.

If you do the math, that's alot of abortions per love affair! Oh, and you forgot to add me, which by the way inspired her to write just about every song she ever wrote (except Sara of course).

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by Tango

If anyone is looking for 'role models of the 70s for your children', this might not be a good band to choose. Then again are there role models from rock & roll bands from the 70s or any era? People on drugs/alcohol or 'other influences' aren't particularly responsible folks. They do make for interesting discussion. It's their history that makes them who they are. Their history fashioned and affected their music. They find they can't always fix the past. Their regret is in their music.

I differ from your perspective. Role models are not perfect the design (by who's standards?), but those who have lived through and overcome and suceeded despite extreme circumstances. The members of Fleetwood Mac fit that bill, and I don't see any of the band members now suffering in regret over their past real life experiences! In fact, it's been a source of inspiration for their art! And it's made them the people they are today. (Stevie's revisionist take on this issue is extremely hypocritcal in my opinion...but whatever). The litmis test for you seems to be their drug history. I'm less judgemental on this subject.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

. . . The members of Fleetwood Mac fit that bill, and I don't see any of the band members now suffering in regret over their past real life experiences! In fact, it's been a source of inspiration for their art! (Stevie's revisionist take on this issue is extremely hypocritcal in my opinion...but whatever) . . . .

???????

How is she revising anything?

La Nicks admits to the drugs and openly speaks of her addictions. She also has said that the inner turmoil in FM caused great art and that angst still exists to day and is an inspiration to her and LB.