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Old 07-23-2011, 08:13 PM
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Thank God no one in Fleetwood Mac could ever be described as a "junkie."
Well I don't know about "junkie". Only Welch was an heroin addict.

Junkie - a narcotics addict, especially one using heroin.

Oh and I'm having a day listening to Amy. So sad but I do remember saying several years back that she wouldn't make it past 27. Not like we couldn't all see it coming. Still sad though...
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
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Its very sad news to hear that Amy Winehouse has died.Being only 27 years old is to young to die.She was a very talented but tortured with addictions and destructive behavior.RIP Amy
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:13 PM
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So very sad and tragic. RIP Amy. I was worried about her wellbeing somewhat like was I worried about Stevie during her days of addiction. Seeing Stevie during 'The Dance' era looking cleaned up and with it sort of lifted that worry forever. But there is still a very small chance that Amy may have died from a freak accident or natural causes. I willing to bet that alcohol played a large part in her demise.
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Ha Ha. So true. This could have easily been Stevie's fate. And, if at 27 that would have been in 1975 really before the "new" FM hit it big
Yes she wasn't into it at the time,am I right.It was a couple of years into FM.In the 1980's was scary when Stevie got into trouble with that crap when she went to the Betty Ford Clinic.I think I cried when that happed.CBS news had a story tonight about Amy.They show a clip of her concert early this year.She was out of it at the concert and forgot the words.How sad.This clip reminds me of the movie "Coal Miners Daughter" The Loretta Lynn story.In the movie they showed Loretta played by Sissy Spacek doing drugs .I think it was sleeping pills.At a performance she was out of it and forgot the words of her hit tune.Also the movie the Rose with Bette Midler.It's sad these artist get involve with the bottle and drugs.We've lost alot of great one because of this stinkin' habit that taken their lifes at a young age.Fame and fortune pays a price.
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I don't think Stevie ever had the extreme personality/mental issues that Amy Winehouse had. Stevie's addictions/problems were never at the levels that Amy's were. So many variables come in to play in these situations, with regard to nature/nuture, and the support systems you have around you.

I had hope that Amy would been cleaned up and in better shape when I heard that she was preparing for a tour in Europe. But when I saw the clips of her in Belgrade, and how tragic she was, my heart sank. I knew she was not long for this earth, but her death was still a shock. I was angry that her management even allowed her get on stage in that condition. Money/greed was the primary concern, with absolutely no regard for her.

When the tour was canceled, and she went home, I wonder what took place then. Was the anyone there who cared enough to try to help her? Clearly she was in a serious crisis. Did she not have anybody around concerned enough to take some kind of measures, or have a plan? Still, the damage she had already inflicted on herself was bound to catch up with her sooner than later.

I hate that people ridicule and easily dismiss her(because of her drug habits), with absolutely no sense of empathy. Addiction is most often a symtom of other issues. It's not so black and white. and it doesn't matter what your status is in life -- rich or poor, intelect or lack there of. Certain people in certain circumtances are more vulnerable to it than others. By no means does it relect on the integrity of her soul or her immense artistic talent. The reality is: many people indulge moderately in recreational drugs/alcohol and lead healthy, balanced, successful lives. Humans have sought altered states of consciousness since the days of cave men. There is nothing inherantly wrong with that.

Amy was amazing singer and smart lyricist, with highly sophisticated musical references. It's so sad to that she couldn't push through beyond her demons. She's left us with small but precious body of work to cherish, yet her potential was so vast. We lost a great artist.
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I don't really get why people (especially on Facebook) are getting on their high horses about Norway. Is it not possible to be sad about both? Or are we supposed to just sweep Amy's death under the carpet because more people died somewhere else? In that case we shouldn't remember Elvis, or Michael Jackson, or Kurt Cobain, or Janis Joplin, or Jimi Hendrix, or Jim Morrison, or.... I could go on, all had a huge talent and threw it all away.
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PenguinHead and jay, very well said.

I can't pretend I was ever a huge fan, but I did always have a soft spot for her - there was no doubting she had a very special talent but was struggling with some very serious personal difficulties. Today, I've seen people dismiss her as a 'no-talent junkie' and 'no great loss to the world'. Really, more saddening than her death has been the sheer callousness of some people. If you have nothing nice to say and all that...
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I wasn't a huge fan but I did love her voice. Back to Black was a sublime album. Personally I wasn't shocked as such, just deeply saddened by the news. I've been saying that we've been watching her kill herself slowly for years and unfortunately, it's finally happened.

My thoughts are with her fans, family and friends at this awful time
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:31 AM
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I don't really get why people (especially on Facebook) are getting on their high horses about Norway. Is it not possible to be sad about both? Or are we supposed to just sweep Amy's death under the carpet because more people died somewhere else? In that case we shouldn't remember Elvis, or Michael Jackson, or Kurt Cobain, or Janis Joplin, or Jimi Hendrix, or Jim Morrison, or.... I could go on, all had a huge talent and threw it all away.
Apparently we are all supposed to be mourning people in Norway right now. You know what though, I can't mourn everyone who dies because, frankly, I don't have the hours in the day.

The other day I was watching a documentary about video footage that was being secretly sent out of North Korea. There was footage of a young woman who was scrounging for food, slowly starving to death (and she died a few days after the footage was shot). For some reason every time I shut my eyes at night I see her face. You know what, I don't think I can fit Norwegians in right now. It was sad it was a tragedy, and I'm appalled about it though, I'm not that callous.

I'm sad about Amy too, because I loved her music, she touched my life and brought pleasure to it. Hence, this is why I feel the loss of her death.
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I can't be sad about someone who hasn't influence my life in some way. Personally, it is heatbreaking to see someone die so young, but she wasn't willing to clean up and straighten up. How can I mourn someone who seemed like she wanted to die more than she wanted to live?
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Wonderwall, Monday, July 25, 2011, 8:00am (PDT)
By Jen Odell

Despite reports that Amy Winehouse may have been under the influence of alcohol and drugs before she was found dead on Saturday, police found neither drugs nor drug paraphernalia anywhere in her London home, according to People.

The body of the 27-year-old "Rehab" singer was discovered by a security guard around 4 p.m. on Saturday, at which time she may have been dead for six hours, the magazine reports.

Chris Goodman, a friend and spokesperson for Winehouse, later said that people close to her were still confused about the details of her death.

"She was in her bedroom after saying she wanted to sleep, and when he went to wake her he found she wasn't breathing," Goodman told TMZ. “He called the emergency services straight away. He was very shocked. At this stage no one knows how she died. She died alone in bed."

Winehouse had reportedly been under the care of a physician as recently as Friday, and was receiving regular check-ups due to her "fragile health."

"The doctor was happy with her condition," a source told British newspaper the Sun. "When he left on Friday night he had no concerns. Less than 24 hours later she was found dead."

An autopsy has been scheduled for Monday in London. If a toxicology test is conducted, the results could take weeks to be made public.

In the meantime, the singer's parents arrived outside her home Monday, where they stood by a fan-erected memorial shrine to mourn their loss.

"I can't tell you what this means to us. It really is making this a lot easier for us," her father, Mitch Winehouse, told Us Magazine upon seeing how many fans had flocked to his daughter's home. "We're devastated and I'm speechless, but thanks for coming."

An autopsy completed Monday has not been able to conclude what cause Winehouse to die. The police say that further toxicology tests are needed to establish a cause of death and should take two to four weeks to be processed.

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Heres another story.From Yahoo.Via AP.

http://news.yahoo.com/winehouse-auto...203742854.html

This is starting to remind me of my best friend.he's been dealing with drinking for a long time.I not really want to get that dreaded phone call from his family they will say that he's gone.
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I don't think Stevie ever had the extreme personality/mental issues that Amy Winehouse had. Stevie's addictions/problems were never at the levels that Amy's were. So many variables come in to play in these situations, with regard to nature/nuture, and the support systems you have around you.

I had hope that Amy would been cleaned up and in better shape when I heard that she was preparing for a tour in Europe. But when I saw the clips of her in Belgrade, and how tragic she was, my heart sank. I knew she was not long for this earth, but her death was still a shock. I was angry that her management even allowed her get on stage in that condition. Money/greed was the primary concern, with absolutely no regard for her.

When the tour was canceled, and she went home, I wonder what took place then. Was the anyone there who cared enough to try to help her? Clearly she was in a serious crisis. Did she not have anybody around concerned enough to take some kind of measures, or have a plan? Still, the damage she had already inflicted on herself was bound to catch up with her sooner than later.

I hate that people ridicule and easily dismiss her(because of her drug habits), with absolutely no sense of empathy. Addiction is most often a symtom of other issues. It's not so black and white. and it doesn't matter what your status is in life -- rich or poor, intelect or lack there of. Certain people in certain circumtances are more vulnerable to it than others. By no means does it relect on the integrity of her soul or her immense artistic talent. The reality is: many people indulge moderately in recreational drugs/alcohol and lead healthy, balanced, successful lives. Humans have sought altered states of consciousness since the days of cave men. There is nothing inherantly wrong with that.

Amy was amazing singer and smart lyricist, with highly sophisticated musical references. It's so sad to that she couldn't push through beyond her demons. She's left us with small but precious body of work to cherish, yet her potential was so vast. We lost a great artist.
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It probably goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway since there's such a backlash against Amy.... Sometimes I think people get down on celebrities with drug problems, particularly those who are inebriated in the public eye, because they are exposing the dark underbelly of human nature. Rather than accepting it for what it is, the celebrity is held to a higher standard, more like a role-model. So when the role-model exhibits negative, possibly influencing behavior, they get villified. It seems to be a more prevalent attitude these days than it did in the free-wheeling 60s and 70s. Even then there was a segment of society, who tended toward the more conservative, that decried the likes of celebrities who were known substance abusers, including Dean Martin.

Since I am a child of the free-wheeling 60s and 70s, I say... RIP Amy and thank you for your wonderful musical contribution. I loved her voice and her style of singing. Back to Black is one of my favorite albums. I truly hope she has found some peace and freedom from her demons. Yes, I said DEMONS.
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It probably goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway since there's such a backlash against Amy.... Sometimes I think people get down on celebrities with drug problems, particularly those who are inebriated in the public eye, because they are exposing the dark underbelly of human nature. Rather than accepting it for what it is, the celebrity is held to a higher standard, more like a role-model. So when the role-model exhibits negative, possibly influencing behavior, they get villified. It seems to be a more prevalent attitude these days than it did in the free-wheeling 60s and 70s. Even then there was a segment of society, who tended toward the more conservative, that decried the likes of celebrities who were known substance abusers, including Dean Martin.

Since I am a child of the free-wheeling 60s and 70s, I say... RIP Amy and thank you for your wonderful musical contribution. I loved her voice and her style of singing. Back to Black is one of my favorite albums. I truly hope she has found some peace and freedom from her demons. Yes, I said DEMONS.
So well said. Artists should never be held to the standards of role models. They aren't. Most artists are tortured souls in some way, using music or paint or another medium to express their turmoil. To hold them to some pristine standard of behavior is absurd.

Amy, I will miss you.
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