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Old 06-04-2012, 08:24 PM
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So how many cds sold so far??
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:39 AM
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I guess Stevie is in the same boat as her contemporaries, new material will sell in the low 100,000s. IYD, Lindsey's latest, Dave Stewart's Backbird Diaries, and so on. I think you can still make a minimal profit from that and still be creative. But is it enough for Stevie?
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I guess Stevie is in the same boat as her contemporaries, new material will sell in the low 100,000s. IYD, Lindsey's latest, Dave Stewart's Backbird Diaries, and so on. I think you can still make a minimal profit from that and still be creative. But is it enough for Stevie?
I doubt that Lindsey's or Dave's albums sold even close to that.Stevie is probably more in line with Bonnie Raitt or Heart these days.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:40 PM
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I guess Stevie is in the same boat as her contemporaries, new material will sell in the low 100,000s. IYD, Lindsey's latest, Dave Stewart's Backbird Diaries, and so on. I think you can still make a minimal profit from that and still be creative. But is it enough for Stevie?
There is no way Lindsey sold in the low 100 thousands. He'd be lucky if he sold 40K copies of SWS. Dave Stewart is probably more in the 20K range (if even that)

IYD sales have to be in the 150 -200K range at this point. Not exactly in the profitable column for Stevie (even though she saved some recording at her house) being on a major label. You have to remember Stevie has a lot more overhead than Lindsey or even Dave, the latter recorded the Blackbird Diaries in a week or so in Nashville. Where upon Stevie has expensive studio musicians, producers (let's also not forget Glen Ballard here) engineers & mixers (Chris Lord-Alge) etc. AND spent the course of a year recording, mixing and prepping IYD. She probably spent about a million to make the record, while receiving on average 1 dollar per copy sold. Reprise/Warner received any profit if there was any after marketing & manufacturing costs. Bottom line Stevie almost certainly lost money on the record, but recouped in touring. Sounds like a strong case for Stevie going the independent route!

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I heard Lindsey sold 8 copies of his most recent release...did another copy sell recently??? Just Kidding!!!!
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:48 PM
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So if Stevie lost $$ on IYD, is her solo career effectively over, except for a few casinos and Rod Stewart - type efforts now?
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So if Stevie lost $$ on IYD, is her solo career effectively over, except for a few casinos and Rod Stewart - type efforts now?
i'm sure she would be able to put out something on Mind Kit if she wanted to
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So if Stevie lost $$ on IYD, is her solo career effectively over, except for a few casinos and Rod Stewart - type efforts now?
I say no.She will continue.I think she should try something different then good ole rock and roll.I hope she does record the tribute album for her mom.I think she will do it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:02 PM
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its over, geez, call it what it is, im not offending any one or anything, im simply stating a opinion and the obvious. I swear if ud ask anyone at WB to praise a record that at best has moved 150 k, ur nuts. Nice comment about LB selling 8 copies, LOL. course, his solo stuff never sold, its the quality, course, its amazing to see all these excuses about IYD
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:15 PM
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I say no.She will continue.I think she should try something different then good ole rock and roll.I hope she does record the tribute album for her mom.I think she will do it.
or Buckingham Nicks will do it -

"When we spoke to Paphides, he confirmed that when he interviewed Nicks for the programme (in a section that was never broadcast), she had mentioned that Buckingham had been working on some new songs, seemingly with a view to record them together. He had been inspired to do so after the death of Nicks' mother, whom he had known since he and Nicks got together as teenagers. Nicks was apparently due to meet Buckingham the day after Paphides' interview took place. The interview, Paphides explained, was recorded by one of Nicks' staff, and when it was sent back to him that section had been deleted."
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So if Stevie lost $$ on IYD, is her solo career effectively over, except for a few casinos and Rod Stewart - type efforts now?
Surely you jest! I don't even know why I bother, but here goes...this year Stevie Nicks can still headline big amphitheaters like Jones Beach in NY, B of A Pavilion in Boston, and PNC Bank Arts Center in NJ, along with the lucrative casino outings and bigger theaters that want to book her. Stevie Nicks solo career will never be over as long as she is healthy and able to tour with or w/o a new release. She is an icon. Like it or not.

And regardless of whether or not she lost/made money on IYD, that's just one piece of a MUCH bigger picture! Stevie grossed anywhere from 13-16 million (conservative estimate) in 2011, between her IYD solo tour and 5 week Heart & Soul outing (raked in over 17 million alone according to Pollstar) add in royalties on catalog sales & spins. She worked hard last year & deserves to be laughing all the way to the bank. Besides her presence & promotions last year only heightened FM profile and catalog sales.

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or Buckingham Nicks will do it -

"When we spoke to Paphides, he confirmed that when he interviewed Nicks for the programme (in a section that was never broadcast), she had mentioned that Buckingham had been working on some new songs, seemingly with a view to record them together. He had been inspired to do so after the death of Nicks' mother, whom he had known since he and Nicks got together as teenagers. Nicks was apparently due to meet Buckingham the day after Paphides' interview took place. The interview, Paphides explained, was recorded by one of Nicks' staff, and when it was sent back to him that section had been deleted."
Wow.Yes .Thanks for that tidbit.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:32 PM
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Surely you jest! I don't even know why I bother, but here goes...this year Stevie Nicks can still headline big amphitheaters like Jones Beach in NY, B of A Pavilion in Boston, and PNC Bank Arts Center in NJ, along with the lucrative casino outings and bigger theaters that want to book her. Stevie Nicks solo career will never be over as long as she is healthy and able to tour with or w/o a new release. She is an icon. Like it or not.

And regardless of whether or not she lost/made money on IYD, that's just one piece of a MUCH bigger picture! Stevie grossed anywhere from 13-16 million (conservative estimate) in 2011, between her IYD solo tour and 5 week Heart & Soul outing (raked in over 17 million alone according to Pollstar) add in royalties on catalog sales & spins. She worked hard last year & deserves to be laughing all the way to the bank. Besides her presence & promotions last year only heightened FM profile and catalog sales.

Of course, you're correct - but remember there are those on The Ledge who are still pissed that at 64, Stevie can headline in amphitheaters with her solo work........ ..............When Lindsey releases a solo cd and it sells 15,000 units, it is because he's a "true artist" and he "doesn't care about commercial success"...When Stevie releases a cd and it ranks #6 on Billboard, it sells 200,000 and she fills amphitheaters - it means she is "pandering" and she should retire.
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Of course, you're correct - but remember there are those on The Ledge who are still pissed that at 64, Stevie can headline in amphitheaters with her solo work........ ..............When Lindsey releases a solo cd and it sells 15,000 units, it is because he's a "true artist" and he "doesn't care about commercial success"...When Stevie releases a cd and it ranks #6 on Billboard, it sells 200,000 and she fills amphitheaters - it means she is "pandering" and she should retire.
Last summer caught her show at Red Rocks, Bethel, Saratoga, PNC and Jones Beach and all venues were full. She still has her audience, always will.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:50 PM
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IYD. She probably spent over a million to make the record...
Where did you get that number?

She might have spent that much
on Scooby Snacks, but I highly
doubt she'd be crazy enough to
spend anywhere near that amount
on IYD.
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