"My Heart"

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by gold-dusted

Here's the Cover of the Safety Copy

Longer versions of I Miss You, Bombay Sapphire, and Fall From Grace?

This safety copy seems to date from late 2000, when it was still Bombay Sapphire before the added "s" at the end.

[gold-dusted]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Longer versions of I Miss You, Bombay Sapphire, and Fall From Grace?

Yes, this are longer versions

[nightbird28]

are the versions of FFG, IMU, and BS different from the original release? Are there extra words or different arrangements?

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by gold-dusted

Yes, this are longer versions

Could you please post them? I think some of us would love to hear the differences.

[gold-dusted]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Could you please post them? I think some of us would love to hear the differences.

No, I will not post them and I can tell you why. As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted. And even the people would tell me they won't do that I will not share these songs yet. The songs are the same as on the TISL release but just longer with some extra lyrics or arrangements. That's all!

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by gold-dusted

No, I will not post them and I can tell you why. As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted. And even the people would tell me they won't do that I will not share these songs yet. The songs are the same as on the TISL release but just longer with some extra lyrics or arrangements. That's all!

Fair enough.

Say, were you around when I posted the lyrics & clips for TISL five months prior to its release? If you ended up with the safety copy of the album, I'm going to guess you were.

Everything ends up on the Internet eventually. I've posted things to this board that have ended up on bootlegs on eBay (where I absolutely can say for certain that I was their source). Just because others profited off of my generosity doesn't mean I would have done it any differently- whenever I've had something to share that I could share (without getting anyone in trouble, etc.), I have.

[gold-dusted]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Fair enough.

Say, were you around when I posted the lyrics & clips for TISL five months prior to its release? If you ended up with the safety copy of the album, I'm going to guess you were.

No, to that time I was already sick with cancer and haven't been home very much. So I hadn't the chance to be on internet very often. (You can read this on my About Me page on my website....March '01). I got the Safety Copy two or three years LATER....AFTER the release of TISL. I've bought it from an estate sale of a former Stevie fan.

[GoldDustOrphan]

As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted.

The people who exploited your generosity are grotesque. Point me in the right direction so I can dispatch Small Town Sheriff Stevie to bust some knuckles (like she did in her '70s TV movies.)

[gold-dusted]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Everything ends up on the Internet eventually. I've posted things to this board that have ended up on bootlegs on eBay (where I absolutely can say for certain that I was their source). Just because others profited off of my generosity doesn't mean I would have done it any differently- whenever I've had something to share that I could share (without getting anyone in trouble, etc.), I have.

YOU can do what YOU want...this means not that I have to do the same! I've also posted many things for free and I'm a nice person. But it's also my good right to say NO. You're trying to place me in a bad light because I'm not willing to share the TISL Safety Copy songs.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by gold-dusted

YOU can do what YOU want...this means not that I have to do the same! I've also posted many things for free and I'm a nice person. But it's also my good right to say NO. You're trying to place me in a bad light because I'm not willing to share the TISL Safety Copy songs.

I'm not trying to place you in a bad light- its your prerogative, of course. If anything, I can empathize with you. I made a 30 second clip of an unreleased song, and people put the CLIP on bootlegs as an incentive to get people to buy it. How pissed off do you think that made me?

In the end, I made the decision that if I posted it, every informed fan would have it, and it would eventually be all over the place so that any fan could download it- which is exactly what happened. But, as I said- that was my decision, and you're not wrong for yours.

[gold-dusted]

Originally Posted by LukeA

I'm not trying to place you in a bad light- its your prerogative, of course. If anything, I can empathize with you. I made a 30 second clip of an unreleased song, and people put the CLIP on bootlegs as an incentive to get people to buy it. How pissed off do you think that made me?

In the end, I made the decision that if I posted it, every informed fan would have it, and it would eventually be all over the place so that any fan could download it- which is exactly what happened. But, as I said- that was my decision, and you're not wrong for yours.

Well, I just said that I'm not willing to share them YET...this means not I never will! I totally can understand how you were pissed off seeing the people trying to get money with something you've thrown out for free. This was the same with me with the "My Heart" song. I don't have the nerves anymore to be angry about the **** some people are doing...but if I would give out some more songs for free and I would notice that there are still the same ****ty people around who are trying to get money with it...it would make me angry again. The funny thing is that you know who the ****ty people are who are trying to make money with it *lol*

[starshine]

I'd like to know who the ****ty people are that are making the $$ off the stuff. This is sad & I do see both sides of the story.....Of course 'if' only this stuff would be released
"offically" than we wouldn't have to worry(Yeah like as 'if' that will happen?LOL).....heck of the many 'hundreds' of songs Stevie is 'suppose' to have written through the yrs like how many do we really have.....has anyone totaled it up. Now you can go Fmac songs of hers or solo songs.....first go the released versions....than of the released versions see how many have alternates/extended versions etc.....now how many truely unreleased songs do we really have?? Than of those unreleased songs how many have different versions or outtakes/or extended versions.....or the same song done in different yrs?? Really it doesn't add up to much considering 'HOW' much she's suppose to have written and locked in the valuets?? I do wonder....other than her actual journels that she gets her songs from.....I do really wonder how many songs are truely unreleased and NOT ever heard of before??? This is something to just ponder....does anyone wonder about this too??? IMO anyway.....I'd love to hear any thoughts in regards to this......
I do love the song 'My Heart' ...I think its one of her best songs ....unreleased songs that is........what a shame too......
Now when I say 'supposed' to have written cause well none of us really know except what Stevie has stated in various interviews over all these years.......so it really is hard to tell.....unless you've seen or heard them.....no offence just some thoughts......

[gldstwmn]

Thrown Down
http://www.mediafire.com/?cjtydqvjmoz

FFG
http://www.mediafire.com/?znucwmddmmn

I Miss You
http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjx42hflzl

Bombay Sapphires Alt
http://www.mediafire.com/?znsgmil9jzw

[jrpjr]

Originally Posted by gold-dusted

No, I will not post them and I can tell you why. As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted. And even the people would tell me they won't do that I will not share these songs yet. The songs are the same as on the TISL release but just longer with some extra lyrics or arrangements. That's all!

with all due respect...what right do you have to be angry over something YOU should not even own...HELLO?? they are all illegal bootlegs unless the artist themselves okay's the release. i have heard it from stevie herself..she thinks ALL the people who own as well as share "her " (i say her because she wrote them and owns them) unreleased music are "disgusting." i can understand why you won't post them, but don't say you have "thrown out 'My Heart' for free." and refer to the people as "****ty" when you have no right to own it anyway. that's like someone geting arrested for selling sugar to someone instead of cocaine. don't try to look like some do gooder when you are not .beleive me...i have plenty of stevie/fm as well as other groups bootlegs but i certainly don't feel i have the right to get angry at someone if they sell a copy of something that i should't have anyway. again...with all due respect ...you need to look at what you are saying here and probably not brag about all the bootlegs you do have ...just keep them to yourself. Oh and my the way i had asked you before about your pictures of stevie on your site...about blowing them up to be downloaded...you told me you won't allow this "because you have worked hard at geting them and people are stealing them from you." Again...did you take these pictures?? if not you don't own them..nobody can be stealing from you unless you in fact you "own" the object(s) you are referring to. It's a bit "twisted." P.S. This is not an angry response so PLEASE nobody get upset..it is just food for thought... if you in fact took the picture and own the copywrites to the music..then i appologize from the bottom of "My Heart." otherwise..........

[gold-dusted]

Originally Posted by jrpjr

with all due respect...what right do you have to be angry over something YOU should not even own...HELLO?? they are all illegal bootlegs unless the artist themselves okay's the release. i have heard it from stevie herself..she thinks ALL the people who own as well as share "her " (i say her because she wrote them and owns them) unreleased music are "disgusting." i can understand why you won't post them, but don't say you have "thrown out 'My Heart' for free." and refer to the people as "****ty" when you have no right to own it anyway. that's like someone geting arrested for selling sugar to someone instead of cocaine. don't try to look like some do gooder when you are not .beleive me...i have plenty of stevie/fm as well as other groups bootlegs but i certainly don't feel i have the right to get angry at someone if they sell a copy of something that i should't have anyway. again...with all due respect ...you need to look at what you are saying here and probably not brag about all the bootlegs you do have ...just keep them to yourself. Oh and my the way i had asked you before about your pictures of stevie on your site...about blowing them up to be downloaded...you told me you won't allow this "because you have worked hard at geting them and people are stealing them from you." Again...did you take these pictures?? if not you don't own them..nobody can be stealing from you unless you in fact you "own" the object(s) you are referring to. It's a bit "twisted." P.S. This is not an angry response so PLEASE nobody get upset..it is just food for thought... if you in fact took the picture and own the copywrites to the music..then i appologize from the bottom of "My Heart." otherwise..........

Well, I normally wouldn't answer to such an UNFRIENDLY message you've posted. But I want to state some clear things to YOU....about "MY" photos on my website....I NEVER ever said that I'm the owner of these photos or have taken the photos myself. But 70% of these photos on my website are ORIGINAL photos I've bought directly from the photographer or are original vintage prints I've bought at eBay. 30% of these photos were traded with some very nice Stevie fans (I'm NOT talking about you). Many of these photos can be viewed on my website only and nowhere else. I've paid a little fortune through the years of collecting to get them together for my personal collection. So you can't expect from me that I'm making high-resolutions of the photos for which I paid little money so that YOU GUY can download it for free and maybe making prints of these to sell at eBay??? And before you are opening your BIG MOUTH, maybe you should take a look at the website. Now there are photos available that can be downloaded in bigger size and this now for weeks.
And one note to the "****ty" people....I'm talking about the ones who are downloading rare songs to sell them for big money at eBay. Since you are freaking out about this...well, maybe it was YOU who did it???
And last but not least....think first and READ CAREFULLY before you complain!