How Bloody Ungratefull!!!!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

You aren't talking about the time she did Fall From Grace at the Blockbuster Awards are you? You can't be because that performance was one of the best I have ever seen her do! She SHREDDED that song! Plus it was the first time she ever played it live. I remember I was watching thinking that she would just do Gold Dust Woman or something, and then when it started and she was belting it out, I just stood there with my mouth open. I could kick myself too because I let someone borrow that tape and I never got it back!

And I think that was the positive influence of Sheryl getting her to do different things, like sing in her falsetto on Sorcerer.

[Cour]

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

I have to agree with you there. I thought FFG at the Blockbuster Awards was fantastic!

Ditto - fantastic is the only way to sum it up!

[Rickypt]

Why can't some people handle difference of opinion? Honestly, why do people start entire threads just because they don't like some postings.

Stevie's a big girl, and she's an artist. That means she should expect criticism and know how to handle it.

If she's going to go on record saying that this show is going to be something different and state specifically that it gives her an opportunity to find some old songs she's never done before....and then once again plays it safe, then are you really surprised that some people have a reaction?

And, Sable, I actually am not sure I mind if Stevie stops touring. I have been seeing her since I was 7 years and now that I'm pushing 40, I am questioning why I would want to spend lots of money and deal with annoying concert crowds to see this amazingly talented woman continue to play nearly the same stuff over and over and over.

No one should ever think they are a bigger fan because they refuse to find anything negative about Stevie.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

And this is the point: Stevie has alot of hits, but the deal is that she doesn't have to do them at EVERY SHOW. She has enough solo material that she can draw a line in the sand and do FM songs with FM and Stevie songs in her own solo shows. For a "retrospective, Vegas-style" show, yeah, then pull some more FM in, it's understandable. Look at all the gems others have suggested. Look at what she talked about, and then backed away from. With just a little tweeking, it could be phenomenal!!!

We want our girl to realize her potential and step out of her comfort zone just a little, teeny, tiny bit more...

Think of the irony. Vegas, a town built on gambling and this show couldn't play it any safer. Vegas isn't about being safe, it's about being over the top.

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Go see Neil Young then.

Geez.
I hope to got Stevie doesn't know anything about this website.

~Jamie

Stevie is a writer, so I am sure she is used to constructive criticizm. She seems like the kind of person who would respect people who told her the truth, and didn't just try to sugar coat everything just because she is a celebrity.
I'm going to the Thursday show, and I am thrilled to be able to get a mini vacation and attend a Stevie Nicks concert. Stevie did in fact hype up this experience to levels which it surely did not reach. It doesn't bother me that much because from day 1 she has always talked about things that never came to be, such as the Rhiannon Movie/Album, Solo World Tours, a boxed set that would "show Mick Fleetwood how a REAL boxed set should be done. I mean, I just take it all with a grain of salt and wait and see how it turns out.

[Rickypt]

I agree that Stevie's performance of FFG at Blockbuster was out of this world.

And the reason? Because she didn't play it safe. She was scheduled to sing Sorcerer that night and surprised us all with this song that most of us had never heard before. She reclaimed her rightful place as kickass rock-n-roll queen that night.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Neil Young just goes CRAZY with the set list changes. I don't think he does a same song more tehn 3-4 times a tour. And rarely is it ever filled with all the hits (Heart of Stone, Hey Hey My My, Cowgirl in the Sand, Soutehrn Man, Old man, Cineman Girl...) And he FILLS the set many times with songs that haven't even been released) I almost think he takes it TOO far. I wish Stevie and the mac would take elements of what Neil Young does.

His performances are among the best I have ever seen.

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Why can't some people handle difference of opinion? Honestly, why do people start entire threads just because they don't like some postings.

Stevie's a big girl, and she's an artist. That means she should expect criticism and know how to handle it.

If she's going to go on record saying that this show is going to be something different and state specifically that it gives her an opportunity to find some old songs she's never done before....and then once again plays it safe, then are you really surprised that some people have a reaction?

And, Sable, I actually am not sure I mind if Stevie stops touring. I have been seeing her since I was 7 years and now that I'm pushing 40, I am questioning why I would want to spend lots of money and deal with annoying concert crowds to see this amazingly talented woman continue to play nearly the same stuff over and over and over.

No one should ever think they are a bigger fan because they refuse to find anything negative about Stevie.

AMEN! I know people who love every note she has ever uttered and think I am awful because I don't! I mean, the woman could fart twinkle twinkle little star and they would petition for it to go platinum. Actually, that would be quite an accomplishment wouldn't it?

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Go see Neil Young then.

Geez.
I hope to got Stevie doesn't know anything about this website.

~Jamie

I think you take all of this way too seriously.

[Cour]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Go see Neil Young then.

Geez.
I hope to got Stevie doesn't know anything about this website.

~Jamie

As dissention would say - tough tacos, Jamie!

Stevie knows about the Penguin and The Ledge message board and if this place isn't good enough for her to know about, what the hell are you doing here trying to fit in? Trying to find a home now that Mick's site is a cemetery? FYI, all of the members of FM know and appreciate what this site is and what it does for the band.

The members of this site are proud of it and don't need you coming here and insulting this board and it's members. Stevie and Fleetwood Mac benefit greatly from this site and are not so thin skinned that they can't know about fan criticism.

Is anyone getting a bad deja vu like they've been down this road before with the people from Mick's site.

If you can't handle setlist criticism under these circumstances, I'd hate to see you when the opinions about songs and other things really get critical.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Just because people weren't there last night doesn't mean they're not going to be there later in the week.
If you paid big money for air, hotel and tickets and found out it's the same old same old after she has promoted it as unlike anything she has ever done before, wouldn't you be bummed?

No. And i'm one of those leaving on Thursday for the Friday show... I'm looking forward to it.. I've heard all the concerts in the past on cd or saw them on tape or dvd.. I know the sets, yet I'm still excited to check it out.

And it IS something she's never done before... when was the last time she played the Coliseum??

But I must admit... I would have thought the video screens would have been used to the full potential. But I'm thinking maybe taking old footage and converting into imax film wasn't worth it... too expensive... not enough time. I don't know the process for doing something like that, but maybe there were problems that couldn't be avoided. I would imagine it's a little more involved then slapping in a vid tape.

[David]

Originally Posted by sable

I think it is so very rude of everybody to bash the set list for the vegas shows! i think you should all count yourselves lucky that you got the opportunity to see her, no one forced you to pay all that money. Just think how gutted you would feel if she announced she was no longer gonna tour beacause all the fans were bitching her songs!!!!! i can see how you would be disapointed, but give her a break.

I think it's rude to call some people rude bashers & bloody ingrates & bitchers just because they post their opinions about Stevie's act last night. When is THAT going to end?

~~~~sable~~~~

I like your tildes.

[jkmaletic]

Sorry I joined your "group". I just get defensive where Stevie is concerned. And I didn't "run back over" to Mick's site to "trash" you guys, but yeah I did make the "angry jealous a-hole" comment there, cause that's the way it seems righ now.

Yes the FFG performance WAS form the Blockbuster thing rather than the RRHOF. My mistake. When I first saw her do that performance, I thought she was great. But then I just took a look at it again recently,(after seeing Stevie a dozen times since then) myself and my friend both looked at each other like, OMG she is SO nervous. He voice was shaky and everything. Watch it again if you have it on tape. Maybe you'll still disagree, but she just seemed nervous as hell to me. But I could be wrong. Everyone has their own opinion.

As far as insulting anyone here, I really didn't mean to. I was just reacting to the posts I was reading.

Sorry.

~Jamie ... I really am a nice person...

[David]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

I agree. People here are really unreal. I want to Stevie to sing WHATEVER SHE wants to sing and feels comfortable with. Has anyone ever seen tape of her performance at the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame with Sheryl Crow when she sang FFG? She was SO frickin' nervous she sounded terrible.

Well, that's really unreal. You've just "bashed" what I & many others consider one of Stevie's best performances in the last ten years.

Do you get my point?

Sure I'd love to see her do different stuff, but only if she wants to do it.

Well, I'd like to see her do different stuff even if she doesn't want to do it. So that must mean I'm an immoral ingrate.

"Bashing" seems to be the word that's used more than any other to indicate moral righteousness.

[catinthedark]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Why can't some people handle difference of opinion? Honestly, why do people start entire threads just because they don't like some postings.

Stevie's a big girl, and she's an artist. That means she should expect criticism and know how to handle it.

If she's going to go on record saying that this show is going to be something different and state specifically that it gives her an opportunity to find some old songs she's never done before....and then once again plays it safe, then are you really surprised that some people have a reaction?

....

No one should ever think they are a bigger fan because they refuse to find anything negative about Stevie.

SO well, put. Thank you.

Yes, I was disappointed to hear about the setlist. Was I angry? No. Jealous? (I still don't really get that accusation) No. Spoiled? Far from it. The reason I wasn't in Vegas was because I DON'T get everything I wish for on a silver platter. And $1000 for a trip to see my favourite artist wasn't in the cards for me. (No pun intended)

The reason for my disappointment, as has been expressed here by many, is that this Vegas showcase was built up (by Stevie herself) as something she had never done before - that there were giong to be lots of surprises, and that old songs would be pulled from the vaults. We are allowed to be disappointed that that did not happen.

Feelings are feelings, Jamie. You may not agree with how we are feeling, but you cannot tell us our feelings are wrong. They just are.

Am I going to stop being a fan of Stevie? Are you out of your mind??? I have loved her for as long as I've known her voice and her music. That will never end. And I will go to see her this summer, and I will love every minute of it. Dreams and Outside the Rain included. But would I love to hear... I don't know... Kind of Woman or Storms or Mistaken Love or Planets of the Universe or a half dozen other gems? You bet.