U.S. Festival 1983 Video

[Mageboy25]

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Stevie is a business, not a coffee club. They should have just called the RAL tour "The Stevie Nicks Comedy Hour". Im sure she was notified of her bad performances, and would rather continuing using than getting help. Honestly maybe the main part of the reason comes down to ear monitors? I dont think she was using them in the 80s? If she had been im sure her singing would of been better.

Yeah people are more emotional about Stevie bc Stevie is a more emotional performer herself. Any other artist can sway a crowd just as good as Stevie. Ive been to enough Madonna, Cher, Tina Turner, Pat, Heart, Blondie, Cyndi, Go Go's concerts to choke a horse besides Stevie/Fmac. Ive seen people swayed just as much as they would at any other show. You should have been in the pit of a Madonna concert last summer. When Madonna did Crazy For You for the 1st time since 1985, not only was the whole crowed swayed they all sang along. Its all apples and oranges, everyone is just as awesome in their own way. Stevie isnt the only almighty queen out there that can sway a crowd.

Its a shame that you are so anti pop music/Euro music. To each his own, im opened minded enough not to consider music trash just bc I dont like it.

P.S. I agree with you on the Lori thread though lol

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by Mageboy25

Stevie is a business, not a coffee club. They should have just called the RAL tour "The Stevie Nicks Comedy Hour". Im sure she was notified of her bad performances, and would rather continuing using than getting help. Honestly maybe the main part of the reason comes down to ear monitors? I dont think she was using them in the 80s? If she had been im sure her singing would of been better.

My entire point was that Stevie *is* a business. And you don't close a business because you have an off day, or even an off quarter. Nor do the employees/shareholders unionize to tell the boss what a crappy leader she is. I'm not arguing that the RAL shows were raw and not vocally perfect. What I am arguing is that most people who went to them didn't go there expecting that.

Besides, you're listening to a 20 year-old bootleg. You're missing the atmosphere -- the crowd noise, the reverb, the "thunder". And you're right --no ear monitors. I've typed out details about the Houston RAL show (opening night) on one of these threads. And if you think Stevie was F-U'd and unworthy in Dallas 2 nights later, you would have turned in your Frequent Chiffon Buyers card immediately after the Houston gig. But you know what? It was an AWESOME, EXCITING show.

Originally Posted by Mageboy25

Yeah people are more emotional about Stevie bc Stevie is a more emotional performer herself. Any other artist can sway a crowd just as good as Stevie. Ive been to enough Madonna, Cher, Tina Turner, Pat, Heart, Blondie, Cyndi, Go Go's concerts to choke a horse besides Stevie/Fmac. Ive seen people swayed just as much as they would at any other show. You should have been in the pit of a Madonna concert last summer. When Madonna did Crazy For You for the 1st time since 1985, not only was the whole crowed swayed they all sang along. Its all apples and oranges, everyone is just as awesome in their own way. Stevie isnt the only almighty queen out there that can sway a crowd.

Everyone knows Madonna doesn't sing in concert. Elton said so. So, I hope you enjoyed singing along to her tape. And when did you start listening to/attending Go-Go's shows? Because they all rivaled Stevie for the Coke Queen Crown in the early '80s (and worse - have you seen the Vh1 shows about them?). As for Heart and Pat, they were over by 81, before Stevie started her solo stuff and before they had their "comebacks" with all those awful Holly Knight songs. And Cher, Tina, and Madonna put on stage shows, not rock concerts. Apples and oranges, sure -- just that one of them is raw and peeled, and the other is covered in several layers of wax and polish and a fancy sticker to distract you.

Originally Posted by Mageboy25

Its a shame that you are so anti pop music/Euro music. To each his own, im opened minded enough not to consider music trash just bc I dont like it.

P.S. I agree with you on the Lori thread though lol

I never said that. "Eurotrash" was an identifier, not a judgment. I had a Duran Duran collection that threatened a hostile invasion of my Stevie collection's shelf space. I also went to concerts by Thompson Twins, Eurythmics, Adam & the Ants, Depeche Mode, Erasure, and Dead or Alive. Sadly, I missed Human League, so I didn't get to keep feeling "Fascination".

As for Jessica, I'm actually starting to wonder if she even wrote that answer, or how heavily edited or re-written it was before posting. It just doesn't read right. But I do hope she gets to throw some bitchin parties. The kids are supposed to give the parents/family hell, especially if the adults were hell-raisers themselves.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by Nixxxed

Everyone knows Madonna doesn't sing in concert. Elton said so.

Well, that's bull. I was right under her nose. Girl is singing.

[Mageboy25]

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Everyone knows Madonna doesn't sing in concert. Elton said so. So, I hope you enjoyed singing along to her tape. And when did you start listening to/attending Go-Go's shows? Because they all rivaled Stevie for the Coke Queen Crown in the early '80s (and worse - have you seen the Vh1 shows about them?). As for Heart and Pat, they were over by 81, before Stevie started her solo stuff and before they had their "comebacks" with all those awful Holly Knight songs. And Cher, Tina, and Madonna put on stage shows, not rock concerts.
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I cant believe im wasting my time on you. Madonna sang about 70/80% of her show live. Any idiot knows that Pat and Heart weren't finished by 81 lol. Speaking of US Festivals, Pat played there in 82 the night before Fleetwood Mac . The crowd was larger and louder for Pat. But I wonder how that could happen bc you said she was done by 81. I guess someone else continued to sell out arena's, sell millions of records and win all of the Grammy's. Tina is a rock show in my book, she has never lyp synced a note in concert ever.

Nixxxed you just make yourself look so stupid, its real easy to investigate common facts.

Yawnn yawnn yawnnn, your argument is such a waste of everyones time.

[strandinthewind]

With all due respect - not that you have shown any to anyone else with your flippant and smug "I know it all" attitude - I was on the front row for the Drowned World Tour and could hear her singing voice, which was most definitely NOT what was coming out of the speakers - personally, I think she had some sort of pro tools voice manipulation in her mic or on the sound board that made her on key. I saw and heard that with my own to eyes that night. I also heard it again the next night from the third row. Also, she most defintely was not singing for much of the dancing part of the concert.

I think Madonna is a GREAT entertainer, but she is no singer - in fact even she has said as much.

[Hawkeye]

Look MadgeBoy25, I don't know where to begin with you. You're critisizing the VERY BEST Stevie tour there was. The RAL album on the othe rhand is a different story, but that was the best tour. I LOVE the Dallas boot you say you'll never listent to again. Stevie was rambl;ing shouting random things, wasn't in sync witht he band at times, and I loved that. Let me guess, you probably enjoy that awful TISL tour.

[Mageboy25]

lol well I enjoyed TISL, however she sang one two many songs from that record for my taste.

Yeah I know Madonna uses that power tools thing, so does Cher, Shania Twain, and im sure many others.

I just watched one of Madonna's NYC shows from last summer again, and 70/80% of songs were sung live, or at least most of them.

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Well, that's bull. I was right under her nose. Girl is singing.

And here I expend all this effort to put the winkie right after the Madonna section, and everyone ignore its. See if I waste any more double-clicks on yous guyz.

Oh, and by the way -- .

By the way, Curtis, is her nosehair as thick as her pit hair in the 'SEX' book?

[Hawkeye]

And about this whole, who is rock debate. 97 Rock Buffalo's classic rock station doesn't play anything sung by women unless the woman singing is named Ann, Stevie, or pat. So Heart, Stevie Nicks and Pat Benetar are the only rock woman that get any airplay. And the #1 song is Baracuda with the close #2 being Edge of 17. This doesn't count her Fleetwood Mac stuff, and on that note Christine suprisingly is considered rock too with YMLF and World Turning. So Christine McVie is rock and Tina Turner is not.

[BTFLCHLD]

anyone else attend the mudfest?

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by Mageboy25

I cant believe im wasting my time on you.

My favorite scene from 'Grease':
Sandy: "Were you making fun of me, Riz? "
Rizzo: "Some people are so touchy! "

Madonna sang about 70/80% of her show live.

That would be a C or a B on her report card. No Honor Role for poor Maddie. And I'd seriously bet that it's more like 50/60%, which isn't even passing to the next grade level. But hey -- it's your money.

Originally Posted by Mageboy25

Any idiot knows that Pat and Heart weren't finished by 81 lol. Speaking of US Festivals, Pat played there in 82 the night before Fleetwood Mac . The crowd was larger and louder for Pat. But I wonder how that could happen bc you said she was done by 81. I guess someone else continued to sell out arena's, sell millions of records and win all of the Grammy's. Tina is a rock show in my book, she has never lyp synced a note in concert ever.

You're right - I screwed up the Pat and Heart issue. But we are talking about 20 years ago. And no, I didn't spend 3 hours searching for the correct facts. I usually save that for the (actually) important political fights on the Chit Chat forum. So spank me. I actually love both of them.

And I never said Tina lip-synched, just that she put on a stage show. You know - backup dancers, professional choreography, Tina flying around the audience on floaty platforms. And I think Tina rocks too.

Originally Posted by Mageboy25

Nixxxed you just make yourself look so stupid, its real easy to investigate common facts.

Yawnn yawnn yawnnn, your argument is such a waste of everyones time.

See the first response above. Fiesty 20-somethings are so sexy!

[Livia]

I love the US Festival performance - so many hilarious moments - when she's introducing the band and gets to Sharon - "She's yours, for $20,000!" The girl scout cookies, the quicksand, and "being as overly dramatic as I always am, I have to tell you that Mr. David Bowie is coming up next." What was so dramatic about that? I dunno, but it cracks me up every time.

[WildInTheWind]

I love the $20000 comment about Sharon. THat's great. It's also funny how she can't tell left from right!

~*~Becky~*~

[glitter_fades]

Originally Posted by Nixxxed

And I never said Tina lip-synched, just that she put on a stage show. You know - backup dancers, professional choreography, Tina flying around the audience on floaty platforms. And I think Tina rocks too.

I thought Tina did the choreography for her shows?

Yes, Tina put on a hellava show all the years she was older than Stevie while doing it and kickin her butt to boot!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by glitter_fades

I thought Tina did the choreography for her shows?

Yes, Tina put on a hellava show all the years she was older than Stevie while doing it and kickin her butt to boot!

I LOVE her - she exhausts the audience I am unsure if she choreographs the later extravagant productions - I think she probably had help as that is a whole lot of people to choreograph even for one as talented as she is. I do think that if she has a choreographer - he just works with what she wants to do on her stuff as I am sure choreographing her would be a little bit like trying to direct Robin Williams or Jim Carey