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Mad4stevie 01-25-2005 11:52 AM

U.S. Festival 1983 Video
 
Does anyone know if Stevie was still married when this video was shot? She has a ring on her left ringfinger. I thought this was after her divorce, though.

Also - how funny is the footage of Stevie going over to the side of the stage to see Mr. Unibrow, dressed all in white, who nearly pulls her off the stage. :lol:

And, Stevie mentions what "standing in a line" means after she does the song from her soon to be released album "White Heart". She says it means "standing in quicksand, and sinking". Now that is very different from her usual explanation of standing in a welfare line, don't you think?!

Lori Perry dances like Elaine from Seinfeld in this video! :lol: :lol:

I just received my dvd copy of this from Brian (much thanks, Brian!!!), and I am watching it for the first time.

WildInTheWind 01-25-2005 01:30 PM

This is one of my favorite videos. Stevie is hilarious in it, I love the girl scout cookie line :) I was so excited when I came across the upgraded version a couple of months back, my old one was awful. How Stil My Love is probably my favorite on this video.

~*~Becky~*~

joe 01-25-2005 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
How Stil My Love is probably my favorite on this video.

~*~Becky~*~


"that is my....i don't really know why...maybe cause my grandfather was a bar singer...but that is my FAVORITE song to do on stage........so of course i do it!"

gee, i haven't seen this concert too many times. it's one of my favorites of hers though. For the most part it's the Bella Donna show but just a bit more giddy.....and i wonder why???????? ;)

Moony 01-25-2005 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

Lori Perry dances like Elaine from Seinfeld in this video! :lol: :lol:

:eek:
I'm surprised to hear that...Sharon is usually the one who cannot dance. Check out the SNL clip of Stand Back for instance...Lori has some rhythm. :shrug:

estranged4life 01-25-2005 04:21 PM

Brian?? Brian who???
 
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Originally Posted by Mad4stevie
I just received my dvd copy of this from Brian (much thanks, Brian!!!), and I am watching it for the first time.

Hehehehehehe...

Mad4stevie 01-25-2005 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
Hehehehehehe...

Thanks mucho!!

My boyfriend was dreading the arrival of my stuff, he saw it in today's mail and said, "Well, I guess you aren't going to be getting anything done today!" :lol: HOW TRUE :)

Mad4stevie 01-25-2005 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Moony
:eek:
I'm surprised to hear that...Sharon is usually the one who cannot dance. Check out the SNL clip of Stand Back for instance...Lori has some rhythm. :shrug:

Oh, I am not saying that Sharon can dance . . . it was just Lori's leg movements that reminded me of Elaine's dance moves!

Mageboy25 01-25-2005 06:17 PM

Well gee I wonder why Lori has so much rhythm, can we say "SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFF".

God only knows how much coke they all did before this show. Stevie is wasted. I love how she messes up G&B. However this concert kicks ass. Esp the new better quality version floating around.

So since im on the subject. I recently got the 86 Dallas show. 1st off it should be illegal for Stevie to ever sing Leather & Lace and I cant wait live, I think I could have done a better job than her and I cant sing. Anyway she is TRASHED completely TRASHED in this 86 show, im sure most of you know. I wonder why not or if someone with common sense went to Stevie and told her how bad she sounds every night. How could her management let her go show after show sounding like crap for years?

Ann Wilson, Pat Benatar, Debbie Harry, etc all sound great in 90% of the bootlegs I hear them on. Stevie is another story. I think the Stevie/Fmac bootleg community should honestly rate every bootleg performance as we do with show recording qualtiy. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed listening to this Dallas show, but I doubt I will listen to it that much anymore. Once is enough when she sounds horrible beyond belief, messing up the words, coming in late, and the band didnt sound that tight either. So can anyone recomend a RAL show that she sounds ok in?

Thank you for the laughs Stevie :)

WildInTheWind 01-25-2005 06:28 PM

I enjoy the RAL shows, even though she sounds messed up. Cloaks and Daggers/Chicago is a good one. I like I can't Wait live personally. Leather and LAce though, should never be sung period! THat is probably my least fav of all of her songs. I can't Wait live though......love it!!!!!!

~*~Becky~*~

estranged4life 01-25-2005 06:58 PM

Well...
 
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Originally Posted by Mageboy25
I think the Stevie/Fmac bootleg community should honestly rate every bootleg performance as we do with show recording qualtiy. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed listening to this Dallas show, but I doubt I will listen to it that much anymore. Once is enough when she sounds horrible beyond belief, messing up the words, coming in late, and the band didnt sound that tight either. So can anyone recomend a RAL show that she sounds ok in?

I have considered doing that in the past...But gave up the idea since what I may like in performance may not be what someone else likes, So if I list a show as being great performance wise to my ears what happens when I trade that show to someone who is expecting a greatly performed show and are disappointed? So what I decided to do to avoid that problem by giving a combined grade of the sound-quality of the recording along with quality of the performance.

Here are the RAL shows (IMHO only) that have great performances along being solid quality recordings:

Live Unapproved (Live Australian Compilation "Rock A Little" Tour-This is a awesome professionally recorded compilation of live tracks from Stevie's 1986 Australian tour)

April 12,1986-Austin, TX
April 19,1986-Iowa City, IA
May 30,1986-Indianapolis, IN
May 31,1986-East Troy, WI
June 17,1986-Holmdel, NJ
June 21,1986-Chicago, IL-"Cloaks And Daggers"
July 14,1986-Mountain View, CA
July 21,1986-Kansas City, MO
Aug.20,1986-Morrison, CO-Red Rocks (Sourced from the video)
Sept.6,1986-Weedsport, NY (FM broadcast)
Sept.30,1986-Melbourne, Australia

WelshWitchPMD 01-25-2005 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
How Stil My Love is probably my favorite on this video.

~*~Becky~*~


Becky, that has always been my favorite, too. :nod:

David 01-25-2005 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mageboy25
So since im on the subject. I recently got the 86 Dallas show. 1st off it should be illegal for Stevie to ever sing Leather & Lace and I cant wait live, I think I could have done a better job than her and I cant sing. Anyway she is TRASHED completely TRASHED in this 86 show, im sure most of you know. I wonder why not or if someone with common sense went to Stevie and told her how bad she sounds every night. How could her management let her go show after show sounding like crap for years?

What does her management have to do with this? If Lindsey sounds bombed, does anyone ask why his management "let" him go on? When are Stevie's fans going to allow Stevie to be a full-fledged adult?
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I think the Stevie/Fmac bootleg community should honestly rate every bootleg performance as we do with show recording qualtiy. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed listening to this Dallas show, but I doubt I will listen to it that much anymore. Once is enough when she sounds horrible beyond belief, messing up the words, coming in late, and the band didnt sound that tight either?
The fans don't all think as one; some fans love Stevie in an altered state, & other fans hate her that way. Any sort of rating system would be completely subjective & not very reliable -- unless you happen to find fans who think exactly like you.
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So can anyone recomend a RAL show that she sounds ok in?
There wasn't any RAL show in which Stevie didn't mess up words, come in late, etc., at least part of the time. That was her thing, man. I'd stick with the Enchanted tour if I were you.

David 01-25-2005 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joe
For the most part it's the Bella Donna show but just a bit more giddy.....and i wonder why???????? ;)

She flew! She actually got the crowd to yell louder for her than Fleetwood Mac did at the same event the year before. I think some of that was because 1) she played Memorial Day weekend, when school was just about to let out (whereas Fleetwood Mac played Labor Day weekend, when school starts again) & 2) it was a lot hotter in 1982 than in 1983 at the US Festival.

Stevie even managed to play to twice as many people as Fleetwood Mac did -- although I think there were extenuating reasons for that, too. Fleetwood Mac headlined, & people were tired. Stevie "opened" for David Bowie, who hadn't toured for awhile & people were extremely excited to see him live.

The '83 US Fest was a lot more comfortable & better run, but the '82 US Fest had much better music & performances. The Grateful Dead were really cool.

Mageboy25 01-25-2005 07:44 PM

Was there no voice coach around in the 80s lol?

Nixxxed 01-25-2005 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mageboy25
So since im on the subject. I recently got the 86 Dallas show. 1st off it should be illegal for Stevie to ever sing Leather & Lace and I cant wait live, I think I could have done a better job than her and I cant sing. Anyway she is TRASHED completely TRASHED in this 86 show, im sure most of you know. I wonder why not or if someone with common sense went to Stevie and told her how bad she sounds every night. How could her management let her go show after show sounding like crap for years?

Ann Wilson, Pat Benatar, Debbie Harry, etc all sound great in 90% of the bootlegs I hear them on. Stevie is another story.

Why didn't they tell her? Because they love her, and doing what you say would be incredibly mean. And besides, do you really think she didn't know? She was high -- not deaf.

Go read/watch some old interviews from the time, and especially from TWH tour. Stevie admitted she was having problems (on and off stage), but what was she supposed to do? Pull a Xtina or Slutney and CANCEL THE TOUR? She would never have done that, because so so many people were depending on her (and yes, some leeching off her) to go out there every night and make the money. Not to mention the fans who were desperate to see her -- at the time, the last true rock-n-roll goddess still working as Eurotrash synth pop groups stole the airwaves.

Besides, had you been at the concerts in the 80s, you would understand that a great portion of the audience was just as f-u-c-k-ed up as Stevie was. It was just a different time -- people EXPECTED to see Wild Stevie twirling and stomping and screaming and generally being crazy, but yet having a fantastic time in the process. It was a Catch-22 in every sense.

And sure, Pat, Ann, and etc. may have given better performances *vocally*, but none of them have ever been able to sway a crowd *emotionally* like Stevie did/does. I've been to many concerts, and I have yet to experience anything like a Stevie/Mac show. People holding hands, hugging their friends, crying, dancing, laughing, screaming, even a few where the crowd was singing so loud along with their favorite song that you could barely even HEAR Stevie.

If I could go back in time and re-live one of those WH or RAL shows again, I would ... in a heartbeat. :nod:


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