Ended a ten year job ,Because of.Stevie...........

[Kena]

A few things...some of which others have already touched on.

Macfanforever- What holiday season starts in August? $10.50 an hour? Seriously? I worked at cracker barrel almost 10 years ago and made $10.00 an hour as a cook, flipping eggs and making the bacon.

I think you should get busy looking for another job ASAP and if your previous employer tells a potential employer that you quit because of Stevie...well then you can explain the other reasons. Also, 10 years on a job does show you've been a very loyal employee. I'd think that would stand out more than what you wanted to do on your vacation.

If all else fails, blame it on your wild heart. It's really not your fault anyways, it's just your wild wild heart

Good Luck!

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by markolas

I read an article not long ago that compared U.S. workers' yearly allotment of vacation time w/ those of other countries. Basically, we're one of the only industrialized nations where employers are not required by law to offer vacation time. Most countries in Europe mandate anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks a year.

Hmmm... and Europe is also (generally speaking) the home of double-digit chronic unemployment, a bloated and lazy entitlement class, a 15% value-added tax baked into the cost of everything sold and among the highest personal income tax rates in the world. Oh, and I'm sure that the debt crises in Portugal, Spain, Ireland and Greece are somehow related to generous entitlements combined with reduced per capita productivity. Look at Greece- where the whole country is about to go into bankruptcy, yet they are still rioting in the streets because they want to raise the retirement age above 53.

[KarmaContestant]

Reading this thread...

I am reminded again at how lucky I am to have a job right now. A good job, too, where I am paid well and allowed a generous amount of freeedom when it comes to scheduling. The benefits are good, too, and I have the option of multiple work locations (even from home when necessary).

That said...I have quit many jobs in my youth. Sometimes I just left without saying anything to anyone. One time I was on my way to work when I stopped at a pay phone and called them to say I wasn't ever coming back. One time I walked out in a flurry after telling my cocaine-addled boss to fu*k herself in front of customers and co-workers. Another time I wrote a resignation letter saying I was wasting my life, and that there was no point in being miserable for a paycheck. I still believe this, by the way - yes - money is important and necessary in our modern world, but later in life when you're old or dying, one of the worst things possible would be to look back and feel like you wasted your life doing something you hated, for someone you didn't even like only to feel unrewarded at the end of it all. You can never make up that time. You only get this one life. Make the most of it. No job is worth being unhappy for, and no job is worth looking back years later and feeling regret over, regardless of economic conditions.

However, sometimes we have to suck it up and compromise for a while. No job is worth quitting if you're going to end up homeless, or hungry, or sick. As an HIV+ man, I have stuck with a terrible job more than once just so I had medical coverage. After all, very few jobs are worth quitting if you're going to end up dead.

Anyway, MacFanForever, I wish you the best.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Bryan

I am so happy for you. I've seen this so many times before..those in "authority" dictating what days people can and can't take& vacations etc.It's all about them feeling powerful about 'owning' someone's time.The best thing to do is remove that from them.
Most people are scared to make that move so good for you!

Um, no. It's all about running a successful business/office/practice & making sure you have adequate staff to do so. Should I tell my patients "sorry, there aren't any doctors here to treat you, they all wanted the week after Christmas off so you're screwed." Please.

Originally Posted by Beachwood Mac

Nowhere in his initial post did he say he was leaving for any other reason besides not getting the time off to go see Stevie. His company has a policy that employees can't take vacation time between August 15th and December 20th. Yet, his boss DID give him 3 days off during that period. Sounds like the boss bent the rules for him.

I have interviewed hundreds of applicants for jobs. Odds are if you left your last job of 10 years because your boss wouldn't give you one additional day during a period when by company policy you couldn't take any days off you wouldn't be getting the job you applied for. How would he truthfully answer the question "Why did you leave your last job?"

Sorry you were so offended Jamie

I'm with you Terry.

Originally Posted by jannieC

I've had jobs that blocked out certain times for vacation. It's unfortunate that the Stevie shows you wanted to attend fell during that time. It sounds as though you don't really believe your job is actually gone; rather you are thinking that this move will open their eyes to your worth, etc. I hope it was a good decision for you, though I have to say I think it's a terribly risky move in this economical climate. I am working with some folks who have been unemployed for YEARS and would give just about anything for a paycheck. I see people really depressed due to their unemployment. Good luck to you.

Well said Jannie.

Originally Posted by markolas

I dare anybody to try to make me feel bad about any of the jobs I've quit, or the way I quit them.

What were the jobs & how did you quit them? Let's discuss.

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

However, sometimes we have to suck it up and compromise for a while. No job is worth quitting if you're going to end up homeless, or hungry, or sick. As an HIV+ man, I have stuck with a terrible job more than once just so I had medical coverage. After all, very few jobs are worth quitting if you're going to end up dead.
Anyway, MacFanForever, I wish you the best.

So true.



Macfan, your original post basically said that you quit cuz your boss wouldn't give you more time off to see Stevie. If that's true, it's really very immature & unprofessional of you. However, if there are other reasons (low pay, poor treatment, low moral at work) then maybe you should have stated them in the first place, instead of getting pissy with people for calling you out & thinking you made a silly/dumb move.

That said. Now you're going to be on unemployment, right? Not by necessity, but by choice. Even though you had a paying job. Well, have a nice paid vacation, courtesy of working taxpayers.

[camchristo]

^P, he won't be able to get unemployment, more than likely. Since he quit, and was not fired or laid off, he will not be able to collect unless he appeals, goes to a hearing and is able to prove that he left for valid reasons such as working under duress or being harrassed.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by camchristo

^P, he won't be able to get unemployment, more than likely. Since he quit, and was not fired or laid off, he will not be able to collect unless he appeals, goes to a hearing and is able to prove that he left for valid reasons such as working under duress or being harrassed.

See, that's what I always thought, but then I heard that if someone quits & the employer OK's it, that person might be able to get unemployment. Doesn't sound right to me - if you give up a job, you're out of luck, IMO.

If you can't get unemployment, Macfan, I take back my last statement. Hope you have a large savings account, or lots of belongings to sell on Craigslist. Good luck to you.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by skcin

That said. Now you're going to be on unemployment, right? Not by necessity, but by choice. Even though you had a paying job. Well, have a nice paid vacation, courtesy of working taxpayers.

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Brad

[skcin]

Depends on where you live

http://www.unemployment-tips.com/can-you-quit.html

[camchristo]

Originally Posted by skcin

Depends on where you live

http://www.unemployment-tips.com/can-you-quit.html

Yeah, it does depend. I had a friend here in Indiana who was laid off then accepted a new job within a few days. The new job was awful and she quit. I didn't think she would get unemployment but she documented the reasons why she quit and the employer did not contest and she got the benefits. Also, though, she was probably still under unemployment on the job she was laid off from because she only worked at the new job for a few weeks.

So, it does depend. I was just saying that Macfan should not count on getting unemployment. I don't know if his other reasons for quitting were compelling enough or not but quitting for Stevie most likely wouldn't win the day.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by skcin

Um, no. It's all about running a successful business/office/practice & making sure you have adequate staff to do so. Should I tell my patients "sorry, there aren't any doctors here to treat you, they all wanted the week after Christmas off so you're screwed." Please.

I was referring to when people can't reach a reasonable agreement on time off in some workplaces because the boss enjoys being difficult. Happens all the time with egomaniacs...

[Macfanforever]

Ok I do realize the first post was very vague with the full story.I probably was venting my frustrations out at the time without thinking.I apologize for that.Ok let me get down to the details of why this happen.Ok I worked at this firm about ten years.perfect attendence never sick.good work ethics.selfstarter.The place is a small warehouse with about 25 employees.Ok since we sell items to stores like Bed Bath and Beyond,Target and Amazon,The stores order goods early .like August.Ok at this time the xmas holiday season starts and it will go to mid december.The rules are to limit employees vac time to a couple of days a week or none in sept ,oct and november.Ok thats the company rules.The working conditions are probably average of any warehouse in this country.low pay scale as mentioned earlier .yes lower then Crackerbarrel.As noted earlier .LOL,crappy benefits package. Again the turnover of employees is very high.yes indeed.I was the bozo that hanged on all those years,Ok the last couple of years were getting hard putting up with some of the other co-workers and other personal details I cant get into at this time.Plus no yearly inflation wage increases. Ok trying getting time off for the Stevie upcoming concerts.I never had a problem with this employer or any other past employer to that matter.Yes I do understand the rules,I had scheduled monday .tuesday off.come to work wednesday.Thursday was scheduled to be off for the PNC, Holmdel show and friday I wanted off for a stayover in NJ.Ok they told me I cant take friday off because I could not take more then 3 days at a time off.But one day was really going to shorthanded him that week.Ok at that time I was pisted off and said thats it for working here.This was the straw that broke the camels back.
Yes as mentioned.I cant put a claim in at unemployment.I'm not planning on it.I understand that.Again I'm not quiting for this Stevie tour .sorry again please read closely and slow.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Hmmm... and Europe is also (generally speaking) the home of double-digit chronic unemployment, a bloated and lazy entitlement class, a 15% value-added tax baked into the cost of everything sold and among the highest personal income tax rates in the world.

Hello, Miss Rand.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by Bryan

I was referring to when people can't reach a reasonable agreement on time off in some workplaces because the boss enjoys being difficult. Happens all the time with egomaniacs...

Will I could send the damage control to mop things up in the next couple of days and reconsidering on talking to them about forget about the friday deal and I will stay at the job and patch things up and work the two days they want.I will work the two dam days half dead with a little sleep.in the meantime they will be happy and I will happy because I still have a job and also I got to see the concerts.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by camchristo

So, it does depend. I was just saying that Macfan should not count on getting unemployment. I don't know if his other reasons for quitting were compelling enough or not but quitting for Stevie most likely wouldn't win the day.

Oh I know, I wasn't disagreeing with you, just noting that it's possible.

Originally Posted by Bryan

I was referring to when people can't reach a reasonable agreement on time off in some workplaces because the boss enjoys being difficult. Happens all the time with egomaniacs...

You said you've seen this many times. Sounds like you've had some really sh*tty jobs & supervisors. That blows.

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Ok I do realize the first post was very vague with the full story.I probably was venting my frustrations out at the time without thinking.I apologize for that.Ok let me get down to the details of why this happen.Ok I worked at this firm about ten years.perfect attendence never sick.good work ethics.selfstarter.The place is a small warehouse with about 25 employees.Ok since we sell items to stores like Bed Bath and Beyond,Target and Amazon,The stores order goods early .like August.Ok at this time the xmas holiday season starts and it will go to mid december.The rules are to limit employees vac time to a couple of days a week or none in sept ,oct and november.Ok thats the company rules.The working conditions are probably average of any warehouse in this country.low pay scale as mentioned earlier .yes lower then Crackerbarrel.As noted earlier .LOL,crappy benefits package. Again the turnover of employees is very high.yes indeed.I was the bozo that hanged on all those years,Ok the last couple of years were getting hard putting up with some of the other co-workers and other personal details I cant get into at this time.Plus no yearly inflation wage increases. Ok trying getting time off for the Stevie upcoming concerts.I never had a problem with this employer or any other past employer to that matter.Yes I do understand the rules,I had scheduled monday .tuesday off.come to work wednesday.Thursday was scheduled to be off for the PNC, Holmdel show and friday I wanted off for a stayover in NJ.Ok they told me I cant take friday off because I could not take more then 3 days at a time off.But one day was really going to shorthanded him that week.Ok at that time I was pisted off and said thats it for working here.This was the straw that broke the camels back.
Yes as mentioned.I cant put a claim in at unemployment.I'm not planning on it.I understand that.Again I'm not quiting for this Stevie tour .sorry again please read closely and slow.

So you were mad that they wouldn't make an exception & bend the rules for you, which added onto the frustration you were already feeling about this job. Yes?

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Will I could send the damage control to mop things up in the next couple of days and reconsidering on talking to them about forget about the friday deal and I will stay at the job and patch things up and work the two days they want.I will work the two dam days half dead with a little sleep.in the meantime they will be happy and I will happy because I still have a job and also I got to see the concerts.

Good luck - hopefully they will take you back.



You know, just a thought. If you really don't like this job, why not search around for something different? I don't know about everywhere else, but $10.50/hr is about average for a warehouse position requiring no education or certifications. It's not a bad paying job, tbqh. If you want to make more, have you looked into trades training? Like machinist/factory work, construction, electric, plumbing, HVAC, computers, health care aide? IOr going to college to further your education & get a better paying career? I know that's not an option for everyone, I'm just curious about your situation.

[markolas]

Ya know, workers aren't indentured servants in this country. Anyone can quit a job for any reason. Why is it okay for an employer to just up and let an employee go when they decide he or she isn't working out, but if an employee decides the job isn't working out, that person is vilified for leaving? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, afaic.

As far as I know, unemployment insurance is paid for by the employer's payroll taxes - not the taxes of the general public. It's not welfare.