Stevie #6 Billboard Debut

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

Promotion hasn't stopped. There are new magazine articles landing every week (in the past ten days national glossy mags Nylon, Bazzaar, Jalouse, & More) gay glossy Next has her on the cover, a flood of on-line interviews; the Glamour event & red carpet shots will keep offering dividends;

BBC Radio just A-Listed "Secret Love," which means its going to receive the same amount spins as new singles by Adele and Coldplay on the top radio station in the U.K. B & C list songs receive lesser rotation.

http://www.eurythmics.me.uk/2011/06/...from-saturday/

Another single is coming. There will be a tour. She's outselling Aretha Franklin's new album - released the same day as IYD - 5 to 1. IYD has already outsold the last two efforts each from Pat Benatar, Heart, Tori Amos, Cyndi Lauper, Deborah Harry, Linda Ronstadt, Joan Jett, etc.

Lead editor on the documentary Shane McLafferty - he actually directed "Cheaper Than Free" and was lead editor on "Secret Love" - is juggling Dave's documentary and Stevie's, which is now being augmented by the Wiltern Show. The cancelled NY show was to be filmed for inclusion. It's cancellation threw off the schedule.

On the remix front, Tracy Young might just have some good news for me when I see her on Sunday. Her remixes of "Planets" and "Stand Back" appeared on the commercially released singles.

I love your optimism! Tracy Young remixes of any of the new material would be awesome.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

. She's outselling Aretha Franklin's new album - released the same day as IYD - 5 to 1. IYD has already outsold the last two efforts each from Pat Benatar, Heart, Tori Amos, Cyndi Lauper, Deborah Harry, Linda Ronstadt, Joan Jett, etc.
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I'll buy all of this except for Tori Amos.Her cult is at least as strong as Stevie's .She has not had a really good album since Scarlett's Walk but I think even her outright duds like The Beekeeper had strong debuts on Billboard.Do you have sales firgures to back this up?

[daniellaaarisen]

Me: @DaveStewart Morning Dave! Can we expect another In Your Dreams single to drop sometime soon?

Dave: @daniellaaarisen not sure but I do know it's FAB !

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

Promotion hasn't stopped. There are new magazine articles landing every week (in the past ten days national glossy mags Nylon, Bazzaar, Jalouse, & More) gay glossy Next has her on the cover, a flood of on-line interviews; the Glamour event & red carpet shots will keep offering dividends;

BBC Radio just A-Listed "Secret Love," which means its going to receive the same amount spins as new singles by Adele and Coldplay on the top radio station in the U.K. B & C list songs receive lesser rotation.

http://www.eurythmics.me.uk/2011/06/...from-saturday/

Another single is coming. There will be a tour. She's outselling Aretha Franklin's new album - released the same day as IYD - 5 to 1. IYD has already outsold the last two efforts each from Pat Benatar, Heart, Tori Amos, Cyndi Lauper, Deborah Harry, Linda Ronstadt, Joan Jett, etc.

Lead editor on the documentary Shane McLafferty - he actually directed "Cheaper Than Free" and was lead editor on "Secret Love" - is juggling Dave's documentary and Stevie's, which is now being augmented by the Wiltern Show. The cancelled NY show was to be filmed for inclusion. It's cancellation threw off the schedule.

On the remix front, Tracy Young might just have some good news for me when I see her on Sunday. Her remixes of "Planets" and "Stand Back" appeared on the commercially released singles.

Did they have to choose Secret Love as the first single over there too? Surely, they could of chosen a different single.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

Promotion hasn't stopped. Another single is coming. There will be a tour.

Really? What are they waiting for?

[skuncles]

There has got to be some reason for what is going on. The album was hyped, it came out and then NOTHING. Yes there are print interviews all over the place, but these were most likely all done right around the same time and are being spread out.
Stevie getting sick put the brakes on the whole New York, Today show thing, but that should have been just a bump in the road. At the start of the year Stevie had some doubts about heading out with Rod Stewart because of her own album/tour. I think most of us expected that as soon as the Rod tour ended she would "pack up her ribbons and bows and get back out on the road".
There has to be some reason to explain why the album is just seemingly being forgotten. Stevie has always toured for her albums, ALL of her albums, so I don't understand why this time around there's nothing. Even for "Street Angel" she made more appearences than is being done for IYD. Last August during her run of shows she said she'd be back next summer with a whole new album and new tour. So it seems as if she had every intention of going out. There has to be some major reason why everything is almost being abandoned. And no, it has nothing to do with the chart action of the album, she hated SA and still went thru the motions.

[cristochango]

I feel like possibly they are going to bank on promoting after the IYD doc is released, then start touring then... hopefully?

[GoldDustOrphan]

.Do you have sales firgures to back this up?

Tori Amos wishes she sold records like Stevie. It's probably why she recorded her own version of Landslide.
Tori does well as a touring act (3-4,000 capacity range), but she doesn't sell records anymore.

Current soundscan numbers, rounded up.

The Beekeeper (2005, 296,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #5)
American Doll Posse (2007, 152,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #5)
Abnormally Attracted to Sin (2009, 92,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #9)
Midwinter Graces (2009, 23,000 copies sold, highest Billboard Rank #66)
(A seasonal album, but it did have six or seven new Amos compositions)

Her next CD arrives in Sept on the Decca label.

From Billboard:
"Little Earthquakes" (1992; 1.9 million)
"Crucify" (EP) (1992; 420,000)
"Under the Pink" (1994; 1.4 million)
"Boys for Pele" (1996; 1 million)
"Hey Jupiter" (EP) (1996; 172,000)
"From the Choirgirl Hotel" (1998; 778,000)
"To Venus and Back" (1999; 458,000)
"Strange Little Girls" (2001; 395,000)
"Scarlet's Walk" (2002; 618,000)

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

Tori Amos wishes she sold records like Stevie. It's probably why she recorded her own version of Landslide.
Tori does well as a touring act (3-4,000 capacity range), but she doesn't sell records anymore.

Current soundscan numbers, rounded up.

The Beekeeper (2005, 296,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #5)
American Doll Posse (2007, 152,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #5)
Abnormally Attracted to Sin (2009, 92,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #9)
Midwinter Graces (2009, 23,000 copies sold, highest Billboard Rank #66)
(A seasonal album, but it did have six or seven new Amos compositions)

Her next CD arrives in Sept on the Decca label.

From Billboard:
"Little Earthquakes" (1992; 1.9 million)
"Crucify" (EP) (1992; 420,000)
"Under the Pink" (1994; 1.4 million)
"Boys for Pele" (1996; 1 million)
"Hey Jupiter" (EP) (1996; 172,000)
"From the Choirgirl Hotel" (1998; 778,000)
"To Venus and Back" (1999; 458,000)
"Strange Little Girls" (2001; 395,000)
"Scarlet's Walk" (2002; 618,000)

Ah I forgot all about her "Christmas " album that does validate your statement if you include it..I do know that Tori has or had a much bigger following in the UK. than Stevie ever did solo so maybe her Euro sales are what is helping her keep her record contract.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

Tori Amos wishes she sold records like Stevie. It's probably why she recorded her own version of Landslide.
Tori does well as a touring act (3-4,000 capacity range), but she doesn't sell records anymore.

Current soundscan numbers, rounded up.

The Beekeeper (2005, 296,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #5)
American Doll Posse (2007, 152,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #5)
Abnormally Attracted to Sin (2009, 92,000 copies, highest Billboard rank #9)
Midwinter Graces (2009, 23,000 copies sold, highest Billboard Rank #66)
(A seasonal album, but it did have six or seven new Amos compositions)

Her next CD arrives in Sept on the Decca label.

From Billboard:
"Little Earthquakes" (1992; 1.9 million)
"Crucify" (EP) (1992; 420,000)
"Under the Pink" (1994; 1.4 million)
"Boys for Pele" (1996; 1 million)
"Hey Jupiter" (EP) (1996; 172,000)
"From the Choirgirl Hotel" (1998; 778,000)j
"To Venus and Back" (1999; 458,000)
"Strange Little Girls" (2001; 395,000)
"Scarlet's Walk" (2002; 618,000)

In defence of Tori she's been much more prolific and thoughtful toward fans,with albums every 2 years,and many tracks included.Her sales are bound to become less with more and more output,the casual fans aren't going to buy every album.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Bryan

In defence of Tori she's been much more prolific and thoughtful toward fans,with albums every 2 years,and many tracks included.Her sales are bound to become less with more and more output,the casual fans aren't going to buy every album.

Agreed Tori has nutured her cult much more than Stevie ever has although recently Stevie has shown some signs of being more aware of us.The adorable greeting she taped for Night of !,000 being one.It may be dawning on her as the causual boomer audiences dwindle that we are who she has left.

[GoldDustOrphan]

I don't think Tori needs defending because no one's attacking. She's fantastic, even though the dedicated fans on her boards are so thrilled the quality of the past few albums and her alleged plastic surgery.

h I forgot all about her "Christmas " album that does validate your statement if you include it

I almost left that one out because it's limited sales period, but her two prior studio albums have sold 92,000 and 152,000, respectively.

I"m using the numbers to illustrate a point. I don't think people realize just how bad album sales are and how low the actual numbers are for Stevie's peer group. In the U.S., women over 40 are not played on Top 40 radio. Even Madonna had to have Justin Timberlake on her single to get played. Her last CD only sold 723,000 copies yet the accompanying tour is the highest grossing by a female artist ever.

[GoldDustOrphan]

Did they have to choose Secret Love as the first single over there too? Surely, they could of chosen a different single.

BBC 2 programmers chose the play Secret Love using the same mechanisms and indicators that tell them what their listeners what to hear. If it wasn't testing well with their listeners they wouldn't have bumped it up from C to B (where it was last week) to A, which is the highest rotation a song can have on BBC 2, the most listened to station in the U.K. It's in the same class with the new Adele and Coldplay singles.

[tabruns]

Another single is coming soon? Which song is it?

I don't think IYD is being forgotten at all. I think it's being nurtured along, the best it can be in this sales climate, with some really creative marketing moves (such as the Memorial Day push of "Soldier's Angel".....something else getting some attention for the album).

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

BBC 2 programmers chose the play Secret Love using the same mechanisms and indicators that tell them what their listeners what to hear. If it wasn't testing well with their listeners they wouldn't have bumped it up from C to B (where it was last week) to A, which is the highest rotation a song can have on BBC 2, the most listened to station in the U.K. It's in the same class with the new Adele and Coldplay singles.

I do not buy that all. Lots of my friends and family have heard the album and Secret Love is not any of their favorites. I highly doubt Secret Love was chosen by any special mechanics.